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Hmm... nothing =P I guess I could probably run 500w.
Right now I have a gtx770. My antec earthwatts 430w power supply has every single cable used and my optical drive doesn't have power. I've got an avermedia livegamer hd capture card. Everything else is pretty durn standard. An SSD, an HDD, 2x2 gb memory.
I'm thinking I might get a coolermaster hyper 212 cooler now.
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United Kingdom20327 Posts
On December 05 2014 00:18 Brettatron wrote:Hmm... nothing =P I guess I could probably run 500w. Right now I have a gtx770. My antec earthwatts 430w power supply has every single cable used and my optical drive doesn't have power. I've got an avermedia livegamer hd capture card. Everything else is pretty durn standard. An SSD, an HDD, 2x2 gb memory. I'm thinking I might get a coolermaster hyper 212 cooler now.
That ereboss cooler is quite a lot better and worth the extra price i think, at $35 it's very good
so.. why do you want a different/higher wattage PSU if your current one is sufficient for overclocked Haswell and the strongest single GPU's on the market?
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On December 05 2014 02:16 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2014 00:18 Brettatron wrote:Hmm... nothing =P I guess I could probably run 500w. Right now I have a gtx770. My antec earthwatts 430w power supply has every single cable used and my optical drive doesn't have power. I've got an avermedia livegamer hd capture card. Everything else is pretty durn standard. An SSD, an HDD, 2x2 gb memory. I'm thinking I might get a coolermaster hyper 212 cooler now. That ereboss cooler is quite a lot better and worth the extra price i think, at $35 it's very good so.. why do you want a different/higher wattage PSU if your current one is sufficient for overclocked Haswell and the strongest single GPU's on the market?
1) Need more connectors. Right now I'm using adaptors on adaptors to power everything and still dont have power to my optical drive.
2) Uhhh... yeah thats it. Thats really the only reason to get a new one.
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My current build is about ~4 yrs old and I'm looking to build a new PC.
What is your budget?
Roughly $1000, excluding OS (my university gives me free copy of Windows 7)
What is your monitor's native resolution?
Will be running 3 monitors at 1080 by 1920
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
My staple games are Dota 2 and GW2, however I also tend to play whatever AAA title is currently out.
Do you intend to overclock?
Yes
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Have monitors + have secondary storage already
Based on some of my own research, I've put together the following build
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H90 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NZXT)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $1029.41
Before I pull the trigger and purchase, is there any glaring errors/improvements/suggestions that I can make?
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i want to get the liquid cooler because I'm concerned about noise levels - my current pc fan (hyper 212) is actually a bit too loud for me, as I'm a light sleeper.
You're right, i forgot that I should get the unlocked cpu. I'll make sure to get the right one
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How are temperatures? Nobody said you had to run the fan at full or default speeds on your current Hyper 212. H90 shouldn't be that much better cooling for the noise level. Note that the pump on a liquid cooler also makes noise; you can always replace the fan(s) readily on any air or liquid cooling system, but a relatively noisy pump or one that becomes noisier is a more difficult and expensive liability. Also, what are you doing with your CPU now while you're sleeping? Running encodes / renders? How else is the CPU getting stressed enough to make the fan spin fast enough to be disturbing? And if you're that sensitive to noise, why the H90 and that video card model?
The XFX XTR 650W is way overkill and uses a decent FDB fan, but if you picked that for lower noise, the fan speed curve they run makes it not that quiet. In any case, you're overpaying there too, most likely.
Main issues are the non-K CPU and the fact that 8 series motherboards like that Z87-A may not ship with an updated BIOS revision that supports the relatively newer Haswell refresh or Devil's Canyon CPUs. Some Asus motherboards can update BIOS from a USB drive without a processor, but I checked and you need the model above the Z87-A for that.
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I'm a physicist so I frequently run simulations on my computer while I sleep. I guess I just assumed that a liquid cooling solution would be much quieter than a traditional air cooling system. I'll look into swapping out the motherboard.
