EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 70
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tauon
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Firebolt145
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Typically as mid Elder Titan you'll want to go Bottle + Phase Boots + Drums -> whatever. Arcanes are kinda meh when you already have Bottle as you're not that much of a mana spender, and Phase is very nice when you've got a ton of damage from your Spirit and you're running after people hitting them really hard. Urn and Mek should be situational rather than core. Hood is very out of place as it should only ever be gotten if you're going for Pipe, which is also situational rather than luxury/extension. Euls and Atos are situationally fine if you're a support Elder Titan but if you're going mid you want to focus more on damage items, so they shouldn't really be mentioned. Typically as mid Elder Titan I'd be looking to get Bottle + Phase + Drums + Wand -> some combination of BKB / AC / Shivas. In terms of skill build, early levels in Stomp don't really benefit you much. Rushing the early levels in Natural Order allows you to do a frightening amount of damage early. Typically you'd go for a 0-4-4-1 before starting to put points in Stomp. On the other hand, if you're talking about support or offlane Elder Titan where you're going to focus a lot more on utility than damage, then you'd be talking about going Arcanes + Urn + Mek + Pipe + Euls/Atos etc. You'd also aim for a 2-4-0-1 build then. But that's support, not mid. | ||
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Firebolt145
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On May 20 2014 20:11 Firebolt145 wrote: Uh, you should still be maxing Ancestral Spirit over Natural Order first. I understood it the other way. I will fix it now. Doing Laning Elder Titan now. W E W E W R W E E now | ||
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TimoS1703
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DoucheyPoochie
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On May 20 2014 20:21 TimoS1703 wrote: A general question: Lets say I missed to subscribe a guide in the Steam community area. is there any chance I can find these guides within a Dota2 match? As usually you can only see about 10 proposed guides you have to chose from. Most of the times I've wanted to use one, they've been minimum one of the top 5 guides, so I don't think there should be any problem. | ||
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Changed Sacred Arrow to be starting ability. Lone Druid (Lane/Jungle) Fixed small text error Ursa Added Healing Salve to Starting Items Lina Moved Force Staff to Situational Items Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items Dazzle Starting Ability: Shallow Grave Added Magic Wand to Core Items Elder Titan (Middle) New Skill Build: W E W E W R W E E Q R Q Q Q (1. Astral Spirit 2. Natural Order 3. Echo Stomp) Removed Healing Salve from Starting Items Added Stout Shield to Starting Items Added Magic Wand to Core Items Removed Hood of Defiance Moved Drums of Endurance to Core Items Removed Arcane Boots from Core Items Added Phase Boots to Core Items Removed Eul's Scepter of Divinity (they'll go to the lane version) Removed Rod of Atos (they'll go to the lane version) NEW GUIDE Elder Titan (Lane) Skill Build: Q W Q W W R W E E E R E Q Q R (1. Astral Spirit 2. Natural Order 3. Echo Stomp) Starting Items: 3x Branches, Clarity, Tangos, Healing Salve Early Game: Boots of Speed, Magic Wand Core Items: Treads, Urn of Shadows, Mekansm, Eul's Scepter of Divinity Situational Items: Rod of Atos, Pipe of Insight Extension Items: Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse, Heart of Tarrasque To check on:
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TimoS1703
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On May 20 2014 20:24 DoucheyPoochie wrote: Most of the times I've wanted to use one, they've been minimum one of the top 5 guides, so I don't think there should be any problem. I rarely saw them there. But guess this was only for some uncommon heroes. Or it has been a language issue, don't know how the guides are sorted. But I switched the in game language to English recently, this could help. | ||
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On May 20 2014 20:21 TimoS1703 wrote: A general question: Lets say I missed to subscribe a guide in the Steam community area. is there any chance I can find these guides within a Dota2 match? As usually you can only see about 10 proposed guides you have to chose from. Yes, you can find nearly most of them within the game. But that is only because people go to the Steam Community site and rate them up http://steamcommunity.com/id/0825771/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=570 Anything that does not have any stars can not be found in the Dota 2 client, so they have to be rated up and only the community can do that if they see if it is worth it. For a lot of new heroes, they get in the new database fast because we do a draft version and publish it to get fast ratings (after every match, the client will ask you to rate the guide, it's a simple thumbs up). But for these "alternate" versions I'm making, it takes awhile and even then, may not ever make it within the client. For more popular heroes, guides with lower star ratings (3) may not be found in the listing yet. They, too, need to be rated up. | ||
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On May 20 2014 20:30 TimoS1703 wrote: I rarely saw them there. But guess this was only for some uncommon heroes. Or it has been a language issue, don't know how the guides are sorted. But I switched the in game language to English recently, this could help. Default setting for guides is English if you're playing on an English client. If you're not, it may default to a different language. You can also set the guides to a language of "all" (see screenshot) and that'll show you the top-rated guides within the client of all languages. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SvhcyMu.png) As you can tell, Alchemist guide is not the top, but among the top 5; so that's good. This isn't the case for all heroes guides in this series. | ||
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LonelyCat
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I think Radiance is still core on LD but not totally sure, maelstrom can work depending on the game, I find it hard to say because the hero feels weak when i've played it recently but i'm not sure that s because i went radiance or just the hero itself. Can't say much about the sniper guide, there are so many options, MoM blink, pure damage with sblade, Mjollnir. I think medallion is pretty underrated on sniper too but its not exactly common. It has 1300 range or something stupid so if you can shoot them, you can medallion them. | ||
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TimoS1703
Germany250 Posts
On May 20 2014 20:38 Torte de Lini wrote: Default setting for guides is English if you're playing on an English client. If you're not, it may default to a different language. You can also set the guides to a language of "all" (see screenshot) and that'll show you the top-rated guides within the client of all languages. As you can tell, Alchemist guide is not the top, but among the top 5; so that's good. This isn't the case for all heroes guides in this series. Ok, thanks for the hint! | ||
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On May 20 2014 21:06 LonelyCat wrote: Naga Siren (Lane) seems outdated - it looks like a support build which was common in 6.79 but seems to have fallen out of favour again (probably because of net nerf) though it still works - I guess it depends if you want Naga Siren (Support) and Naga Siren (carry) guides? Naga siren carry is basically the same as Naga siren mid though so I don't know if you do support guide and mid/carry guide? I think Radiance is still core on LD but not totally sure, maelstrom can work depending on the game, I find it hard to say because the hero feels weak when i've played it recently but i'm not sure that s because i went radiance or just the hero itself. Can't say much about the sniper guide, there are so many options, MoM blink, pure damage with sblade, Mjollnir. I think medallion is pretty underrated on sniper too but its not exactly common. It has 1300 range or something stupid so if you can shoot them, you can medallion them. Yes, it is very outdated. I am not sure what to do with Naga Siren, nor the lane or middle version; she is definitely a hero I've been conflicted about for many months. | ||
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Belisarius
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I understand why you prefer that structure and most of the time it's more approachable, but it does let you down badly in quite a few cases. I'm also not convinced that mid ET suggests damage. He's fine as a utility mek/aura carrier coming out of mid, just like doom/alc et al. He gets more out of his mid levels building damage, obviously, but it's surely going to to be more game-dependent than lane dependent. | ||
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