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On October 05 2014 15:29 Myrmidon wrote:
What's the computer being used for?
Is there a site you can link or list of other options and prices?
Only thing I can say now is that the computer is sub-150W and there's a 650W power supply for whatever reason that's a low-end model. You're better off with something more passable (built in a less cost-cut design, junky parts), even if the wattage listed is lower.
Thanks for the input.
The computer is mainly used for internet surfing, gaming and university work.
I only really play Dota 2,Hearthstone,SC2 and some Diablo 3.
http://www.lowyat.net/pc-hardware-pricelist-c-zone/
http://images-cdn.lowyat.net/pricelists/PCHardware/C-Zone/pchardware-czone.pdf
Lowyat is a mall in my country that specialized in selling PC hardwares.
So my build is not optimal?
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@Fakedeath, why do you need 16 Gb of RAM? also list retailers :D Otherwise, yeah, your PSU isn't adapted. List retailers and we'll find you a better one.
@Cyro, I raise you. + Show Spoiler +20°C ambient temperature with side panel on (1000 rpm being inaudible compared to system fans either way). ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7IfWRlU.png)
E: @Fakedeath
You can use, with an i5 4690 and a GTX 750 Ti, the Corsair VS450, easily. Otherwise, I don't see the purpose of getting 16 Gb of RAM, unless you have a very specific reason. Otherwise, things look OK. Not sure how good the Zalman Z5 is, but it should get the job done. You don't have a motherboard though, you'll be needing one.
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@Cyro, I raise you
1078rpm fan speed. I was at 0RPM :D
The GTX 970 was good, not only for people who got GTX 970s for their rigs, but also for everyone else
With the 970 release, nvidia immediately cut prices for 780ti in UK, windforce model went £500 to £350 (with msi gaming 970 being £280). It's good to see 290 pricecut finally :D Being 10% more expensive or so minimum than 970 wasn't good for them
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Ok so, I'mma post this here since this issue seems to be a bit extraordinary. 
''So I bought a Benq XL2411Z, and it's truly great. Before this however, I was using an Ilyama 24'' HD screen and I plan to use it as my secondary monitor now The problem is, it stopped working.
It stopped working halfway through installing the software (Display Pilot) for my BenQ monitor (which allows more in depth calibration etc. The screen simply turned black. I'm using a DVI cable for my Benq and was using an HDMI cable for my Illyama, which was working fine up 'til now. Here's the weird part though:
It still has power, and still turns on saying ''no signal'' before going on standby again. Both windows and Catalyst Control Center recognise the Monitor and it's model. It's just the monitor that doesn't want to turn on. I have tried if the HDMI cable was faulty and have tried connecting my monitor to my PC with a VGA cable. That didn't work and gave the same result. I also tried connecting the HDMI cable between my laptop and TV, which worked, so the fault is not with the HDMI cable, but with the screen or graphics card. I've been using 2 screens for a while, although my secondary monitor used to be an old 4:3 panel. My graphics card is a Radeon HD 6950 and it does support up to 3 monitors at least, so there is no issue there. I've even tried using the cable that came with my BenQ between my monitor and the PC; no luck there.
What could be the issue? Is it dead, all of a sudden and am I out of luck?
Thanks in advance!''
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On October 05 2014 16:49 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 05 2014 15:29 Myrmidon wrote:
What's the computer being used for?
Is there a site you can link or list of other options and prices?
Only thing I can say now is that the computer is sub-150W and there's a 650W power supply for whatever reason that's a low-end model. You're better off with something more passable (built in a less cost-cut design, junky parts), even if the wattage listed is lower. Thanks for the input. The computer is mainly used for internet surfing, gaming and university work. I only really play Dota 2,Hearthstone,SC2 and some Diablo 3. http://www.lowyat.net/pc-hardware-pricelist-c-zone/http://images-cdn.lowyat.net/pricelists/PCHardware/C-Zone/pchardware-czone.pdfLowyat is a mall in my country that specialized in selling PC hardwares. So my build is not optimal?
