EPTbut there's no way u skip stomp that long I think since before ppl have boots its actually hittable as a ganking tool if you do it right.
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
but there's no way u skip stomp that long I think since before ppl have boots its actually hittable as a ganking tool if you do it right. | ||
TheYango
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If it's offlane, you can delay stomp cuz your team's probably just gonna leave you on an island and not gank for you cuz 99% of pub supports never bother helping the offlane. If it's support, you more or less have to take Stomp at 2, cuz rank 1 aura does almost nothing at level 2, lol. | ||
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I mixed the skill build, should be stomp at 2 for the easy fb. I just played the game as ET where I didn't get stomp until late and it went awful. | ||
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 InvokerAdded Iron Branch to Starting Items Removed Necromonicon Added Orchid of Malevolence to Situational Items Added Magic Wand to Core Items Remade Guide  JuggernautSkill Build: Q W E Stats Stats R Stats Stats E W R E E W W R Stats Stats Stats Stats Stats Stats Q Q Q (1. Blade Dance 2. Healing Ward 3. Stats 4. Blade Fury) Starting Items: Stout Shield, Tangos, 2x Iron Branch, Healing Salve Early Game: Boots of Speed, Magic Wand Core Items: Phase Boots, Quelling Blade, Mask of Madness, Yasha, Skull Basher, Manta Style Situational Items: Diffusal Blade, Black King Bar, Sange & Yasha, Battlefury, Mjollnir Extension Items: Abyssal, Butterfly, Satanic, Monkey King Bar, Eye of Skadi  Doom (Lane)Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items items were arranged in their newly updated order Doom (Jungle)Removed Arcane Boots Removed Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core - Ganker Created New Tab: "Extension Items" Moved Refresher's Orb to "Extension Items" Moved Scythe of Vyse to "Extension Items" Moved Assault Cuirass to "Extension Items" Moved Heart of Tarrasque to "Extension Items" items were arranged in their newly updated order Elder Titan (Lane) New Skill Build: W Q W E Q R E E E W W Q Q R R (1. Natural Order 2. Astral Spirit 3. Echo Stomp) Removed Clarity Added Courier to Starting Items Added Observer Ward to Starting Items Removed Bottle Removed Power Treads Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items Added Soul Ring to Early Game Removed Mekansm Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Core Items Moved Force Staff to Situational Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Removed Black King Bar Removed Scythe of Vyse Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Phoenix (Lane) Phoenix (Middle) Moved Mekansm to Situational Items Removed Ghost Scepter Added Veil of Discord to Extension Items Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Extension Items Moved Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Added Rod of Atos to Situational Items Removed Pipe of Insight Created New Tab: "Midas by 11 Mins" Added Hand of Midas to "Midas by 11 Mins" Removed Early Game (moved Wand after Tranquils)  Gyrocopter (Lane)Moved Satanic to Extension Items Moved Helm of the Dominator to Situational Items Moved Drums of Endurance to Core Items Added Manta Style to Situational Items Gyrocopter (Middle)Added Manta Style to Situational Items  Warlock (Middle)New Skill Build: W Stats W Stats W R W E E E R E Q Q Q R Q (1. Shadow Word 2. Upheaval 3. Fatal Bonds) Created New Tab: "Midas by 8 Mins" Added Hand of Midas to "Midas by 8 Mins"  Shadow FiendMoved Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Moved Desolator to Situational Items Warlock (Lane)New Skill Build: W E W E W R W E E Q R Q Q Q (1. Shadow Word 2. Upheaval 3. Fatal Bonds)  PudgeRemoved Hood of Defiance Moved Blink Dagger to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Created New Tab: "Utility Items" Moved Smoke of Deceit to "Utility Items" Moved Observer Wards to "Utility Items"  Bloodseeker (Jungle) Bloodseeker (Lane)Removed Power Treads Removed Butterfly Added Mjollnir to Extension Items Added Phase Boots to Core Items Bloodseeker (Middle)Removed Bottle Added 3x Iron Branch to Starting Items Added Poor Man's Shield to Early Game Removed Power Treads Added Phase Boots to Core Items Added Mjollnir to Extension Items Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items Removed Butterfly | ||
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New Skill Build: W Q W E Q R E E E W W Q Q R R (1. Natural Order 2. Astral Spirit 3. Echo Stomp) Patch list is getting long, so we'll cut it here and start a new list. I'm ramping up a minimum of 3 to 6 games a night (depending when I go home); so I think we'll see a lot more updates and changes as I try to play every uncomfortable hero (today was Bloodseeker - only got 1 game in sadly) | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
You might want to add that link to the OP for people who want to subscribe to all the heroes at once. I sorta forgot it existed. | ||
