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crimsonSoldier
Profile Joined August 2013
147 Posts
September 08 2014 09:32 GMT
#23161
The new Pudge bot is terrible. Goes mid with salve, circlet and gauntlet lol.
My Name is Legion, is Abaddon, is Lucifer, eater of souls.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
September 08 2014 10:45 GMT
#23162
Am I the only one who prefers having techies on my team as compared to pudge? Fuck everything about pudge
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 10:59:38
September 08 2014 10:59 GMT
#23163
so our 1-7 dp just flamed our 1-7 rhasta for not pushing towers. nice
FTD
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 08 2014 11:06 GMT
#23164
So I haven't posted here in fucking ages, but I have to vent

Furion, you are the worst player I have ever fucking seen, please just put a bullet through your fucking head and you'll do the world more good than anything you'll accomplish in the rest of your life

WHO TEH FUCK buys a rapeir when we've raxed 2 lanes and are 100% certain to win the game, only to lose it and completely throw the game, dumb fucking mongoloid piece of shit
wrathofanima
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 11:36:09
September 08 2014 11:33 GMT
#23165
Normal all-pick. Playing with a 4 stack. 4 randoms. Fucking sigh, really? What a waste of a game.

Really should find a group to play with regularly to avoid this kind of bullcrap.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 13:25:21
September 08 2014 13:21 GMT
#23166
On September 08 2014 20:33 wrathofanima wrote:
Normal all-pick. Playing with a 4 stack. 4 randoms. Fucking sigh, really? What a waste of a game.

Really should find a group to play with regularly to avoid this kind of bullcrap.


I've had four individuals on a team random before, but...ouch. I understand if some of the people wanted to random and others didn't, but that four stack should have just queued for all random.

As for my QQ, massive numbers of dcs waiting for people to load. It was bad Saturday, even worse Sunday. Took me nearly 30 minutes from the time I first queued up until I started playing my first game.

On September 08 2014 20:06 Canas wrote:
WHO TEH FUCK buys a rapeir when we've raxed 2 lanes and are 100% certain to win the game, only to lose it and completely throw the game, dumb fucking mongoloid piece of shit


One word: ego. Saturday, I barely managed to talk a PA and Alchemist in two different games out of buying rapier in this same situation. Both told me they wanted to flaunt the rapier or to experience the "awesomeness" of having a Rapier.

"No it's NOT awesome losing 25 MMR because of a rapier's awesomeness."
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 14:01:06
September 08 2014 13:34 GMT
#23167
Doom just makes me sad.

If there's one on the other team he straight up destroys my team.

If there's one on my team he goes Vanguard first and afk farms.

If I pick him I get forced into the jungle every time, then either get ganked over and over (and then flamed for having no items) or my team manages to lose every lane in five minutes flat.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
HellNino
Profile Joined September 2011
France156 Posts
September 08 2014 15:15 GMT
#23168
THE COMBO: Aghs 1st windranger and MoM invoker.
How am I supposed to practice with allies like these...
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 08 2014 15:20 GMT
#23169
Luna with Dom-Helm demands that supports stack for her. We ask why she can't use a creep. Replies "I'm busy watching the mini-map and focusing on last hitting".

She is in our jungle.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
September 08 2014 15:56 GMT
#23170
On September 09 2014 00:20 Plansix wrote:
Luna with Dom-Helm demands that supports stack for her. We ask why she can't use a creep. Replies "I'm busy watching the mini-map and focusing on last hitting".

She is in our jungle.


In all fairness, she should of just domed a creep and then giving control to the supports. I know its a shit job but really the carry should be running around maxing farm. Sure they should be in a position every minute to stack one camp while they are farming but its still better if the supports are stacking ancients/other camps while the carry is doing its thing. But if she didn't dom a creep for the supports to use than she was being stupid
No Artosis, you are robin
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 16:19:30
September 08 2014 16:19 GMT
#23171
On September 09 2014 00:56 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 00:20 Plansix wrote:
Luna with Dom-Helm demands that supports stack for her. We ask why she can't use a creep. Replies "I'm busy watching the mini-map and focusing on last hitting".

She is in our jungle.


In all fairness, she should of just domed a creep and then giving control to the supports. I know its a shit job but really the carry should be running around maxing farm. Sure they should be in a position every minute to stack one camp while they are farming but its still better if the supports are stacking ancients/other camps while the carry is doing its thing. But if she didn't dom a creep for the supports to use than she was being stupid

She didn't do shit, she just blamed the supports for not stacking and that is why we lost. Not the 4 kills she gave up in lane because she was just bad and kept dying. She still had brown boots during these complaints after building an aquila and Dom as well. Shared unit control was beyond her abilities.