Overall it makes sense for what you need. I would stick with 8 GB of RAM, upgrade the low-end Corsair VS650 to a more reliable Seasonic M12II 520W (if you desperately need to save money, I'd take the Silverstone Strider Essential over the Corsair VS, but it's not much better), maybe take the Plextor M5S to save money (it's also good, fine). How is Leadtek support in your area compared to others? I might consider the Asus GTX 750 Ti or Sapphire R7 260X instead.
You didn't specify the motherboard earlier.
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So, a few questions as I will be doing a build in the next month or so.
Lately I've been playing stuff like DayZ/Arma III and I'd like something that could run these at max with a decent FPS.
Could I achieve that for ~1500? (desktop only, already have monitor etc)
I've been messing around on my own, and the idea of stuff like 6 core i7 and DDR4 RAM seems pretty cool. Am I going way overboard though? Will a GFX 760 suit my needs? (900 series seems to be mostly sold out, should I wait for one?) Also, should I aim for 2 or 4 GB in the GFX?
I got all excited and made a ~2k build on newegg. You can critique it if you want. I know I'm probably going way overboard on a few of these items. I'll post it in a bit.
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Fill out information in the OP, what monitor(s) you're using.
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On October 06 2014 09:23 triforks wrote:
So, a few questions as I will be doing a build in the next month or so.
Lately I've been playing stuff like DayZ/Arma III and I'd like something that could run these at max with a decent FPS.
Could I achieve that for ~1500? (desktop only, already have monitor etc)
I've been messing around on my own, and the idea of stuff like 6 core i7 and DDR4 RAM seems pretty cool. Am I going way overboard though? Will a GFX 760 suit my needs? (900 series seems to be mostly sold out, should I wait for one?) Also, should I aim for 2 or 4 GB in the GFX?
I got all excited and made a ~2k build on newegg. You can critique it if you want. I know I'm probably going way overboard on a few of these items. I'll post it in a bit.
You have a limited budget and those games would run faster on 4 fast cores than 6 marginally slower ones that cost a looooot more. 6-core i7 with a 760 is a very imbalanced system for gaming.
A 970 would be twice as fast and it's only midrange for the "next gen" after 2012 tier GPU's.
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Max Arma 3?
Get a GTX 970. Getting the Gigabyte G1 card is probably the best. If if it's sold out it's because the card is a beast. After that, getting a fast processor is your priority for gaming, so you're looking at a 4690k or a 4790k with a good overclock on it. To overclock such processors you'll need a strong aftermarket CPU cooler and a Z97 motherboard.
You're also looking at a ~450-500 W PSU: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/11
All these things fit in your budget easily.
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the G1 is the best, but it's not really worth paying a ton extra for IMO. I didn't find the power limit or the weaker VRM cooling on the MSI Gaming 970 to limit me at all so far, and if it's a lot cheaper it's better to get that IMO - just because they -are- upper-midrange cards, even if it's redefining what midrange is. 5-10% extra i'd consider it, more then not really. I thought i'd regret compromising and getting this card but i don't at all
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The Strix is pretty bad, it's not the best at core cooling, still has bad VRM cooling, and also it has power limit of ~196w for the whole card, while the MSI has 220w and the giga has 280w.
Power limits on 970's range from about 160w to that 280w, and 220 on the MSI card is low enough to clip away slightly at some power intensive benchmarks at max overclocks.
6% is totally worth g1, i would have had to pay double that price difference and still considered it a lot
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AMD dropped prices again to be better price/performance again in that range. Doesn't need to be a GTX 970 as long as you're not interested in the better power efficiency, CUDA, G-Sync, NVEnc, PhysX (lol?) or whatever else.