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On February 10 2015 08:57 Nevuk wrote: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23519508 You might want to add that link to the OP for people who want to subscribe to all the heroes at once. I sorta forgot it existed. You're right, I'm just having difficulty fitting it in to be frank. | ||
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Winter Wyvern (Lane) Skill Build: W Q W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E (1. Splinter Blast 2. Splinter Blast 3. Arctic Burn) Starting Items: Courier/Wards, 3x Iron Branches, Clarity, Tangos Early Game: Soul Ring, Boots of Speed, Magic Wand Core Items: Tranquil Boots, Blink Dagger, Eul's Scepter of Divinity Utility Items: Flying Courier, Observer Wards, Sentry Wards, Dust of Appearance, Gem of True Sight, Smoke of Deceit Situational Items: Medallion of Courage, Mekansm, Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Rod of Atos Extension Items: Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse, Refresher's Orb Luxury Items: Eye of Skadi, Boots of Travel | ||
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Just realized this now. The mere fact that no money is earned from this is perhaps the best of both worlds. If I gained anything from this, I don't think I'd get the help and support form everyone here and beyond. In addition, it also removes anyone who would be interested in doing this (on top of the fact that the Steam Cloud servers are completely fucking awful and only my own stubbornness can persevere through that shit) since there's no return in it besides the feel-good feeling. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 10 2015 19:35 Torte de Lini wrote: Removed Butterfly Should be at least situational. Butterfly is always at least situational on lategame Agi carries (unless it's PA who has innate evasion so it's less effective to get more). On February 10 2015 19:35 Torte de Lini wrote: Added Quelling Blade to Extension Items I don't know where this came from, but whatever it is, it's gimmicky and should not be in a guide like this. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [relevant xkcd] + http://xkcd.com/1475/ | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 10 2015 19:35 Torte de Lini wrote:  BatriderNew Skill Build: Q E Q E Q R Q E E W R W W W (1. Sticky Napalm 2. Firefly 3. Flamebreak) Added Tranquil Boots to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter  ChenRemoved Tab: Core - Aghanim's Moved Aghanim's Scepter to Core Items Moved Necromonicon to Situational Items Moved Force Staff to Extension Items  ClinkzCreated New Tab: "Situational Items" Added Medallion of Courage to Situational Items Moved Helm of the Dominator to Situational Items Added Diffusal Blade to Situational Items Added Scythe of Vyse to Extension Items Added Monkey King Bar to Extension Items Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items Removed Butterfly  LunaAdded Quelling Blade to Extension Items Moved Manta Style to Core Items Added Assault Cuirass to Extension Items Not really too sure, but when I see pros play Batrider, they go for 2 in q, 4 in E (universe did this game 2 finals of DAC). I think this is for faster clearing stacked camps in the jungle - though I guess its whether your build is more laning centric or to rotate through jungle more (which should be the the best way to play him anyways, but I dunno). | ||
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On February 11 2015 01:28 TheYango wrote: Should be at least situational. Butterfly is always at least situational on lategame Agi carries (unless it's PA who has innate evasion so it's less effective to get more). I don't know where this came from, but whatever it is, it's gimmicky and should not be in a guide like this. I didn't feel it would take precedent over more crippling items such as Skadi or Satanic, so I didn't include. Removed, I was thinking correctly in that Luna is ranged. On February 11 2015 01:34 Comeh wrote: Not really too sure, but when I see pros play Batrider, they go for 2 in q, 4 in E (universe did this game 2 finals of DAC). I think this is for faster clearing stacked camps in the jungle - though I guess its whether your build is more laning centric or to rotate through jungle more (which should be the the best way to play him anyways, but I dunno). I was thinking of doing a Jungle Batrider for awhile. This is purely for Middle Lane Batrider as it is hard to describe how to lane/jungle Batrider similar to Lane/Jungle Sand King. I'll take a double-look, this was just a correction in getting W in the first 6 levels, which is an outdated flaw. edit: you are right, better to max E first | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
wheeeeeee | ||
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New Skill Build: Q E Q E E R E Q Q W R W W W (1. Firefly 2. Sticky Napalm 3. Flamebreak) | ||
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