The best part was when someone called her out on dying 4 times in lane, her response was "yeah, but I stopped." because she hid in the jungle for the rest of the match.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
September 08 2014 16:19 GMT
#23172
On September 09 2014 00:56 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 00:20 Plansix wrote:
Luna with Dom-Helm demands that supports stack for her. We ask why she can't use a creep. Replies "I'm busy watching the mini-map and focusing on last hitting".

She is in our jungle.


In all fairness, she should of just domed a creep and then giving control to the supports. I know its a shit job but really the carry should be running around maxing farm. Sure they should be in a position every minute to stack one camp while they are farming but its still better if the supports are stacking ancients/other camps while the carry is doing its thing. But if she didn't dom a creep for the supports to use than she was being stupid


Agreed. Supports with Apm can stack 2 camps at once with the creep and it is really cool

Yesterday I saw a puck going veil first, fuck blink right?
Next item? Aghs

3k mmr... Fuck this
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 22:01:36
September 08 2014 22:01 GMT
#23173
First guy randoms : he gets PL, our last two picks are spectre mid and meepo who comes with me offlane. Long story short : we lost all lanes they stomped us hard. I could deal with it as it was an expected outcome, managed to do some stuff. Go next.

We have safelane nyx and lycan against earthspirit, he gets the dual kill at level 6, our DP mid trades farm with their zeus who do some smart rotation to get some kills. We lose on offlane. They're heavily leading on the scoreboard (31 to 15) but we are winning. It just felt stupid, just because they could not protect their T1s against lycan, he managed to sneak rosh so all those objectives + DP farm means we are winning despite them playing better overall. This win felt so dirty and more stupid than my previous game...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 03:45:45
September 08 2014 23:48 GMT
#23174
I want to know, Valve. I want to know why you think it's fucking ok to put individuals in with four-stacks in ANY PLAY MODE. Here is what they do: regardless of competence they don't fucking communicate with their fifth or pay attention to their pick they just do whatever. If they suck it is completely hopeless. They're always on Skype because using in-game comms is overrated. And furthermore, HOW THE FUCK do I get a four-stack that DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. ONE GUY on the team in this last game managed an English sentence, it was something about how I had not accomplished anything so how dare I question their performance. Because that's how Dota works. You can feed and let the whole map collapse and if the one guy who isn't in your group hasn't rampaged the opposite team he has no place to speak.

[Different game different rant] I am so sick of people saying you lost the lane if one-on-one you didn't kill the other guy. Always gotta be finger-pointing at the end of a match. I Jugg against AM, he has NP jumping in for the occasional gank-attempt which I dodge every time, my teammates never come down to attempt a gank, we are roughly even on farm (in fact I am ahead in levels at least) and when I leave lane to help and can't fight anyone because my teammates have fed it's "hey don't take offlane solo if you can't get anything done" how about...don't lose your lanes and feed the other team and then blame me because I'm not as strong as they are and I can't actually solo down AM who has a built-in fucking blink if he's losing and if not takes away my tiny pissant mana pool and then asks his buddy The Rat King to finish me off. And it's always guys who are grouped who are convinced that they played great and it is YOU, YOU SIR who have lost us this game. Fuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuu

Best part of exchange "We asked if you were fine bot" - I was fine. I didn't die once and I got great farm. Fuck you and fuck your stack, fuck your buddy, fuck your overestimation of your play.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 09 2014 06:05 GMT
#23175
On September 08 2014 01:22 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 21:30 Belisarius wrote:
On September 07 2014 13:53 FHDH wrote:
On September 07 2014 13:48 idonthinksobro wrote:
On September 07 2014 06:57 FHDH wrote:
Ranked game. We have Void on our side and a decent lineup otherwise, I am on Rhasta so feel pretty good about this win. First sign of trouble is when Void calls me idiot for "not letting him farm" when anyone with a brain could see my projectiles coming out after he should have hit, so only taking cs he would have missed anyway. Then calling Jakiro an idiot for not getting the perfect icepath in a chaotic fight in dire safelane (we almost killed two but they both escaped; Void was also super-slow on reaction to gank situations repeatedly).

But I really knew it was trouble when he went 6/8 despite us going out to an early four-tower lead, him having tons of space, and yet somehow being unable to press "R" in even the most obvious situations, including ones where a teammate was getting jumped a whole 1000 units away right outside our base. Naturally he was calling all of us idiots and useless until we had to mute him.

Useless Void.

[Edit] Have lost EVERY game with Techies on team so far but from watching Wagamama play it's clear this hero is actually pretty legit. Not sure which is worse, to be honest: Techies being so bad people stop picking them (does that happen?) or being a legit hero that looks like a lot of fun but takes too much game sense to make work. Probably the latter.


don't do this ever, not only is it confusing as fuck and puts the other player in the mindset that he has to compete for last hits which is unnecessary pressure but there is also more useful stuff you could do around the map while not taking the carrys exp, such as stacking camps, pulling or ganking. Leeching exp for a fast 6 on rhasta should not come at the expense of your carry, there will be other opportunitys to get exp.

