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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 02 2010 20:00 GMT
#2781
On October 02 2010 16:19 unknown.sam wrote:
@eshlow: i have a shoulder problem. i got it when i was benching. it seems it's around the AC joint and the pain is greatest when the bar is on my chest. the same is true with push ups, the pain is greatest when my chest is closest to the floor..it's definitely an external pain cause it hurts when i apply pressure to it.

i rested it for a bit (maybe 10 days) and the pain did go away. but when the weights started getting a little heavier the pain came back so i had to stop benching...again

i can still do OHP and dips without any noticeable pain though. any idea as to what type of shoulder injury i have?


Nothing under AC joint? No traumatic injury?

I'd get that checked out with a doc. It sounds like could just be an AC sprain but yeah.. Could be other things wrong as well I'm not sure
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phynious
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1 Post
October 02 2010 22:03 GMT
#2782
Been trying to go to the gym every now and then but never actually got a routine going and now that im in school i haven't really had to chance to set something concrete, so looking forward to getting things into routine. Also haven't been eating the healthiest ( alot of bar snacks and foods ) going to try and eat more healthy. Hopefully now I can swing things around in my life.

Steve U
Age: 19|| Height: 6'0" || Weight: 230 pounds
Starting Date: 10/03/2010 || Goal Date: 10/07/2011
Weight goals -- [a lean 185 @ end date]
Training goals -- [First starting off with a lot of cardio then incorporate strength and endurance ( any training tips or knowledge is more than welcome ]
Nutrition goals -- [Eating a healthy balance of foods / starting a diet plan / no late night eating or energy drinks]
Misc goals -- [Hopefully run a marathon in the future and spend alot less time on the computer]
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 02 2010 22:09 GMT
#2783
On October 02 2010 21:13 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 22:04 eshlow wrote:
That looks pretty good to me.

Make sure your dressing isn't made with any processed seed oils though... go with olive oil or something along those lines. I love my Italian but it's like all canola seed oil or something... not so great. :\ I gotta find an alternative

I'd leave out the bran cereal and go with all oatmeal. Cereals in general are all pretty junky because of the processing etc


Thanks.

As for your comment about bran cereal, what I'll do is eat the oats as much as possible. The only problem with old fashioned oats is that they take some time to cook, and I am often times in a pretty big hurry in the morning.


I'm not sure about the difference between quick oats and rolled oats in terms of nutrition, but quick oats cook in minutes, so I try to eat that in the morning.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:22:36
October 02 2010 23:17 GMT
#2784
well...

concerning body, muscle or bone pain there are some things i figured out you may realize.

do your settup always as nice as it feels for you, thats common.

i have a challenge for you that suffer from bone, muscle and tendon problems, aka pain:
i predict:

1. you suffer self esteem problems focused on the area you do your work and solving problems, maybe at home getting something done or somewhere else. It is always the same, if you want something to happen, you can not do it right now, you learn what ever, you get a conflict exactly at the area the action is projected, like soccer would be the knees, tennis, elbow, computer, fingers, hand wrist and so on.
2. the pain will start if you solved the conflict. this has to do with biological and nature perfectionism. it will exactly stay as long as the starting conflict lasted until the solvation. this is the healing phase. this is the time you normally go to a doctor and get medicine. the time this is lasting is already predetermined. with or without medicine. after the healing phase you are healthy again. like you have been all the time. if you not decided to get poisened by a medicine stopping the natural healing process and get a chronical disease.


test this about yourself, if you get ill, has there been an intense event taking you of guard and you have to solve it alone? the moment of solvation is the starting point of the "illness" aka healing, the illness/healing will exactly match the period conflict was about.
(me:I am a alternative healer in germany, here are 2 ways to be allowed to handle patients:you are a medicine degree, or you are a heilpraktiker, what is healing practician in translation. only those are alowed to decide what to do to persons that got ill.)

non the less, next time f.e. you get a cough, check if something unexpected happened to you, and the time it started and the time you come ok with it and solve it, so you get the time how exactly long this will be. like time of conflict = time of healing (illness)
and the longer it gets the more dangerous it gets. making way up to cancer the most dangerous system because of it lengthe and complicated behavior.

