In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 43

On January 24 2014 00:53 synapse wrote:
I just wanna say for brood, your item choice is almost entirely dependent on the enemy team composition. possibilities include necrobook rush, yasha/basher, old orchid rush, etc. If you were to choose a cookie-cutter build, I think orchid/bkb is still probably pretty good.

I actually think quelling blade is really good to start off with since 1) you can cut down the trees on the jungle side to see any roam/gank incoming and 2) it's very possible to get stuck in trees accidentally at the edge of your web while your web is on cooldown.

Vlads is definitely bad (it always has been) since brood isn't a teamfighter so you're wasting the aura.

On January 24 2014 01:57 synapse wrote:
Tusk -- you probably want phase instead of arcanes, even if you're sidelane and don't get bottle. I think medallion is a core on him. Armlet and shadowblade situational.

On January 24 2014 02:56 TheYango wrote:

The traditional item start on Brood has been regen + branches + Soul Ring recipe, because having to tie up the courier to send Soul Ring sucks really bad for your mid hero.


I personally would put Force Staff under situational. I'd almost always buy it as a support, but as a core Silencer, it's actually not that necessary. Silencer has very respectable Str growth for an Intel hero, so if you really focus on defensive fighting items like Mek+AC, the traditional need for Force Staff as a "positioning" item isn't all that necessary, especially given how long the range of all his spells is.

Orchid and Refresher are also both situational pickups for that hero. Orchid is good in scrappy games where you have Mek but don't really have farm time to save for any of the bigger items, Refresher as a 6th lategame item (not because you can get a 12s Silence, but because with Refresher, you can open fights with Global and not worry about people being able to BKB/Manta it off because you can use the second ulti to re-Silence them).

On January 24 2014 00:56 idonthinksobro wrote:
Venomancer build needs a complete overhaul

skill build
gale/sting/ward/ward/ward/ult
ward/sting/sting/sting/ult
gale/gale/gale/stat/ult

reasons, you need to get your farm mostly by jungling or jungling ancients. At lvl 5 (3wards 1sting) you can already do ancients if you are not needed elsewhere you can farm a fast mek doing ancients. If the enemy team is pushing you have wards to defend it, if you want to push wards is the skill to go. It is also the skill that scales the best for venomancer.

needs either forcestaff (most common) or a blink, almost nobody does shadowblade anymore but it can be done instead of force or blink.
Basilius can be done but is not a must on venomancer, i would never upgrade it to aquila.
Aghs is only situational if you are playing a position 4/5 venomancer it can be hard to get an aghs without buying more important stuff like mek, wards, dust, smoke, tps, upgrade the courier and buy sentrys.
Necro book -> situational
medaillon -> situational (almost every team should have one)

On January 24 2014 03:16 a slow decay wrote:
Your jugg guide needs drum, vlads and SnY in situational at least.

I don't see jugg often in competitive matches but when I do see him he almost always builds mid-game, cheap to build items and doesn't act as a 1 carry which the Battlefury build is more suited for. You'll often see vlads/drum on him in early game as it compliments his pushing ability.

Also, long time no see Torte de Lini, dunno if you remember me but I was around when you first started working on these guides ^_^

On January 24 2014 12:21 BoZiffer wrote:
Love the guides. For some reason, some of the guides don't appear in client even though I have subscribed to them. Centaur being the one that comes to mind off the top. Not sure if its just me though.

On January 24 2014 08:37 cecek wrote:
Juggernaut is really tough. He's arguably the carry with the most versatile "build". And he doesn't even need to carry, he's a very capable mid hero. There are really so many ways to build him, I'm not sure what should be "core" on him. If I were to pick one, I would probably say phase -> drums -> aghanims, I would say that's the most consistent one, probably.

On January 24 2014 18:23 BobMcJohnson wrote:


As a dota newbie I use these guides all the time and the thing that always worked so far for me when I don't see the guide in the list is to set the guide language filter to english. It filters out enough guides to make these move back up in the list when they are not rated high enough.