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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 10 2015 20:01 GMT
#3001
There's zero point in having RoP in early game, lol. Just put Tranquils there.

You aren't going to buy 2 casual RoPs when jungling. When you make your Tranquils, you're going to get Boots first.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#3002
I find having both RoP makes jungling easier overall.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2015 20:36 GMT
#3003
i think midas is pretty core out of the jungle since u don't really need a blink to make an early doom gank possible and you are pretty far behind if u hard jungle so u gotta catch up.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 11 2015 00:19 GMT
#3004
On February 11 2015 05:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
i think midas is pretty core out of the jungle since u don't really need a blink to make an early doom gank possible and you are pretty far behind if u hard jungle so u gotta catch up.


I'll have to test it more, I feel getting Midas doesn't really line-up in terms of timing/items I want to get. Even after RoB, I still find myself struggling a bit to jungle overall, even with the right, creeps. etc.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 00:26:12
February 11 2015 00:25 GMT
#3005
thats why nobody actually buys rob on jungle doom to my knowledge even though I do understand the logic behind it
also why hard jungle doom sucks ass
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
February 11 2015 01:04 GMT
#3006
Basi won't fix your mana problems, just courier a clarity after a doom gank.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 07:00:41
February 11 2015 07:00 GMT
#3007
May want to consider Necrobook as situational on Warlock mid (and lane i guess... but support warlock should prioritize aghs/refresher before necro and they likely wont get enough farm to buy it) guide for the extra pushing power
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 10:03:03
February 11 2015 08:16 GMT
#3008
Ah well, I'll see how I can improve Jungle Doom.

On February 11 2015 16:00 tehh4ck3r wrote:
May want to consider Necrobook as situational on Warlock mid (and lane i guess... but support warlock should prioritize aghs/refresher before necro and they likely wont get enough farm to buy it) guide for the extra pushing power


Yes, I gotta sit down and just play some Warlock games.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 21:32:54
February 11 2015 10:12 GMT
#3009
ed
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 11 2015 10:17 GMT
#3010
You probably don't take Splinter Blast at level 1 as Wyvern. It's the best skill to max, but it's probably the least useful skill to have at level 1, and both the first rank of Arctic Burn and Cold Embrace are more useful.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 10:22:35
February 11 2015 10:22 GMT
#3011
On February 11 2015 19:17 TheYango wrote:
You probably don't take Splinter Blast at level 1 as Wyvern. It's the best skill to max, but it's probably the least useful skill to have at level 1, and both the first rank of Arctic Burn and Cold Embrace are more useful.


Done.

Though, probably best to take the heal at level 3, so I've rearranged that too.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 13:57:46
February 11 2015 12:08 GMT
#3012
It's going to look like we'll hit 60 million by the 15th, instead of the end of the month; especially if Winter Wyvern comes out tomorrow. That's an automatic minimum of 100,000 (if we get the initial votes in and support to get it in-game upon release)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 11 2015 18:44 GMT
#3013
I hope I get home in time for the new patch. I will be in Holland tomorrow for 9 hours.
Also curious about the changes. Juggernaut will need revamping and that's pretty much it.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 11 2015 18:50 GMT
#3014
continuing hte jugg discussion in a thread where it belongs,

Stats are equal damage to crit at early levels plus give other benefits and you do get the 1 value point in crit (the first point being absurd value). max crit is only needed once u have some damage items.

I'm not sure if u end up maxing spin now though for the mana cost reduction or not. I think not tbh but not sure.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 11 2015 18:51 GMT
#3015
I think the reason spin is not leveled any more is because it's either good early-game to gank/kill or to escape late-game/break debuff.

I think the increase in mana is to prevent exactly that, but it doesn't make it any more good, just more shit.

Very curious how he'll be played now, surprised Troll dodged a bullet.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 21:11:17
February 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#3016
Yeah I agree with Torte on bladefury. I don't think the patch changes how he builds; it just makes him worse at it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 23:28:43
February 11 2015 21:58 GMT
#3017
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 11 2015 22:01 GMT
#3018
bat usually gets a value point in flamebreak at 8 I think. it's ability to push baddies back to you and cancel TP's when u can't lasso is 100% worth it. The last points in napalm are unspectacular.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 22:03:44
February 11 2015 22:03 GMT
#3019
As always, 4-4-1 Jugg and 1-1-1 Stats Jugg play totally differently. You don't suddenly start playing 4-4-1 in situations where you were playing 1-1-1 before, because even though 1-1-1 is less good now, 4-4-1 is still shit at doing the things 4-4-1 is good for.

4-4-1 might be compelling for other reasons, but it's not a direct replacement.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-11 22:07:00
February 11 2015 22:06 GMT
#3020
On February 12 2015 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
bat usually gets a value point in flamebreak at 8 I think. it's ability to push baddies back to you and cancel TP's when u can't lasso is 100% worth it. The last points in napalm are unspectacular.


I figured as well but didn't see it anywhere actually done recently (n terms of skillbuild)

On February 12 2015 07:03 TheYango wrote:
As always, 4-4-1 Jugg and 1-1-1 Stats Jugg play totally differently. You don't suddenly start playing 4-4-1 in situations where you were playing 1-1-1 before, because even though 1-1-1 is less good now, 4-4-1 is still shit at doing the things 4-4-1 is good for.

4-4-1 might be compelling for other reasons, but it's not a direct replacement.


So nothing changes?
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