(i really want to contribute, if you think i am not. delete. i am testing. if i am to far, i dont want to hurt.)
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 03 2010 01:10 GMT
#2785
On October 03 2010 00:14 Sinep wrote:
dunno about where you are Rosa, but in norway you can buy pre-lightly cooked oats, easily edible with just water if you want to


In Japan the vast majority of people don't even know what oatmeal is, so it was a miracle for me to find old fashioned oats here ... finding some other variety would be a fantasy.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 03 2010 02:08 GMT
#2786
Not even instant Quaker oats?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 03 2010 03:22 GMT
#2787
On October 03 2010 11:08 Disregard wrote:
Not even instant Quaker oats?


Well, I've seen instant oats, but aren't the old fashioned variety better?

Another personal reason for eating bran cereal sometimes is that eating oats makes me borderline gag at this point. I am really sick of shoving 150 grams of oatmeal down my throat every day, so if I can replace half of that with a bowl of bran cereal a few days a week, I think it would help me a lot.

Speaking of this, is there any way to make oats more palatable?
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 03 2010 03:32 GMT
#2788
On October 03 2010 11:08 Disregard wrote:
Not even instant Quaker oats?


Well, I've seen instant oats, but aren't the old fashioned variety better?

Another personal reason for eating bran cereal sometimes is that eating oats makes me borderline gag at this point. I am really sick of shoving 150 grams of oatmeal down my throat every day, so if I can replace half of that with a bowl of bran cereal a few days a week, I think it would help me a lot.

Speaking of this, is there any way to make oats more palatable?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 03 2010 03:36 GMT
#2789
On October 03 2010 12:22 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 11:08 Disregard wrote:
Not even instant Quaker oats?


Well, I've seen instant oats, but aren't the old fashioned variety better?

Another personal reason for eating bran cereal sometimes is that eating oats makes me borderline gag at this point. I am really sick of shoving 150 grams of oatmeal down my throat every day, so if I can replace half of that with a bowl of bran cereal a few days a week, I think it would help me a lot.

Speaking of this, is there any way to make oats more palatable?


a little butter a little maple syrup and just eat them

and i find instant oatmeal the easiest to eat
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
October 03 2010 04:15 GMT
#2790
i put raisins in my oatmeal, tastes awesome
aka DragOn[NaS]
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
October 03 2010 09:42 GMT
#2791
raisins are good, maple syrup is good, some jam is good (but probably not the healthiest choice) experiment and be creative. I have a recipe for breakfast that I use often
you take a bunch of oats, add a scoop of whey powder (any taste will do, i use the natural), add a teaspoon of honey, sprinkle a bunch of cinnamon, then add as many eggs as it takes to mix it all out (until nothing is dry anymore). then you can pour it into a pan and fry both sides on low heat shortly and voilla, you have a breakfast with a great macro nutrient ratio and you can consume a much larger quantity of oats like this, so ideal for gainers.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 03 2010 12:04 GMT
#2792
Any kind of fruit is usually a good choice
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 13:22:27
October 03 2010 13:19 GMT
#2793
On October 03 2010 18:42 Sinep wrote:
raisins are good, maple syrup is good, some jam is good (but probably not the healthiest choice) experiment and be creative. I have a recipe for breakfast that I use often
you take a bunch of oats, add a scoop of whey powder (any taste will do, i use the natural), add a teaspoon of honey, sprinkle a bunch of cinnamon, then add as many eggs as it takes to mix it all out (until nothing is dry anymore). then you can pour it into a pan and fry both sides on low heat shortly and voilla, you have a breakfast with a great macro nutrient ratio and you can consume a much larger quantity of oats like this, so ideal for gainers.


Sounds good. I like the raisins idea, and I currently do a small "fruit chaser" with my oats from time to time. Your recipe sounds good as well, but all of the whey I have is some chocolate flavor ... yeah. I'm not sure that would work out too well, although you say any flavor can work.

On a happy note, I'm pretty sure this 4000 calorie/day diet is working. I squatted 110kgx5 today, which was the most I've ever done for a set of five, and I did it ... pretty easily. I'm sure I could have done a couple of kilograms more for all three sets.