Trust me I was where I needed to be and there was nothing confusing about what I was doing, he was just an idiot who kept missing cs. Happened a total of like three or four times too.


No, dude. Do not compete with your carry for lasthits and then complain that he can't cs.

Second time you've QQ'd about something that is 100% you being an ass. I'm hoping you don't show up in my games.

I was in no way competing with him. And you're focusing on one part of my post and not the part where we gave him tons of space and he sucked all fucking game including watching teammates die and feeding and refusing to use his ult, the whole reason he's there. God damn carries cry a fucking lot. When I'm playing one I can tell the difference between someone competing with me for last hits (does happen) and backing up CS with late projectiles. I am a reasonable fucking person so if it's the latter I won't complain at all.

Let me put it this way since you're determined I'm in the wrong here: in the small handful of times I shot at a creep usually it was *already dead* (not to the void) by the time projectile landed, that is how late I was attacking. I think I actually got 1-2 cs in 3-5 shots over a few minutes, and got called an idiot by a terrible fucking player for my trouble. Then I helped the rest of the team get out to a four tower lead in which Void participated almost not at all, which would have been fine by everyone if he, you know, carried. But we couldn't finish because he didn't, and while he was terrible he kept up the same calling everyone idiots and useless that he was when I shot at dead creeps. But yes I'm the ass.

Hey what was the other time I was an ass? The terrible Techies player who wouldn't support, went to lane, died, and then sat in the fountain for the rest of the game?


1) You have ZERO business standing in the lane in the first place. You should be doing some combination of zoning the offlaner, ganking, pulling, and stacking jungle camps. You should literally NEVER ever be standing next to your carry clicking creeps unless you're pushing the tower. You're just jacking void's xp, actively inhibiting his performance.

2) By sending projectiles you are only going to make your carry player start tilting since you're putting pressure on him to cs ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY which, guess what? No one can cs completely perfectly--even pros miss plenty of cs. He's now going to play even worse because you're putting pressure and stress on him and if you two start arguing in the chat, it puts pressure and stress on your entire team because of the conflict. Bad team morale loses games, especially in pubs between random players not in the same stack.

Honestly, while I'm sure the void wasn't a great player, you actively made the situation worse for your team and contributed to your team's loss.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 06:36:33
September 09 2014 06:21 GMT
#23176
You have ZERO business standing in the lane in the first place.

OK lol enough. Plenty of shit happening during laning phase you weren't there for and you think on Rhasta I'm just off sticking my dick in light sockets all day waiting for Void to get his untarnished experience points with my physical presence never within 1200 units of the carry. Sorry dude but this is utterly ridiculous.

He was trash and I played a great game and we lost. Fuck off with your "you contributed to the loss."

[Edit] Just checked the log and Void was fifth in hero damage on our team despite highest GPM due to all the space we gave him (sure wasn't from kills). He actually ended with the most CS in the game, that is how much space we made for him. Can't believe I still have to talk about this goddamned game because I got a couple of last hits, literally two by ten minutes. Bunch of people who probably never play SS telling me what I should have been doing in a game they didn't see.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 06:22:39
September 09 2014 06:22 GMT
#23177
On September 09 2014 15:05 xxpack09 wrote:
1) You have ZERO business standing in the lane in the first place. You should be doing some combination of zoning the offlaner, ganking, pulling, and stacking jungle camps. You should literally NEVER ever be standing next to your carry clicking creeps unless you're pushing the tower. You're just jacking void's xp, actively inhibiting his performance.


Even if you deem denying by a support to be non-legit, he may well have been harassing or responding to pressure at the time, or simply passing through. So NEVER is too strong.

Of course, that's assuming he's on your side of the trench. On this side, if the carry has demonstrated he is totally incapable of last hitting (which happens), it's absolutely the support's job to salvage some gold from the lane.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
September 09 2014 06:50 GMT
#23178
The point you don't seem to be getting is that it doesn't matter how bad the void was. I'm sure he was terrible.

That doesn't change the fact that passively leeching XP and contesting CS is a bad thing to do.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 07:07:51
September 09 2014 07:06 GMT
#23179
It does indeed matter how bad the void was.

But perhaps you've never seen games from the 1k bracket where the lane's designated farmer doesn't even try for most of the last hits. Take my word for it - there is a level that's so low, supports stealing last hits is a good thing because it means someone's getting the farm.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 09 2014 07:07 GMT
#23180
Who needs farm when you only need S&Y
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