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Dota 2 QQ thread - Page 1160
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Corgi Apocalypse
United States89 Posts
Late night is truly the worst time to attempt to play dota | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 09 2014 15:50 Belisarius wrote: The point you don't seem to be getting is that it doesn't matter how bad the void was. I'm sure he was terrible. That doesn't change the fact that passively leeching XP and contesting CS is a bad thing to do. Not passively leeching shit, what a dumb assumption because I hit a couple of creeps. Some of you are just taking out your issues with bad supports on me and filling a picture you associate with this one thing with a bunch of other bad behaviors. And sadly this void was a far bit higher than 1k, he was just garbage and an asshole. SS: 1) Slow 2) Short-range 3) Extremely squishy 4) Level six is very important to team 5) Able to save carry from aggression only if near 6) Able to harass at early levels only from safe angles 7) Good at 5 and 6 but only if positioned correctly 8) Correct position relates to 1, 2, 3 9) See 4 Seriously do any of you play this hero? He's really popular so this amount of apparent ignorance blows my mind. I've seen him played just like I play him at all levels. Stop making assumptions about what I am or am not doing based on the fact that I hit a couple of creeps. I also saved the carry multiple times, set him up for three or four kills (he only got one of them because he couldn't be bothered to pay attention and react like a normal human), kept the lane in his direction, harassed and zoned and rebuffed ganks. How about you all go write your QQ about supports you've actually played with instead of the one you think I am. Guy was rude to everyone for the whole game while having an actually negative impact on our winning prospects - dominating the jungle and feeding almost 2x as much gold as he earned through kills. 50 minutes of this guy having a shit attitude but I hit a couple of creeps he missed and I'm the asshole. You guys have issues. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On September 09 2014 18:46 nojok wrote: I'm fine with contesting last hits if the carry sucks at last htting. Sometimes you come into the game, you're not used to the hero animation and miss some last hits, the supports taking some with 15 less base damage hurts pride a bit and allow me to focus more. I don't want to bear with the shame of my team knowing the support last hits better than me so I don't say anything. I know it works on many other guys too. You see him missing last hits on 1st and 2nd waves, contest on 3 and 4 and suddenly he last hits way better. Don't do it with supports like ogre or treant, that's just very BM. Had a treant with Quelling blade in my lanes a few nights ago. That was super fun since he went for every last hit. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On September 09 2014 20:03 unkkz wrote: Had a treant with Quelling blade in my lanes a few nights ago. That was super fun since he went for every last hit. Were you also playing luna? Creep under 200 hp! Time to last hit xD | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 09 2014 18:46 nojok wrote: I'm fine with contesting last hits if the carry sucks at last htting. Sometimes you come into the game, you're not used to the hero animation and miss some last hits, the supports taking some with 15 less base damage hurts pride a bit and allow me to focus more. I don't want to bear with the shame of my team knowing the support last hits better than me so I don't say anything. I know it works on many other guys too. You see him missing last hits on 1st and 2nd waves, contest on 3 and 4 and suddenly he last hits way better. Don't do it with supports like ogre or treant, that's just very BM. Depends on the hero and the person. I mean if you're having trouble LHing with Sven then, unless you're being harrassed to hell and back, there's an issue. But on the other hand I REALLY don't appreciate it when I play...say...Clinkz and I have a Treant going for the hits too from the first wave. Especially with that awful animation Clinkz has. Hell I've had people competing for last hits when I play Meepo before today, with his glorious 39-45 base damage at level 1. First couple of levels are murder (until you get the second Meepo); it becomes a pain and very distracting if you're trying to build a rhythm to it. QQ: Last night had a game against a team which included Nature's Prophet and Weaver. Totally unkillable split-pushing. And just for bonus fun they ALSO had Undying making it damn near impossible to go highground if we got a pickoff. Won the game out of sheer bulk on our carries after 50 minutes of running around cutting off their pushes but it was honestly like pulling teeth. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 09 2014 17:00 FHDH wrote: Not passively leeching shit, what a dumb assumption because I hit a couple of creeps. Some of you are just taking out your issues with bad supports on me and filling a picture you associate with this one thing with a bunch of other bad behaviors. And sadly this void was a far bit higher than 1k, he was just garbage and an asshole. SS: 1) Slow 2) Short-range 3) Extremely squishy 4) Level six is very important to team 5) Able to save carry from aggression only if near 6) Able to harass at early levels only from safe angles 7) Good at 5 and 6 but only if positioned correctly 8) Correct position relates to 1, 2, 3 9) See 4 Seriously do any of you play this hero? He's really popular so this amount of apparent ignorance blows my mind. I've seen him played just like I play him at all levels. Stop making assumptions about what I am or am not doing based on the fact that I hit a couple of creeps. I also saved the carry multiple times, set him up for three or four kills (he only got one of them because he couldn't be bothered to pay attention and react like a normal human), kept the lane in his direction, harassed and zoned and rebuffed ganks. How about you all go write your QQ about supports you've actually played with instead of the one you think I am. Guy was rude to everyone for the whole game while having an actually negative impact on our winning prospects - dominating the jungle and feeding almost 2x as much gold as he earned through kills. 