Going for 145kg on that squat, although it seems to be a ways off. May not hit that until I'm on Madcow's.
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
October 03 2010 18:00 GMT
#2794
On October 03 2010 22:19 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 18:42 Sinep wrote:
raisins are good, maple syrup is good, some jam is good (but probably not the healthiest choice) experiment and be creative. I have a recipe for breakfast that I use often
you take a bunch of oats, add a scoop of whey powder (any taste will do, i use the natural), add a teaspoon of honey, sprinkle a bunch of cinnamon, then add as many eggs as it takes to mix it all out (until nothing is dry anymore). then you can pour it into a pan and fry both sides on low heat shortly and voilla, you have a breakfast with a great macro nutrient ratio and you can consume a much larger quantity of oats like this, so ideal for gainers.


Sounds good. I like the raisins idea, and I currently do a small "fruit chaser" with my oats from time to time. Your recipe sounds good as well, but all of the whey I have is some chocolate flavor ... yeah. I'm not sure that would work out too well, although you say any flavor can work.

On a happy note, I'm pretty sure this 4000 calorie/day diet is working. I squatted 110kgx5 today, which was the most I've ever done for a set of five, and I did it ... pretty easily. I'm sure I could have done a couple of kilograms more for all three sets.

Going for 145kg on that squat, although it seems to be a ways off. May not hit that until I'm on Madcow's.


I forgot to add that I usually dice up an apple and throw it in there as well.

I've tried with whey chocolate, it goes quite well, you really don't taste it as long as you don't put too much in
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 18:43:53
October 03 2010 18:43 GMT
#2795
I am getting lower back pain again last week. I have been reading up on your articles eshlow. I told my coach and he told me to try to stiffen my bed i sleep on. Last night I put my mattress on the floor and slept, not sure if it did anything since I had some back pain when I woke up.

Ill buy some fish oil soon and massage my back. Probably need to do more core exercises too.

I have to figure out where the pain is. I will try to find it when I get the pain again.
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/#lb4 :D
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-03 20:49:21
October 03 2010 20:47 GMT
#2796
Just to say I had problems with warts for around 3-4 years which would never disappear no matter what I did. I would even try using a nail clipper to remove them but they came back. I finally went to the doctor this summer to get it checked. Why so long is because I always expected it to go away someday. I learned a lot about how I got it and about it like how most people get over it because their immune system fights it off. For me to have it that long just showed how weak my immune system was and overall health. Well the treatment was rather painful. Getting a lazer to sear the area and try to kill it off while using salcylic acid after. Had to do it once ever week. But no matter what it would always come back. To be honest I didn't even think it was getting better. Well I stopped the treatment. Recently about 3 weeks ago I ordered fish oil from the link eshlow posted. Not with the intention for warts but just to improve health. During those 3 weeks they have literally disappeared. Some not even a mark is left where they used to be. I used to have 3 on my fingers. 2 on left foot and about 6 on my right. Now I have none. Thank you. I don't know if its exactly the fish oil but its the only thing I really been doing differently.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 00:29:12
October 04 2010 00:24 GMT
#2797
On October 03 2010 10:10 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 00:14 Sinep wrote:
dunno about where you are Rosa, but in norway you can buy pre-lightly cooked oats, easily edible with just water if you want to


In Japan the vast majority of people don't even know what oatmeal is, so it was a miracle for me to find old fashioned oats here ... finding some other variety would be a fantasy.


This is what I learned from living in Tokyo, you can find almost anything, you just need to look. For most of the Western stuff, there's a large supermarket near Roppongi crossing that has more variety than any of the supermarkets I've too to in North America. Also, there's a costco outside of the city, and they most definitely carry this kind of stuff.

If you are not in Tokyo, just look harder.

