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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 10:59:52
November 02 2013 10:57 GMT
#641
Viper:
New Skill Build: Max W, Max E then Max Q

Drow:
Moved Shadow Blade to Situational, Black King Bar stays core
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
November 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#642
Spent 20 minutes looking for this thread again. Why is this not stickied?
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 10 2013 17:48 GMT
#643
Use the subscribe feature!

Stickied topics are for typically non-opinion-related/self-interest topics; it's also not representative of the site, just my own ambitions and those who like to contribute (:
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 17:58:02
November 10 2013 17:57 GMT
#644
Left still to Verify



Skywrath Mage:
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Skywrath Mage Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Added Mantle of Intelligence to Starting Items (to verify validity)
Removed Bloodstone from Situational Items
Moved Rod of Atos from Core items to Situational Items (to verify validity)
Removed Orchid Malevolence from Situational Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items (to verify validity)
Moved Veil of Discord to Core items
Added Aghanim's Scepter as Extension Items
Added Descriptions for Iron Branch, Aghanim's Scepter and Shiva's Guard.

Meepo: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Meepo Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Removed Iron Branch and Vladmir's Offering
Updated Descriptions for Aghanim's Scepter, Mekansm, Ethreal Blade, Earthbind, Geostrike and United We Stand
New Skill Build: QWWRWEWQQQREEE (Max Poof, one in Geostrike at 6, Max Earthbind)

Lycanthrope:
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Lycanthrope Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Added two Iron Branches to Starting Items (to verify validity)
Updated Descriptions for Skull Basher, Desolator and Assault Cuirass

Brewmaster: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Brewmaster Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Moved Drums of Endurance from Situational Items to Core Items (to verify validity)
Moved Blink Dagger from Core Items to Situational Items (to verify validity)
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Removed Iron Branch and Shiva's Guard
Updated Descriptions for: Aghanim's Scepter, Blink Dagger, Drums of Endurance, Assault Cuirass, Thunder Clap, Drunken Haze and Primal Split.

Slardar: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Slardar Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Removed Healing Salve
Added Blink Dagger as Situational Items
Added Descriptions for Medallion of Courage and Blink Dagger

Invoker: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Invoker Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Removed Iron Branch (to verify validity)

Silencer: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Silencer Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
New Skill Build: EQEQEREQQWRWWW (Max E then Q then W) (to verify validity)
Updated Descriptions for Glaives of Wisdom

Tusk:
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Tusk Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Removed Shadow Blade
Added Desolater to Core Items (to verify validity)
Updated Descriptions for Desolator, Frozen Sigil

Ogre Magi: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Ogre Magi Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Updated Descriptions for Mekansm, Drums of Endurance, Rod of Atos, Veil of Discord

Bloodseeker: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Bloodseeker Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Removed Shadow Blade, Removed Diffusal Blade, Power Treads
Added Descriptions for Sange & Yasha and Desolator
New Skill Build:

Dazzle:
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Dazzle Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Moved Soul Ring to Situational
Added Clarity, 3x Iron Branches and Tango to Starting Items
Moved Pipe of Insight to Situational Items
Added Sentry Ward to Core Items
Moved Urn of Shadows to Core Items
Removed Medallion of Courage
New Skill Build: WEQQQRQWWWREEER (Max Q, One in W and E before 6, max W then E) (to verify validity)

Naga Siren: (to verify validity)
Added tag 6.79 - Standard Naga Siren Build in the title.
Added Tab: "Contributors" to add some credit to major contributors
Moved Mekansm to Core Items (to verify validity)
Removed Quelling Blade from Starting items
Added Clarity, Healing Salve and Ring of Protection to Starting Items (to verify validity)
Removed Poor Man's Shield, Daedlus and Butterfly (to verify validity)
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game (to verify validity)
Added Urn of Shadows, Heaven's Halberd and Medallion of Courage to Situational (to verify validity)
Moved Assault Cuirass to Extension Items (to verify validity)
Updated Descriptions for Urn of Shadows, Medallion of Courage, Assault Cuirass and Manta Style

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 09:12:55
November 14 2013 08:30 GMT
#645
Will be doing Earth Spirit and Ember Spirit when it gets released on main client.