That said, Arma 3 seems to favor Nvidia relatively? You'd probably still want to pay the premium for a GTX 970 over an R9 290 for certain things. (edit: that is, at close to the $330 level the 970 is supposed to be at)
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On October 06 2014 14:16 Cyro wrote:
The Strix is pretty bad, it's not the best at core cooling, still has bad VRM cooling, and also it has power limit of ~196w for the whole card, while the MSI has 220w and the giga has 280w.
Power limits on 970's range from about 160w to that 280w, and 220 on the MSI card is low enough to clip away slightly at some power intensive benchmarks at max overclocks.
6% is totally worth g1, i would have had to pay double that price difference and still considered it a lot
Ah so that's why those are the better cards. I should read reviews more carefully, my bad.
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Since I'm still waiting for gpu's to come in stock, I might have a little extra budget to squeeze in a 980 gtx in addition to getting a 1440p monitor for christmas. Currently have a 550w rosewill capstone and a i5-4690k, is that enough head room for overclocking (mildly, no more than like 10% probably)
How will a gtx 970 do at 1440p if I plan to just get the monitor instead of both that and the gpu?
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On October 06 2014 23:46 KOFgokuon wrote:
Since I'm still waiting for gpu's to come in stock, I might have a little extra budget to squeeze in a 980 gtx in addition to getting a 1440p monitor for christmas. Currently have a 550w rosewill capstone and a i5-4690k, is that enough head room for overclocking (mildly, no more than like 10% probably)
How will a gtx 970 do at 1440p if I plan to just get the monitor instead of both that and the gpu?
The GTX 970 is better than the GTX 980 in terms of performance per price. A quality 450W PSU is more than enough to overclock a GTX 970 as far as it can go, so your Capstone will be fine (you could SLI GTX 970 no problem).
A GTX 970 should do quite well at 1440p, look up some reviews.
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I'm looking for some advice on running a third monitor. I'm not trying to do any fancy three monitor gaming. I pretty much run league/dota on one screen, and I have a stream / video on the second. I want a third screen for web browsing / media control while running two full screens.
I'm currently running a single GTX 460. My motherboard has a second PCI-E slot, but only supports Cross fire, no SLI (didn't realize this when I bought the board). If it had SLI it would be a simple matter of slapping a second 460 in and calling it a day.
Now I'm looking for options. Upgrading to a GTX 970 is a possibility, though expensive.
If I wanted to stay cheap, I've read that the possibilities are:
a) put a second graphics card, any graphics card into my second PCI-e slot. This sends sketchy to me, I can't imagine two graphics cards playing nice in this way.
b) use some sketchy USB-DVI type device (I've heard these are pretty much terrible).
Anybody have any advice or experience in this area?
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Using more than one graphics card works in current Windows.
Do you have integrated graphics in your CPU+motherboard? That also works. You just have to activate it manually in the BIOS because it turns itself off on the default setting if there's a graphics card installed.
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On October 06 2014 23:46 KOFgokuon wrote:
Since I'm still waiting for gpu's to come in stock, I might have a little extra budget to squeeze in a 980 gtx in addition to getting a 1440p monitor for christmas. Currently have a 550w rosewill capstone and a i5-4690k, is that enough head room for overclocking (mildly, no more than like 10% probably)
How will a gtx 970 do at 1440p if I plan to just get the monitor instead of both that and the gpu?
Probably a little than a 780.
It's almost funny for you to be concerned about a haswell quad core and gm204 on a 550w capstone.
If you try -really, really hard- with like 1.45v on the CPU and max overvolt on GPU simultaneously fully loaded with hard drives and fans etc you might be able to hit 400-450w from the PSU from entire system, but it's more likely you'd be at 325-350 peaks. I'd feel comfortable running SLI 970's on one of these 550w psu's (just not at max oc's) - you can run them at 1000mhz with a 110 watt power limit for the whole card (including vram and fans)
I should read reviews more carefully, my bad.
lol you said nothing that was wrong at all, it's an ok card it just has notable reasons to not be at the top of recommendations list IMO. Just my impressions :D
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