EPTThe defrag was just a method used by a lot of people because you can do it from within a running Windows, don't have to do a full backup and restore, or anything else that might be complicated.
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Ropid
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The defrag was just a method used by a lot of people because you can do it from within a running Windows, don't have to do a full backup and restore, or anything else that might be complicated. | ||
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triforks
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On October 06 2014 09:23 triforks wrote: So, a few questions as I will be doing a build in the next month or so. Lately I've been playing stuff like DayZ/Arma III and I'd like something that could run these at max with a decent FPS. Could I achieve that for ~1500? (desktop only, already have monitor etc) I've been messing around on my own, and the idea of stuff like 6 core i7 and DDR4 RAM seems pretty cool. Am I going way overboard though? Will a GFX 760 suit my needs? (900 series seems to be mostly sold out, should I wait for one?) Also, should I aim for 2 or 4 GB in the GFX? I got all excited and made a ~2k build on newegg. You can critique it if you want. I know I'm probably going way overboard on a few of these items. I'll post it in a bit. Ok, I took some of the advice that was posted and came up with a new build. Could you guys let me know what you think? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VN6Rqs Also someone asked about my monitor, it's a 24" BenQ RL2450HT. Thanks | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On October 07 2014 23:11 Ropid wrote: He wasn't trolling. If you defrag and use a setting that will move every single file around, this will make it so each file on the drive gets rewritten. It will then not be "old" data any more, everything will be "fresh" data and the 840 EVO will be fast again. The defrag was just a method used by a lot of people because you can do it from within a running Windows, don't have to do a full backup and restore, or anything else that might be complicated. I see, I guess that would work as a temporary fix even though it tears on the SSD a bit. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
http://www.materiel.net/carte-graphique/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-tri-x-oc-uefi-4-go-99073.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202080&cm_re=R9_290-_-14-202-080-_-Product | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 08 2014 00:08 triforks wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On October 06 2014 09:23 triforks wrote: So, a few questions as I will be doing a build in the next month or so. Lately I've been playing stuff like DayZ/Arma III and I'd like something that could run these at max with a decent FPS. Could I achieve that for ~1500? (desktop only, already have monitor etc) I've been messing around on my own, and the idea of stuff like 6 core i7 and DDR4 RAM seems pretty cool. Am I going way overboard though? Will a GFX 760 suit my needs? (900 series seems to be mostly sold out, should I wait for one?) Also, should I aim for 2 or 4 GB in the GFX? I got all excited and made a ~2k build on newegg. You can critique it if you want. I know I'm probably going way overboard on a few of these items. I'll post it in a bit. Ok, I took some of the advice that was posted and came up with a new build. Could you guys let me know what you think? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VN6Rqs Also someone asked about my monitor, it's a 24" BenQ RL2450HT. Thanks That build has some overkill parts and some parts that shouldn't be there. The Samsung 840 PRO is overpriced if you're not doing professional work with an SSD. Getting the Crucial MX100 256 Gb SSD is much better. It costs the same. That motherboard is fine for overclocking but it's also much too expensive. You can get Gigabyte's GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 motherboard and achieve pretty much the same thing, for way less money spent. The RM650 is bad. Well, it's not BAD, but it's horribly expensive for what it is, that unit has bad capacitors in it as well as inadequate cooling (source). Just get the Cooler Master V650, which is not only a gorgeous PSU in terms of everything, but it also has a 15% promo code on newegg right now, an excellent deal. Also note that for a rig such as this one, 650W PSU is hardcore overkill, but by getting this PSU, you can do GTX 970 SLI with max overclocks in the future. Given your budget, getting this PSU is an easy choice to make. If you don't care for SLI in the future, you can make do with a good 450W unit (Capstone 450 in this case). 16 Gb of RAM is overkill unless you know you're going to need it. If you aren't sure whether or not you need 16 Gb of RAM, it means that 8 Gb will be more than enough. This is the same build you posted but revised. Notice how it's cheaper: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Mqy499 I left the AIO CPU cooler since that is your choice to make. You could get a high-end air cooler but if you want to go for a closed loop you'll be fine. I also don't know much about that case, all I can ask is whether or not you chose that case specifically. If you didn't, well, there are lots of very nice cases to choose from these days anyway (Phanteks Enthoo Pro). | ||
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Firkraag8
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Ropid
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Firkraag8
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On October 08 2014 04:18 Ropid wrote: I just looked that up. That Core V71 case has dust filter on all sides where you might want to have intake fans (front, top, bottom). Still, the holes which is everywhere on the case will get filled with dust anyways if one wanted to say wipe it off it'll work much better on a surface that is flat. That mesh surface while it looks cool doesn't seem practical, the dust filters are behind it even? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I'd hope a brush would be good enough for the front to make that look clean. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On October 08 2014 00:08 triforks wrote: Ok, I took some of the advice that was posted and came up with a new build. Could you guys let me know what you think? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VN6Rqs Also someone asked about my monitor, it's a 24" BenQ RL2450HT. Thanks Stuff said above, also only get 4790k over a 4690k if you actually want Hyperthreading, because HT actually does lower average OC slightly while only helping if it's utilized | ||