Draft Skill build:

Ember: Q W Q E Q R W W W E E R E Q
Earth: E W E Q E R E Q Q Q R W W W

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 14 2013 16:55 GMT
#646
New subscription numbers are showing a large increase of subscriptions. Still unsure about a few guides and want to stamp out some pretty tentative suggestions.


for Ember and Earth Spirit. their item builds are a bit difficult to place
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#647
Where the blazing fuck did you get that Earth Spirit skill order lmao.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 14 2013 18:40 GMT
#648
Wasn't sure if to max Q or E to be honest ):
Reading guides and listening to opinions. I need Yango's touch (I tried your Viper build recently; so godly)
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 14 2013 20:15 GMT
#649
Do you have the skills mixed up? There's like zero reason to max Geomagnetic Grip first. I can see the argument for maxing Boulder Smash if the end up porting the DotA 1 bug where Rolling Boulder's damage doesn't increase like it's supposed to, but otherwise it should be Rolling Boulder > Boulder Smash > Geomagnetic Grip. Rolling Boulder has the most damage scaling when remnants are taken into account, and scale down to a ridiculous 4 second CD.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 14 2013 20:29 GMT
#650
I would figure you want 1 in rolling boulder for the chasing/escape mechanism and then max Q or E for the double-CC. I didn't take a good look at their cooldowns and scaleability yet, but I would have never guessed maxing W first.

Item builds are really my main concern because he seems be quite versatile in magic, but I'm not sure what he needs besides more mana.

Ember Spirit as well.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 14 2013 20:34 GMT
#651
Earth Spirit's basically an item independent hero. He needs Boots, Bottle and everything else is from his skills. He can get Mana Boots, but doesn't really need it because his high Int gain outgrows his low mana costs pretty quickly.

Other than that he should just get team support items like Mek because he doesn't really need items for himself.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 20:41:39
November 14 2013 20:38 GMT
#652
Ah, playing mid; makes more sense to max Boulder. I'm really uninformed thus far.

W Q W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E 16: R

For items [in no order] I had Eul's, Sheep Stick, Shiva's, Veil of Discord, Ghost Scepter, Atos???, Urn?
I think Arcane with Meka and Bottle is actually not bad; less dependency for bottle; but maybe phase?

edit: if he gets urn with bottle, then he can skip out on arcane no?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 07:16:17
November 15 2013 06:31 GMT
#653
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=195048794

Tentative Build for Earth Spirit released, will refine all day today.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=195052251

Tentative Build for Ember Spirit released, will refine all day today
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 16 2013 18:50 GMT
#654
Just played as Earth Spirit, pretty satisfied with his skill build. Items might need more rounding out; not sure about Force Staff.

Ember Spirit, I have no idea.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
November 16 2013 19:20 GMT
#655
I don't know about bottle rush on Earth Spirit, especially if you're not solo mid. A stout shield helps quite a big deal. Urn is certainly a good option as well if no one else on the team makes one. Other than that looks fine to me.

I haven't really looked into Ember Spirit much so I can't comment too much, but I feel like OoV should belong there, and THUNDERHAMMER should certainly go somewhere.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 16 2013 19:31 GMT
#656
I was debating about urn for awhile and decided to just remove it altogether if youre going arcane + bottle. He uses about 75% of his spells after you have those two anyways. I even went force staff this game and it feels so over the top.

OoV would be a good option, I should add it.
Not sure about Maelstrom, I'm so unsure about it and when does he get it?
Skill build too...
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2013 19:31 GMT
#657
I think earth spirit is one of those rare heroes where you can go 1-1-1 and then (probably) max w. But I think going w-q-e is amazing because you have a lot of kill potential at lvl 3 that way.

I really like drums on an earth spirit mid. Kinda like an et, all they need are their skills so items that help the team are great.

Maybe there is an argument to be made for getting blink on him but that seems pretty tricky
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
November 16 2013 19:33 GMT
#658
You don't get items for their mana or stats, you get Urn for its heal/nuke and Force Staff for the Force active.

I'd definitely continue to get Urn on Earth Spirit.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 16 2013 19:37 GMT
#659
Yeah urn on earth spirit is like getting urn on night stalker. Not always the best choice but definitely great in most scenarios.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 17 2013 22:41 GMT
#660
Changed up Jungle Doom's items from Healing Salve, Stout Shield, Ring of Protection to Tangos, Stout Shield, Ring of Protection.

Adding Urn to Earth Spirit's Situational Items
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