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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
October 05 2010 02:21 GMT
#2821
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...



I can get 3lts done by midday lol. Once you get to really love milk it's hard to let go .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 05 2010 02:23 GMT
#2822
On October 05 2010 11:20 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...


Get some lactase pills


Is this common or am I just lactose intolerant?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 05 2010 02:24 GMT
#2823
On October 05 2010 11:21 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...



I can get 3lts done by midday lol. Once you get to really love milk it's hard to let go .


It'd be funny walking around campus with a gallon-jug of milk lol

Right now I just buy litre cartons in the afternoons.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 05 2010 02:38 GMT
#2824
On October 05 2010 09:33 lowkontrast wrote:
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On October 04 2010 12:46 decafchicken wrote:
On October 04 2010 10:27 lowkontrast wrote:
16 years old here.
I'm 6'5" and 170lbs.
Used to be 210lbs but I lost some weight from wrestling.
Trying to gain muscle mass to about 190 lbs.
Right now I'm fairly skinny but do have a gut (though not visible through a shirt).
Taking 64 grams of protein after 45 minute workouts.
Diet's healthy - Kashi cereal in the morning, protein after my weight training classes, tuna/turkey sandwich from home for lunch. Soup when I get home, chicken for dinner.
Should I change anything?
What am I doing right to reach my goal (aiming for Summer to meet it)?
.


Eat a TON. You're almost half a foot taller than me and 30 pounds less! Lots of compound lifts and 4-5000 cals a day, you must be sooooo skinny.


Any advice on what to eat? I pretty much know what's healthy but not too sure on what really helps build a person up. All I know is that chicken has craploads of protein, but I can't eat chicken every day (just ate fish, actually).

*Edit* I haven't mentioned that I'm just starting.



Most people vastly overrate the impact of protein and badly underrate just getting in raw calories. To answer your question though, what lots of people have success with is eating whatever they normally eat + 1 gallon of whole milk every day. You're pretty much guaranteed to hit your protein requirements doing this and 1 gallon adds approximately 2400, making it quite easy to break 4k.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 02:48:04
October 05 2010 02:47 GMT
#2825
On October 05 2010 11:23 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 11:20 eshlow wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...


Get some lactase pills


Is this common or am I just lactose intolerant?


Most of the world is lac intolerant.

Gas = intolerant because you're not metabolizing it and the bacteria in your intestines are... hence the gas
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
October 05 2010 02:52 GMT
#2826
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...


When i was gaining weight i was drinking 3 cups a meal with 4-5x a day. pow pow. gas problems went away after being on a high protein diet for a while
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:17:26
October 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#2827
I had a small setback in my workout today, hoping Eshlow can help me out.

Today, when doing my warmup sets on squats, I got a sudden pain in my left knee at the lateral collateral ligament between the patella and the tibia. After that, I did my first set of squats at 110kg, and was able to push out all five, but after every squat when I stood up right, the same spot hurt. I tried my second set of squats, but after the 4th one I decided it was too risky to continue with this pain and just thought I'd repeat the weight in my next workout.

It's not bad pain, but it's certainly uncomfortable. When I'm sitting or standing it doesn't hurt at all, but making a pushing motion with my leg (riding a bicycle/standing up for example) makes it hurt.

It doesn't help that I haven't been able to have fish oil for a few days thanks to customs taking their sweet ass time processing my order -_-.

Any ideas?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 05 2010 12:30 GMT
#2828
Can you post a googled pic marked where it is?

Sounds like it could be IT band syndrome or patellofemoral.... do you have a foam roller you can use?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 12:57:20
October 05 2010 12:55 GMT
#2829
I'll do you one up and take a couple of pictures of my own white hairy knee.

Underwear and upper thighs censored out mostly for viewers.

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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 15:25:12
October 05 2010 15:24 GMT
#2830
delete plz
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 15:25:22
October 05 2010 15:24 GMT
#2831
sry, delete plz
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 21:18:47
October 05 2010 21:14 GMT
#2832
On October 05 2010 11:47 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 11:23 Cambium wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:20 eshlow wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...


Get some lactase pills


Is this common or am I just lactose intolerant?


Most of the world is lac intolerant.

Gas = intolerant because you're not metabolizing it and the bacteria in your intestines are... hence the gas

Oh so I guess I am lactose intolerant too . I'm like you Cambium. I didn't start off straight with gomad but half gallon a day and I didn't last a week because I had terrible stomach/gas problems. I never knew I was because I never really had a problem with milk or so I thought. I just realized its because I never drank more than 1-3 cups of milk a day. Will need to try out lactose pills next time I start gomad again.

Also eshlow can this problem also occur with grain/wheat too? I was always wondering if it was the milk during the time I was trying to lift hard that gave me the stomach problems or the school food I was eating which was mostly pasta. I thought maybe it was just my body getting used to the large amounts of food I was eating but it kept on continuing so had to stop.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
October 05 2010 21:36 GMT
#2833
On October 05 2010 09:09 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 09:03 Cambium wrote:
funkie, what's your weight and height? I just started doing SS after about a 5-month of vacation/recovery/drinking/etc., and our numbers are pretty similar.


I'm..

165cm height and
around 60kg-63kg weight?

You? I haven't weighted myself since I started SS and I'm like one month in, or something, sort of.

seriously? you're only 60-63kg? your numbers seem pretty crazy for someone who's only been on SS for a month. especially your 50kg press and the fact that you can already bench more than your bodyweight lol. props!
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11053 Posts
October 05 2010 23:44 GMT
#2834
Holy crap funkie. T___T You're beastly.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 06 2010 03:29 GMT
#2835
On October 06 2010 08:44 Sabu113 wrote:
Holy crap funkie. T___T You're beastly.