50 minutes of this guy having a shit attitude but I hit a couple of creeps he missed and I'm the asshole. You guys have issues. An important skill in dota is to make the call very early that a player is going to be worthless all game, never come to fights and never look at their mini map. After that, you just need to play your heart out and do whatever you can to make up for their last luster play. Even if its getting alittle passive XP to get the ball rolling as a support or buying flying courier as a core. If the clown was as bad as you say, you likely made the right call by getting yourself a little bit of an edge and then going HAM. Though I do try very hard not to antagonize shitty players because it just makes them play like more shit. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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GGitsJack
New Zealand426 Posts
Anyways, I have like a 6 streak going on my item, pretty proud, last game for the night, easy game should be a textbook pubstomp to finish off the night. Then pub 2stack wd + dp decide to feed first blood 0:2 each. That's fine I carry shitcunts all the time no problem, then they decide to abandon straight after leaving us 3v5. Tried to hold off for a while but ended up being futile. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking gay. Match ID for reference: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/885454665 Sad life. | ||
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HellNino
France156 Posts
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On September 09 2014 17:00 FHDH wrote: Not passively leeching shit, what a dumb assumption because I hit a couple of creeps. Some of you are just taking out your issues with bad supports on me and filling a picture you associate with this one thing with a bunch of other bad behaviors. And sadly this void was a far bit higher than 1k, he was just garbage and an asshole. SS: 1) Slow 2) Short-range 3) Extremely squishy 4) Level six is very important to team 5) Able to save carry from aggression only if near 6) Able to harass at early levels only from safe angles 7) Good at 5 and 6 but only if positioned correctly 8) Correct position relates to 1, 2, 3 9) See 4 Seriously do any of you play this hero? He's really popular so this amount of apparent ignorance blows my mind. I've seen him played just like I play him at all levels. Stop making assumptions about what I am or am not doing based on the fact that I hit a couple of creeps. I also saved the carry multiple times, set him up for three or four kills (he only got one of them because he couldn't be bothered to pay attention and react like a normal human), kept the lane in his direction, harassed and zoned and rebuffed ganks. How about you all go write your QQ about supports you've actually played with instead of the one you think I am. Guy was rude to everyone for the whole game while having an actually negative impact on our winning prospects - dominating the jungle and feeding almost 2x as much gold as he earned through kills. 50 minutes of this guy having a shit attitude but I hit a couple of creeps he missed and I'm the asshole. You guys have issues. why don't you just post the replay and put the whole thing to bed? | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
Final game was looking to be the same way, played bristleback offlane with my friend on phoenix, dp feeds zeus mid hard and jugg-visage lane feeds Earthspirit-timber lane, plus my friend dies once against AM-SD. That game was gearing up to be just as awful, zeus was 6 levels ahead of the rest of our team and our juggs first meaningful item was his 24 minute battlefury. Visage made phoenix solo support, and said some shit among the lines of "Well now that your complaining about support im not going to." Ok dude, I'm sure at minute 16 we were gonna see you buy the first set of wards, no doubt. Only reason we won that game was a bunch of really questionable suicides out of the timber after his bloodstone, offlane was able to bully AM pretty well and slow him down, and (chiefly) their ES abandoning. Why did Valve make it so once you move your computer to a different city your MMR gets reset to 0? I can't think of any other explanation for why I can count the fun games I've had since I've moved on one hand | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On September 09 2014 15:21 FHDH wrote: OK lol enough. Plenty of shit happening during laning phase you weren't there for and you think on Rhasta I'm just off sticking my dick in light sockets all day waiting for Void to get his untarnished experience points with my physical presence never within 1200 units of the carry. Sorry dude but this is utterly ridiculous. He was trash and I played a great game and we lost. Fuck off with your "you contributed to the loss." [Edit] Just checked the log and Void was fifth in hero damage on our team despite highest GPM due to all the space we gave him (sure wasn't from kills). He actually ended with the most CS in the game, that is how much space we made for him. Can't believe I still have to talk about this goddamned game because I got a couple of last hits, literally two by ten minutes. Bunch of people who probably never play SS telling me what I should have been doing in a game they didn't see. I like how you straight up don't have a response to my 2nd point, so you ignore it. I'll reiterate that IT DOESNT MATTER that you didn't actually get the last hits, just the fact that you were throwing projectiles was throwing him off his game / making him tilt. Again, sure, from your description, void was probably a horrible player. Congrats, you made him a horrible and also angry at YOU player. Would he possibly have gotten angry at you for something stupid that's not even your fault? Maybe, I don't know, I didn't play with the void. But it sounds like you did something that, while it should be meaningless in ideal happyland where all carries are perfect cs-ing robots, made him upset. Sure, the void was probably an asshole and a terrible player, but it sounds like you (unintentionally) antagonized him. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
