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Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
May 08 2014 20:31 GMT
#1361
On May 09 2014 05:14 Firebolt145 wrote:
But Force Staffing someone into LSA looks far more impressive than Euls -> LSA.


Damn now I need to try this. Sounds like fun.
ElOhTeeBee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 01:04:33
May 10 2014 01:02 GMT
#1362
Juggernaut build has nowhere near enough survivability. If you go vlads -> yasha -> deso, you'll die if so much as breathed upon. Move deso to lategame and add a drum to core.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
May 10 2014 15:34 GMT
#1363
On May 10 2014 10:02 ElOhTeeBee wrote:
Juggernaut build has nowhere near enough survivability. If you go vlads -> yasha -> deso, you'll die if so much as breathed upon. Move deso to lategame and add a drum to core.


Vlads first is usually poor way of playing jugger. Rather go phase-aquila-(drums/yasha)-aghs if you need survivability. This will give you good deal of hp and mana, both of which help you to survive. Simultaneously you'll buff your ult which means more damage dealt while being invulnerable, something that I'd say definitely counts as survivability.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 10 2014 17:24 GMT
#1364
I'll add back Euls.

Also going to do a Mid Tusk guide.

Also want to redo Naga and someone suggested a mid-naga build whihc I've never seen
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
May 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#1365
i think lich needs forcestaff; at least as optional probably Ok as core.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-19 07:37:23
May 11 2014 11:36 GMT
#1366
edit
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 11 2014 21:29 GMT
#1367
First topic to subscribe to in the new website :D
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LonelyCat
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom130 Posts
May 12 2014 14:33 GMT
#1368
Mid Naga in 6.80 was something like
Q E E Q E R E Q Q W R W W W

but the first point in net was situational (sometimes level 3) and the 2nd+ points were sometimes skipped for stats I think.

Starting:
Shield tango branchx3?

Early game
Bottle QB boots (aquila/drum)

Core items
Radiance Travels

Extension
Manta Heart

Situational
Diffusal Linkens Daedalus Butterfly.

I'm not sure how much the 6.81 changes hurt the mid naga build, nor am I sure of its applicability to a general guide - I think doing a mid naga guide (at least the radiance split push build) would not be good in lower level games where I think guides are more commonly used. From a completeness point of view it could be good if its still strong in 6.81.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
May 12 2014 14:50 GMT
#1369
Sacred Arrow first for Mirana was a great change. Won 3 games in a row yesterday with that build.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 13 2014 07:32 GMT
#1370
On May 12 2014 23:50 Rayeth wrote:
Sacred Arrow first for Mirana was a great change. Won 3 games in a row yesterday with that build.


When we first made the guide, we put all escapes as the first ability.
Now I'm trying to revert them to more aggressive ability selection
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 13 2014 07:33 GMT
#1371
On May 12 2014 23:33 LonelyCat wrote:
Mid Naga in 6.80 was something like
Q E E Q E R E Q Q W R W W W

but the first point in net was situational (sometimes level 3) and the 2nd+ points were sometimes skipped for stats I think.

Starting:
Shield tango branchx3?

Early game
Bottle QB boots (aquila/drum)

Core items
Radiance Travels

Extension
Manta Heart

Situational
Diffusal Linkens Daedalus Butterfly.

I'm not sure how much the 6.81 changes hurt the mid naga build, nor am I sure of its applicability to a general guide - I think doing a mid naga guide (at least the radiance split push build) would not be good in lower level games where I think guides are more commonly used. From a completeness point of view it could be good if its still strong in 6.81.


I feel maybe Naga mid isn't all that useful in the sense that there are more obvious mid heroes to be played. You might be right though.

For now, we'll do a mid tusk :D
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lilopuppy
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines542 Posts
May 13 2014 14:45 GMT
#1372
Really good base standard guides. While they're not optimal for most random pub situations, they're informative enough that you can work your way around it and improvise.
All the way to TI322!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
May 13 2014 18:31 GMT
#1373
naga mid is good, the hero has tons of starting armor and there are very few heros that can really stop naga from getting farm in mid. To be honest i think it is easier to farm a radiance mid than it is to get a radiance in the safelane, the hero has a really small mana pool and bottle crow / rune control really changes the way the hero is played. After radiance her farm is just out of control, the biggest problem in pubs with naga is if your team takes dumb fights, if your team is patient enough naga is a pub-stomper.

On an unrelated note, nyx has no dagger but this item is just core on him. It is much more likely to see blink + force on nyx than it is to see a dagon in high level games.
firebfm
Profile Joined April 2014
22 Posts
May 14 2014 19:00 GMT
#1374
add shadow blade for Tiny. It gives attack speed and it lets Tiny turn invisible to initiate.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 14 2014 19:04 GMT
#1375
Too many other more important items to make Shadowblade good.
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Singularity
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden142 Posts
May 15 2014 15:05 GMT
#1376
On May 15 2014 04:00 firebfm wrote:
add shadow blade for Tiny. It gives attack speed and it lets Tiny turn invisible to initiate.

Tbh this is a very bad item on tiny. Blink is alot better, cheaper and have more flexibility.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
May 15 2014 16:25 GMT
#1377
Shallow grave lvl one on dazzel seems a little off, though I don't play dazzel.
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
May 15 2014 16:30 GMT
#1378
On May 16 2014 01:25 LSB wrote:
Shallow grave lvl one on dazzel seems a little off, though I don't play dazzel.


every dazzle skill can be skilled first, it is very situational what you want.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 18 2014 21:46 GMT
#1379
I'll just Shallow Grave to Poison. Similar with Mirana previously leveling Leap, Dazzle was the same. I'll change to more aggressive starting skills.

I'll see if I can Tusk Mid tomorrow and maybe Naga middle, to be honest; her side-lane isn't that good of a guide either though.

This is if I don't have too much work tomorrow, I'm hoping to change everyone's hero description because they are very, very outdated.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 10:56:55
May 19 2014 07:41 GMT
#1380
edit
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