Yea funkie is pretty beastly, I thought he was around my size lol
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 03:35:14
October 06 2010 03:31 GMT
#2836
bah T_T,

Dunno, those are my real numbers, and I'm not even stalling, and I had to reset once due to some kind of injury (you can see all about it like 3-4 pages back or something ;P!)..

and I'm not even done yet, drinking my daily milk as we speak..Yeah man, milk's the shit.

Just weighted myself 65-66kg, but, I just ate a bunchload of crap. I'll weight myself in the morning and see what I get. will post tomorrow.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
earti
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-06 07:14:07
October 06 2010 07:10 GMT
#2837
On October 06 2010 06:14 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 11:47 eshlow wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:23 Cambium wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:20 eshlow wrote:
On October 05 2010 11:08 Cambium wrote:
Do you guys actually drink 1 gallon (3.8 litres) of milk a day? I can do half, max; I also get a little gassy if I drink too much milk. I don't think I'm lactose intolerant though...


Get some lactase pills


Is this common or am I just lactose intolerant?


Most of the world is lac intolerant.

Gas = intolerant because you're not metabolizing it and the bacteria in your intestines are... hence the gas

Oh so I guess I am lactose intolerant too . I'm like you Cambium. I didn't start off straight with gomad but half gallon a day and I didn't last a week because I had terrible stomach/gas problems. I never knew I was because I never really had a problem with milk or so I thought. I just realized its because I never drank more than 1-3 cups of milk a day. Will need to try out lactose pills next time I start gomad again.

Also eshlow can this problem also occur with grain/wheat too? I was always wondering if it was the milk during the time I was trying to lift hard that gave me the stomach problems or the school food I was eating which was mostly pasta. I thought maybe it was just my body getting used to the large amounts of food I was eating but it kept on continuing so had to stop.


I wouldn't say that you're lactose intolerent, but perhaps your body isn't capable or used to producing the enzymes needed to break down the lactose at the vasts amount of milk.

(rant about gomad, if you don't want to hear the truth, skip)
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And... I quickly read what gomad is... here's a food for thought: When they say "25lbs in 25 days just by doing squats and drinking a gallon of milk". How much is that weight muscle? Say you did gomad and saw that you did gain 25 pounds, but you don't seem to be as muscular before you started either. This is because the amount of weight you gained is mostly fat and water. When you want to gain weight, you want it in a form of lean mass. Think of it as increasing your body mass while reducing your body fact percentage.

There was an exclaimer that after doing the program you would have to start a weight training program to get rid of that fat... well, you could have just simply spent those 25 days actaully doing a weight training program than to "bulk up" 25 pounds, probably 24 of which is all fat and water, then have to work the rest off (and losing weight takes more effort than taking it in). During the way, you might get a bit muscular, but at the end, do you think would it been more time-efficient to actually had a workout routine now or 25 days after?

If you really want to simulate what happens after you do gomad, you can do two things: You can put on a 25lb vest/backpack/belt/etc on you to simulate the amount of mass that would be added when you do so, or, increase the amount of weight you're lifting. In the end, both ways will get you to your target, but it's all in the matter of which method will get you there faster.

Final thing: Our body is capable of producing 1 pound of muscle per week (doesn't mean we do, but we have the potential to). So, in one month, we could produce 4 pounds of lean muscle. Now for a method that gives you 25 pounds in one month, for sure not all of it is lean muscle.


And for the school food. I doubt that it would be the pasta (which is complex carbs) that is giving you stomach problems, but it's hard to say which food is specificlly the cause of giving you that in the first place, because it can be other items that you ate such as... milk. If you want to isolate the variables such that a given food is giving you problems; or perhaps when you work out prior to a meal is a factor. Of course this doesn't say not to drink milk, but there are lactose-free versions of milk if you might think you're lactose intolerent, or just drink less of it each day #if you body just can't produce enough enzymes to break it down#

Finally... If your body wants you to stop stuffing yourself with all that food and milk, it's REALLY telling you that. I don't get what's the deal with a 4k calorie diet. I don't think an average individual EATS that much either (they would have to be eating mcdonald's food everyday, let alone a normal diet). Unless you're one of those crazy-maniac athletes or military people who actually need the calories for their long training days, I'd let your body naturally tell you to eat. Protein perhaps? well, according to US and Canadian Dietary intake guidelines, you only need a whopping 56g of protein each day, and even a normal, cappy diet supplies more than 4 times the amount, and they took into consideration patients recovering from injury, expectant mothers, and athletes. Yes, once you start performing at an elite level #that 1% of 1%# yes, you do need some extra protein to recover, but it's only up to twice the amount, which is still more than enough protein that an average diet has.

Moral of the post: Most muscle gain and fat loss are done in the gym, not in the Kitchen
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 06 2010 07:37 GMT
#2838
What the funkie, you are strong T_T
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 06 2010 11:30 GMT
#2839
In the words of one of the trainers at my school, Canada's food guide is great, if you're an 80 year old obese woman
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
October 06 2010 13:00 GMT
#2840
On October 06 2010 16:37 Necosarius wrote:
What the funkie, you are strong T_T


Can't really believe you guys think I'm strong, I still feel a weakling. ;p.

I weighted myself this morning I'm 65-65.5kg which is wow for me, since last time I weighted myself I was 63 at tops. ;p.

Anyway, today is Squat, Bench press and Deadlift. Let's do this Mother!.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
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