EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 178
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On May 31 2015 02:30 Buckyman wrote: Why do you even have 6 Extension items? Cut MKB+Basher in favor of Abyssal IMO. 3 per core build | ||
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On May 31 2015 02:59 Buckyman wrote: In other words, trying to combine two guides is really starting to hurt its clarity in addition to its elegance. It would be perfectly logical to use this guide to start with courier+wards, build out into Phase+Vlad's+S&Y, and finish the game off with Guardian Greaves. Or build Mek/Urn/MKB from position 5. I'm very undecided with this hero because he can play literally 3 positions | ||
TheYango
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This was pointed out very early on when the guides just started, but for whatever reason, Torte refused to change it then, so now it's harder to change due to how entrenched high view count guides are and the inertia against adoption of new guides. | ||
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On May 31 2015 04:33 TheYango wrote: The real problem again stems back to the fact that Torte has simply used the term "Lane" rather than specifying safe lane, off lane, or support, and so any hero that can do more than one of those is going to be problematic. This was pointed out very early on when the guides just started, but for whatever reason, Torte refused to change it then, so now it's harder to change due to how entrenched high view count guides are and the inertia against adoption of new guides. If it can still be done now, the issue is, as usual, that it would be too many guides to update if we expanded beyond the ~150 we have now. It would be another 25+ at minimum if we split them up. I refused to change it then because I felt that it would be too specific rather than all encompassing for a hero as I didn't set out to do more than one guide for a hero. I also felt that itemization would be the same regardless of the lane (at the time and in view of who I was targeting) | ||
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ahswtini
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>complains that theres no more room for items also why is basher even listed as extension, if ur gonna have it then put abyssal. anyone with a smidgen of brain will realise u have to build a basher as part of it | ||
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On June 01 2015 08:41 ahswtini wrote: >wants all encompassing guide >complains that theres no more room for items also why is basher even listed as extension, if ur gonna have it then put abyssal. anyone with a smidgen of brain will realise u have to build a basher as part of it That's a selective way of using my words. I will fix Basher to Abysall | ||
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134962374 Screen: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=453269067 | ||
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On June 01 2015 20:43 anijatsu wrote: Just a formatting error I've encountered. In your description of Bristleback skill some ampersands decided to kick in unformatted. Shows up in game, too. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134962374 Screen: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=453269067 I thought I fixed them all, but I guess not; thank you | ||
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I was thinking of just pushing Bloodstone as Extension. | ||
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On June 02 2015 00:15 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean bloodstone is more core than orchid these days. I would argue the reverse + the current meta calling for Orchid over Bloodstone. | ||
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On June 02 2015 00:22 TheYango wrote: It doesn't really make sense to have them as two separate builds, seeing as the items aren't mutually exclusive. I figured, just needed confirmation. | ||
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Sn0_Man
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from a "wow look at all these players winning games at 4, 5, 6, 7K and even pro games" standpoint bloodstone is the overwhelming preference. The thing is, the soul ring from bloodstone is really efficient for farming anyway and the rest of bloodstone is cheaper than starting an orchid from scratch while providing a lot more mana, regen and hp. It's simply more stable as a build, especially if you are forced into a 2nd item bkb since you have your HP and mana bases somewhat covered already. | ||
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Velzi
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I have had mixed results with skadi, is there any reason to get it? I mean u get decent stats but u dont really need the slow effect from it since u are faster anyone else at that point anyways + it doesnt really bump up ur damage output as a 5th-6th item. No euls mentioned? i think u should make some sort of "bkb vs these" "linkens vs these" "euls vs these" thingy, i know all of those are not built for same reasons but they all kinda have defensive capabilities vs certain line-ups. | ||
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