Try 成城石井 (Seijou Ishii) if you see them around.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 01:28:39
October 04 2010 01:27 GMT
#2798
16 years old here.
I'm 6'5" and 170lbs.
Used to be 210lbs but I lost some weight from wrestling.
Trying to gain muscle mass to about 190 lbs.
Right now I'm fairly skinny but do have a gut (though not visible through a shirt).
Taking 64 grams of protein after 45 minute workouts.
Diet's healthy - Kashi cereal in the morning, protein after my weight training classes, tuna/turkey sandwich from home for lunch. Soup when I get home, chicken for dinner.
Should I change anything?
What am I doing right to reach my goal (aiming for Summer to meet it)?

On October 04 2010 05:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Just to say I had problems with warts for around 3-4 years which would never disappear no matter what I did. I would even try using a nail clipper to remove them but they came back. I finally went to the doctor this summer to get it checked. Why so long is because I always expected it to go away someday. I learned a lot about how I got it and about it like how most people get over it because their immune system fights it off. For me to have it that long just showed how weak my immune system was and overall health. Well the treatment was rather painful. Getting a lazer to sear the area and try to kill it off while using salcylic acid after. Had to do it once ever week. But no matter what it would always come back. To be honest I didn't even think it was getting better. Well I stopped the treatment. Recently about 3 weeks ago I ordered fish oil from the link eshlow posted. Not with the intention for warts but just to improve health. During those 3 weeks they have literally disappeared. Some not even a mark is left where they used to be. I used to have 3 on my fingers. 2 on left foot and about 6 on my right. Now I have none. Thank you. I don't know if its exactly the fish oil but its the only thing I really been doing differently.


Had a problem with a wart on my thumb a few years back. Had it for a 1-2 year period before it randomly disappeared, even though I was trying different things the entire time.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
October 04 2010 03:46 GMT
#2799
On October 04 2010 10:27 lowkontrast wrote:
16 years old here.
I'm 6'5" and 170lbs.
Used to be 210lbs but I lost some weight from wrestling.
Trying to gain muscle mass to about 190 lbs.
Right now I'm fairly skinny but do have a gut (though not visible through a shirt).
Taking 64 grams of protein after 45 minute workouts.
Diet's healthy - Kashi cereal in the morning, protein after my weight training classes, tuna/turkey sandwich from home for lunch. Soup when I get home, chicken for dinner.
Should I change anything?
What am I doing right to reach my goal (aiming for Summer to meet it)?
.


Eat a TON. You're almost half a foot taller than me and 30 pounds less! Lots of compound lifts and 4-5000 cals a day, you must be sooooo skinny.

Got back in the gym today with no intention to lift much...so i end up squatting heavy and maxing out bench with some pullups, shoulder press, and abs T_T

Kinda took it easy on the squats (didn't do my last set) still recovering from the absolutely ass kicking i got on saturday (64-7).
10x225 8x315 6x345 4x375 2x405
and then maxed out on bench at 255 (up 20 pounds in like 3 weeks? :D ) still a long way to go back to 295. And i felt like a total bitch next to the guy who repped 225x38. After board-pressing 425. damn.

Depending on how i feel tomorrow i'll either deadlift or hangclean.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 04 2010 03:46 GMT
#2800
On October 04 2010 05:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Just to say I had problems with warts for around 3-4 years which would never disappear no matter what I did. I would even try using a nail clipper to remove them but they came back. I finally went to the doctor this summer to get it checked. Why so long is because I always expected it to go away someday. I learned a lot about how I got it and about it like how most people get over it because their immune system fights it off. For me to have it that long just showed how weak my immune system was and overall health. Well the treatment was rather painful. Getting a lazer to sear the area and try to kill it off while using salcylic acid after. Had to do it once ever week. But no matter what it would always come back. To be honest I didn't even think it was getting better. Well I stopped the treatment. Recently about 3 weeks ago I ordered fish oil from the link eshlow posted. Not with the intention for warts but just to improve health. During those 3 weeks they have literally disappeared. Some not even a mark is left where they used to be. I used to have 3 on my fingers. 2 on left foot and about 6 on my right. Now I have none. Thank you. I don't know if its exactly the fish oil but its the only thing I really been doing differently.


Well, fish oil is anti-inflammatory so it you have problems with chronic inflammation yes it can hinder your immune system.

I would suggest cleaning up your diet though... that will likely help the most.

But that's great that fish oil has helped... it really does help most people.
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