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Kupon3ss
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Cyro
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Btw guys a few benchmarks for 970, msi gaming set to minimum sustained fan speeds (570rpm) Unfortunately i'm lacking some controls so it's not as good as it could be. The stock voltage is rather high (gives me 1315mhz when i can run 1516 on it) but undervolt controls are not working right now, and clock offsets don't apply when you're below boost clock ranges so i can't adjust it and see if there's room for lower volts etc. 50% power limit - reporting ~57% under load, memory set to 6000mhz, core hovering around 1040: (max temp 54c) ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/c3u1z.png) --- I tried to target under 70c here, but i missed slightly. 83% power limit, core hovering around 1450mhz, memory at 7800mhz - with a ~70-75% power limit it would much more easily stay under 70c for very long periods of load. Max temp ~73-74c there. ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/c3uff.png) Ignore the reported core clock speeds, they've been wrong for a ton of people on 700/900 series cards (not even close) and i'm quoting the correct speeds I think you can easily get a system with something like a hr-02 macho, 2 case fans, an msi gaming 970 and then run everything at 600rpm with sound dampening and get pretty insane performance. This is just using dynamic clock speeds and voltages automatically set by gpu boost 2.0 controlled through target power, it seems very effective and easy to use. | ||
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Dingodile
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I found a nice yt video, should I just "copy&paste" from that video? I dont need to go 3.4 or 4.0 but If I feel the difference already at ~3.1Ghz (example: playing sc2 or d3) thats pretty nice without paying new stuff for my pc. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On October 08 2014 07:41 Dingodile wrote: I never did OC. I have amd x6 1055T 2.8Ghz. It's worth to overclock? I've heard you can go to 3.4Ghz or 4.0Ghz with that cpu. What about increased power consumption? I found a nice yt video, should I just "copy&paste" from that video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tCqg3uDjQ I dont need to go 3.4 or 4.0 but If I feel the difference already at ~3.1Ghz (example: playing sc2 or d3) thats pretty nice without paying new stuff for my pc. Don't follow a youtube video, maybe follow a guide on www.overclock.net. You need a suitable motherboard and cooling. For those CPU's, many mobo's allow you to OC, but not all of them are suited for it, some are various levels of good etc. You'd probably hardly notice a 10% performance gain. 20-50% is where it really starts to be a big deal. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
Image: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mlJPDmb.jpg) Neither the CPU or GPU is overclocked and I haven't formatted the computer since upgrading from 670 to 980 I think I'll wait for Windows 10.  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On October 08 2014 08:04 Firkraag8 wrote: Decided to benchmark the 980 too, don't know if this is good or bad but it was a bit odd that my lowest point was 8fps something must have activated in the background for a split second or something: Image: + Show Spoiler + Neither the CPU or GPU is overclocked and I haven't formatted the computer since upgrading from 670 to 980 I think I'll wait for Windows 10. Clock it up, i've hit 84.4 on a 970 when i'm not power limited but 82fps or a hair over is easy to reproduce :D Your temp says 80c. At about 74-79c, they start to throttle away from boost clocks. I had no trouble staying waaaaaaay below those values with twin frozr 5 cooler. I think most or all of these cards can set 8000mhz memory without big issues, but you start to get very small errors and artifacts that can be invisible to human eye, i've been using the OCCT gpu 3d test, with a tdp limit so that my core clock runs lower and nowhere near power limit (it's a very power intensive test) and memory clock stays high. That tells you easily where errors are getting through and where they are not + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T6qgttn.png) ^errors fast at 4000mhz (*2 = 8000mhz effective) but none for 10 min test on 3900mhz (7800) | ||
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triforks
United States370 Posts
I just checked and my microcenter has 5820 for 299 :o | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kzyKNG I'm not buying a new GPU with this, as I already have one I have bought fairly recently, which is a Radeon R9 270. The thing I'm most concerned about with this build is whether or not the Heat Sink will be too big for my case. The thing is big as hell in its preview picture, at least. I suppose the same goes for my Power Supply as well, since I'm wondering if it would fit in my case gracefully. And I guess as an extra, I'll have two free slots of RAM with this build, and I have some extra 2 GB sticks of memory from my current machine. Would it be a bad idea to run like two 8GB sticks and then two 2GB sticks of memory? | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On October 08 2014 08:37 triforks wrote: If I were to go the route of 5820 and DDR4, which X99 motherboard should I use? Would I be fine with just one of the cheaper ASRock ones? I just checked and my microcenter has 5820 for 299 :o Since all the current X99 boards are high end ones I'd imagine asrock would be fine Even if you don't feel confident there are several good choices from vendors like Asus and Gigabyte in the ~250 range such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132261&cm_re=x99-_-13-132-261-_-Product http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128751&cm_re=x99-_-13-128-751-_-Product | ||
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