why don't you just post the replay and put the whole thing to bed? Pointless. People would realize they are lecturing me about something so actually trivial they wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't say anything, then find some other shit to compensate. @xxpack09, you're still blaming me for the Void's performance, you're wrong, creating circumstances that didn't exist, and I'm done talking about it. Maybe calling your supports (yes both of us) idiots in the first five minutes of the game when you've had freefarm and kills puts them on tilt and contributes to the loss. Maybe unicorns shit in gopher holes, What a dumb discussion. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
Oh this is racist blah blah blah, fuck it. The truth must be told. user was warned for this post | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
Someone so bad blames others for a loss? it is really interesting how delusional people are. | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On September 10 2014 10:21 FHDH wrote: Pointless. People would realize they are lecturing me about something so actually trivial they wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't say anything, then find some other shit to compensate. @xxpack09, you're still blaming me for the Void's performance, you're wrong, creating circumstances that didn't exist, and I'm done talking about it. Maybe calling your supports (yes both of us) idiots in the first five minutes of the game when you've had freefarm and kills puts them on tilt and contributes to the loss. Maybe unicorns shit in gopher holes, What a dumb discussion. Idk man, refusing to post the replay makes me think you know you're in the wrong and just don't want people to see. I could be wrong though. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2723 Posts
On September 10 2014 14:17 Deathmanbob wrote: Idk man, refusing to post the replay makes me think you know you're in the wrong and just don't want people to see. I could be wrong though. More probably anyone with a vendetta against him is just going to use the replay to vindicate their claims against him, almost regardless of what the replay contains. Everyone else won't give a shit, because this is the dota 2 qq thread, not the dota 2 "help me not be a shitlord" thread. In his situation, I wouldn't post the replay either. On some level, everyone that reads this thread will assume that anyone posting complaints about teammates is one of "those guys" that we've run into in our own games.... The guy that's irrational and overly critical even though his own performance is mediocre at best. Truth is, likely every single one of us has been that guy to someone else, though we won't realize it at the time, because at the time what we're gently advising our teammate on seems like exactly that - gentle, reasonable advice. @EnumaAvalon, Below That's frustratingly not helpful. There's no amount of positive attitude that is going to make that void not terrible in either gameplay or manner. Of course, I'm projecting my own experiences on to FHDH's situation, but if your argument for what you "learn from that" is to become a stoic wall of kindness then you're some kind of fucking robot, and not an actual person. If your safelane carry is playing the most annoyng hero in the game POORLY and then calling YOU shit for it, and your response is to A) tilt a bit and B) post in the QQ thread about it, then I'd say that's a perfectly human response. Is the "right thing to do" in terms of human kindness and peace to turn the other cheek? I'd debate that. There is merit to internalizing your issues and not just dumping them on the nearest available human being, but there's also merit to not accepting the shit of total strangers, doubly so when they're unjustified in delivering it. Don't get me wrong; there are enough assholes on the internet already, and I certainly don't promote being one... but sometimes you have shitty games and need to vent about it, and when you do so and people act like you're not venting, but looking to solve the problem of your void being shit, it's not helpful, and just frustrating. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On September 10 2014 10:21 FHDH wrote: Pointless. People would realize they are lecturing me about something so actually trivial they wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't say anything, then find some other shit to compensate. @xxpack09, you're still blaming me for the Void's performance, you're wrong, creating circumstances that didn't exist, and I'm done talking about it. Maybe calling your supports (yes both of us) idiots in the first five minutes of the game when you've had freefarm and kills puts them on tilt and contributes to the loss. Maybe unicorns shit in gopher holes, What a dumb discussion. Let's cool down a bit here. Look, no one is saying that void dude was good and what he did was okay but people did point out that what you did was also a wee bit wrong. If you can't accept that, move on. If you can, learn from it. Simple. Also, screw void instapickers! | ||
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