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On December 05 2014 06:51 G0dly wrote:
I'm a physicist so I frequently run simulations on my computer while I sleep. I guess I just assumed that a liquid cooling solution would be much quieter than a traditional air cooling system. I'll look into swapping out the motherboard.
Quietest thing you can get is a big heatsink with a very low RPM fan on it
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I think a common misconception with liquid cooling is that people don't realize liquid cooling still uses fans. So regardless of which option you choose, it's going to come down mostly to the noise of the fan(s) being used. I never hear my pump when it's running.
For me the loudest thing in my system is a failing/failed HDD that clacks pretty annoyingly sometimes.
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I have a lot of fan noise from having an open case with a ton of fans, but a single ty-147@600rpm on a hr-02 macho, true spirit 140 power etc is pretty damn silent. Probably a lot quieter than case fans used, unless they're specifically quiet (and maybe noise dampened)
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I agree the biggest thing you could do to keep fans quiet (short of putting your desktop in another room) would be having a really good heatsink. Other sources of fan noise besides case fan are PSU fans (which are usually not too loud) and there are PSUs that turn off their fans if they're not under load, like the Corsair RM650 I'm using. If your machine is operating under load though I'm not sure this would actually help your situation.
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Looking at the case is an option too, fractal designs (for one) Make cases which are designed to be quiet for example, additional sound dampening material added inside etc.
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Hello guys,
I'm trying to learn current market and hopefully put together a budget gaming pc that will handle new titles for a few years. Since US dollar exchange rate is pretty high in my country, I can't just get the top notch components so trying to go budget as much as possible without sacrificing critical level performance (like you can't play X game).
Being able to play all new games for a 4+ years on 720p resolution with low settings is my main goal, since I'm not a graphics loving guy anyways. Gameplay is the most important 
I have put together a list and wish you to check it out, if it contains a wrong choice or, improvements can be made:
2x Kingston HyperX Fury Black 4GB 1600MHz DDR3 Ram @ 110$ (2x total)
ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970/SB950 AM3+ DDR3 2133MHZ (O.C.) @ 100$
Sapphire R7 260X @ 120$
AMD FX X6 6300 Socket AM3+ 3.5GHz > 105$
Other components like HDD, case etc. is not very important right now since I already some lying around. May also switch to intel motherboard + cpu if I can find a good combo.
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That is too much on the motherboard, probably, regardless of what you get. You probably want to spend more on the CPU, GPU, or both.
Unless you already have a good aftermarket CPU heatsink and are willing to overclock, I think going with a Haswell Core i3 might be a better idea. It's still better than the FX-6300 in most games and will likely stay that way, and having a socket 1150 motherboard means better upgrade options if you have to change the CPU (though still usually is never worth it). That said, you might guess that the balance of power would shift towards more slower cores and make the FX-6300 a relatively better pick in the long run.
The RAM looks a bit unfortunately expensive.
Aside from that, it looks about right.
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On December 06 2014 04:00 Myrmidon wrote:
That is too much on the motherboard, probably, regardless of what you get. You probably want to spend more on the CPU, GPU, or both.
Unless you already have a good aftermarket CPU heatsink and are willing to overclock, I think going with a Haswell Core i3 might be a better idea. It's still better than the FX-6300 in most games and will likely stay that way, and having a socket 1150 motherboard means better upgrade options if you have to change the CPU (though still usually is never worth it). That said, you might guess that the balance of power would shift towards more slower cores and make the FX-6300 a relatively better pick in the long run.
The RAM looks a bit unfortunately expensive.
Aside from that, it looks about right.
Thanks, I will look at cheaper motherboards with 1150 socket and an intel CPU. Will post when I find one.
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New graphics card has just one video output. I have two screens. Do I need to buy something extra?
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No modern graphics card comes with just one video output. Even a $30 GT 610 comes with at least two.
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It probably has a bunch of different output ports. Some combination of HDMI, DisplayPort and DVI I'd guess. If your monitors only support one of those you'll need an adapter. If your monitors support more than one of those outputs, a different cable should do the trick.
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