In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 315

On June 05 2016 23:10 BluemoonSC wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/skywrath-mage/guides

2 ppl mid picking up a veil on the first page here.

It's everything skywrath needs, especially int and builds off of that null talisman you pick up at the start of the game.

I never thought I would be this guy bc I sound like Yango now .. but just cause the pros are doing something doesn't mean they're doing something hat can be emulated by a 2k player playing the hero mid for he first time. He's extremely squishy. Try playing the build you propose and see how you fair.

But if you can't be convinced this is superior, the build you want isnt awful. Just not as good.

On June 06 2016 05:07 BluemoonSC wrote:
for support i think that arcane -> aether is superior only because you're not planning on being less-squishy, as fast as you would if you were planning on rushing out a bloodstone with farm priority and kills.

i personally think that high level pub players should be the source of your builds more than the pros (or at least greater than a 50/50 representation) because thats the environment your guide-users will ultimately be exposed to.

On June 06 2016 05:33 Torte de Lini wrote:


It's three aspects you have to consider

+ User Expectations
+ User Environment
+ Target Users

They are some overlap with one another, but they also differentiate somewhat heavily. Users expect pro player builds because it trickles down to high-level pub players. But, pro builds are also dictated by the team's coordination and context of the match (enemy line-up, etc.)

That doesn't remove what the community approves as "standard" builds, but we also have to account that the target users are neither as efficient or pro-active with their heroes and thus timings for XYZ items or builds are delayed to the point that they are no longer as valid.

Especially true for Bloodstone/Radiance builds.

When it comes to 'picking a source' of the builds, there is no one true source. It's just ultimately making a decision.

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I don't think any public players are going for Arcane -> Aether Lens on Skywrath? Where did you see that build?

I thought it was Veil -> Arcane Boots -> Urn. I will double-check

+ User Expectations
+ User Environment
+ Target Users

They are some overlap with one another, but they also differentiate somewhat heavily. Users expect pro player builds because it trickles down to high-level pub players. But, pro builds are also dictated by the team's coordination and context of the match (enemy line-up, etc.)

That doesn't remove what the community approves as "standard" builds, but we also have to account that the target users are neither as efficient or pro-active with their heroes and thus timings for XYZ items or builds are delayed to the point that they are no longer as valid.

Especially true for Bloodstone/Radiance builds.

When it comes to 'picking a source' of the builds, there is no one true source. It's just ultimately making a decision.