Yep he has been for well over a month now, he's played as a bounty hunter replacement kinda. You don't really bother getting ulti till late, smoke screen is too much value.

Velzi

Finland659 Posts

June 10 2016 10:17 GMT

#6324

Pretty sure u get one point in ult to dodge stuff and maybe for one "ranged" attack to finish off leaving enemy.

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Germany38463 Posts

June 10 2016 21:14 GMT

#6325

Should we change our build to Offlane/Roaming or keep it Core - Safe Lane?

I will research some roaming Riki builds and test them out today.

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

June 10 2016 21:19 GMT

#6326

Riki can definitely still be run as a carry, it just isn't popular at higher mmrs due to his poor farming ability and how much impact he can have as a support with little farm.

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Germany38463 Posts

June 10 2016 21:27 GMT

#6327

I updated the Core version of

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Germany38463 Posts

June 10 2016 22:07 GMT

#6328

For two weeks.

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Germany38463 Posts

June 11 2016 03:42 GMT

#6329

Publishing Changes

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Germany38463 Posts

June 11 2016 04:16 GMT

#6330

Guess I'm on vacation until the system is fixed.

Stats in 3 hours.

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Germany38463 Posts

June 11 2016 08:54 GMT

#6331

After ~15 days (May 26 to June 10), we have risen from 143,175,783 to 146,321,029 combined subscriptions

A difference of 3,145,246
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Pudge (980,882 -> 1,009,264)
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Portions of their pledges will go to long-time community members, dedicated to providing feedback to keep this collection of hero builds accurate to current standards of play.

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Germany38463 Posts

June 11 2016 09:06 GMT

#6332

Birdie, ahswtini, Belisarius, Logo, Sn0_Man, Velzi, BluemoonSC, TheWanderingZebra, Buckyman,

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Germany38463 Posts

June 13 2016 05:30 GMT

#6333

6.88 released, guides are still bugged so I can't update them.

Personal note:

Spirit Siphon drain redunction from 25 to 16 (max Q instead?)
Ignore now static mana cost

Phantom Strike goes through BKB

Smoke at max mana static cost (90). See if roaming Riki still strong

Mana cost for Conjure Image is 10 less mana (80 to 70)

improve ultimate

nice base regen (0.75 up from 0.25)

early-game mana issues gone?

Hurricane Pike First?

To-do:

Push Echo Sabre Core on all

Lifestealer (Core - Jungle is already Echo Sabre)
Push latest changes unpublished
Push 6.88 title change
Push tab: "Patreon.com/Torte" to after Starting Items (before Early Game/Core Items). Figure Starting + Early Game Items

Third level -> Q, Soul Ring after Boots + Wand, Quelling Blade before Boots of Speed

Core -> Phase -> Drums -> Armlet (Shadow Blade to Situational Items). Add Halberd to Situational Items

relook at starting items + skill build

fix &amp text

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

June 14 2016 23:26 GMT

#6334

Patch doesn't look like it changes much in terms of builds.

I'd be in favour of offlane riki.

He's still fine as a carry but roaming riki is pretty meta right now, and being an early adopter of the meta stuff tends to get you subscribers. The roaming build is honestly pretty unique in that you build all the carry stuff anyway.

I still don't think ench rushes pike.

I think armlet replaces drums on kka. He needs one of sb/blink in core. Halberd isn't particularly important.

PA is definitely Bfury core now, her lategame is so much better.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

June 15 2016 00:12 GMT

#6335

On June 15 2016 08:26 Belisarius wrote:
Patch doesn't look like it changes much in terms of builds.

I'd be in favour of offlane riki.

He's still fine as a carry but roaming riki is pretty meta right now, and being an early adopter of the meta stuff tends to get you subscribers. The roaming build is honestly pretty unique in that you build all the carry stuff anyway.

I still don't think ench rushes pike.

I think armlet replaces drums on kka. He needs one of sb/blink in core. Halberd isn't particularly important.

PA is definitely Bfury core now, her lategame is so much better.

Builds still bugged, can't update shit. I still have some remnants of the last patch changes that I didn't get to publish so I'm a little upset at how incomplete my work is.

Can you give me the build for roaming riki? I want to try it but cant nail down the item/skill build order.

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

June 15 2016 00:51 GMT

#6336

Uh idk it varies by how well you're doing. Only essentials are oov and E into smoke with 1 in blink fairly early. Anything after 1-x-1 depends on how things are going, but you usually end up with like 2-2-1-1 by 6.

After that you either go tranqs into full utility and QW if you're failing, or ideally treads wand diffu and start taking E like normal if you're picking up kills. I'd probably say boots wand (upboots) diffu, maybe with tranqs over treads and like EQWQWRWWEER maybe.

It's kind of weird really. It has a lot of the same issues as DPS BH that I'm aware I was ranting about earlier, but smoke and diffu usually means that even if he's super behind, he can at least take a support out of the fight or disrupt a core at a key moment.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22212 Posts

June 15 2016 10:43 GMT

#6337

most ppl i see keep smoke at lvl 1 until last

Logo

United States7542 Posts

June 15 2016 15:59 GMT

#6338

It's kind of weird really. It has a lot of the same issues as DPS BH that I'm aware I was ranting about earlier, but smoke and diffu usually means that even if he's super behind, he can at least take a support out of the fight or disrupt a core at a key moment.

At the same time not really though. Blinkstrike & Ult mean you can get off at least a few auto-attacks in any fight ensuring that you get value out of your combat oriented items even if smoking on top of a support to take them out isn't an option. Even if the ult partially wiffs it's still a zoning tool if you have a combat item.

Battle BH often runs the risk of getting 0 to 1 auto-attacks off in a fight because he just gets caught out and controlled (or killed).

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22212 Posts

June 15 2016 16:16 GMT

#6339

smoke and his ult means he can quite safely be in the thick of it right clicking. the problem is riki doesnt have any other utility other than smoke. bounty can comfortably sit from a distance to track and throw shurikens. riki needs to be right clicking if he wants to contribute to a fight meaningfully outside of just dropping a smoke