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What's the budget for your PSU and uh...this might be a stupid question but where's your case? lol
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:D does case has anything to do with power supply?
in any case thats the case Corsair Carbide Series Air 200R Compact ATX Case fits ATX (CC-9011023-WW)
I will pay anything thats required but I hale 650W was already high end so I think it should be cheaper
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That case is fine if you get a good price for it.
For that set up, a 400-450W PSU will do. Easily. You have to find a good quality one though. There's not a lot of choice on that site. I might recommend going for Corsair something, though not their CX series. Not sure about the VS series but they don't look that hot either (try looking for some reviews though).
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VS is worse than CX. I don't know about Corsair as a blanket recommendation because the prices are rarely that competitive outside of CX and maybe VS.
Case does matter in that some (mostly all small form factor designs) don't support standard size power supplies. Actually, some don't support long ones in the normal form factor.
NZXT Hale82 modular version is pretty good but probably more expensive than is required because of the overkill wattage. Thermaltake Smart SE 630W is definitely not as good.
Actually, now that I look at this site, I've seen it before and already identified that everything cheaper than the Hale82 is significantly worse. If you want to save money, possibly Silverstone ST40F-ES, but that's not very good. Normally one would think it should be half of the price of Hale82 650W or less. edit: of course, if they want to charge you for Hale82 750W at ฿3,250, don't do that.
Some of the options around or above ฿2,000 might be decent (but would be very surprising if very good), but nobody sends them to reviewers because they're cheap models they don't want reviewed.
edit: if not Hale82... Smart SE isn't reviewed either, and 35C rating / Aishi main capacitor as seen from picture on Thermaltake's site, sleeve-bearing fan, etc., indicate it's probably not worth the price. The price is too high and the quality not like the Hale82, but the Thermaltake TR-600P is okay. Again, they don't stock TR-500P or TR-450P for cheaper.
err... actually, that Aerocool Strike-X 500W is passable (yet another Andyson build a little bit short in terms of rated efficiency, barebones and group regulated, but not built that poorly and nothing out of the ordinary), definitely above Corsair VS. Yeah, actually, go for that.
edit2: Wait, I just remembered that Cooler Master G500 would be known as i500 in other parts of the world. Might be worth it. Different branding for different regions. So similar to this and thus okay but nothing special still:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5539/cooler-master-i700-700-watt-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-review/index.html
They sure have a wide selection of mediocre power supplies. Usually you see worse power supplies for sale and also better ones, even within that price range. 
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again myrmiddon you save my ass, so I should go for G500 (its available for 2,290bht which makes it pretty good choice)
also happy I went for cheaper not overclocking build because I dont really feel like playing around right now and I saved so much money;)
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Just found out that my Samsung EVO SSD does not come with the attachment cable... Where would I get SATA 6gb cable from?
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On January 18 2014 15:20 skyR wrote:
Motherboard
He means the box your motherboard comes in often comes with things like sata cables etc. Else you can buy them individually at your local electronics store.
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((my bad for not posting in the proper area))
Building a new computer after deciding to upgrade from the torture that is my low end laptop. I've helped a friend build one before, but I'm not up to date on the go to hardware for my price range (600-800) as I want to finally taste 60 frames on my favorite games (New generation MMOs, FPS/Sc2 naturally).
Any advice would be appreciated, and I referred to the guide for compatability, and managed to find a HD that wasn't as over priced as the damn WD black. I'm also interested in overclocking in the future, hence the 3570k. Thank you for your time.
Newegg shopping card:--v
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CASE: Antec Three Hundred Black Mid $69
HD: Western Digital 1TB blue sata6.0gbs $64.99
GPU: EVGA Superclocked GTX 760 2gb $259.99
PSU: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80+ gold $89
MEMORY: G.Skil Ripjaw 8gb ddr3 $84.99
MOBO: MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 intel Z77 $79.99
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4ghz quad $229.99
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Any particular reason you're going for an Ivy Bridge over Haswell? Especially for SC2, where Haswell's better IPC is pretty relevant, I don't see a reason not to go with the newest generation. If you're going to overclock, you also need an aftermarket cooler or else all the extra money spent on a better board will be wasted since you'll be thermal limited fast.
Rosewill Capstone is nice but get the 450W version since 650W is overkill for a single GPU system.
Otherwise not much to say, nice little rig you have there. The case is always something subjective, not sure how good the Antec 300 as a case is. There's an older version for $10 less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Up to you.
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On January 18 2014 18:23 EMIYA wrote:+ Show Spoiler +((my bad for not posting in the proper area))
Building a new computer after deciding to upgrade from the torture that is my low end laptop. I've helped a friend build one before, but I'm not up to date on the go to hardware for my price range (600-800) as I want to finally taste 60 frames on my favorite games (New generation MMOs, FPS/Sc2 naturally).
Any advice would be appreciated, and I referred to the guide for compatability, and managed to find a HD that wasn't as over priced as the damn WD black. I'm also interested in overclocking in the future, hence the 3570k. Thank you for your time.
Newegg shopping card:--v
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CASE: Antec Three Hundred Black Mid $69
HD: Western Digital 1TB blue sata6.0gbs $64.99
GPU: EVGA Superclocked GTX 760 2gb $259.99
PSU: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80+ gold $89
MEMORY: G.Skil Ripjaw 8gb ddr3 $84.99
MOBO: MSI Z77A-G41 LGA 1155 intel Z77 $79.99
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4ghz quad $229.99
You have no aftermarket heatsink for overclocking. I guess you can add this later if you're super strapped for cash. But don't expect much from a G41 since it's a low end board with a weak VRM and very limited BIOS.
Antec Three Hundred isn't that good at $70. I'd get a Fractal Design Define R4, Antec P280, Antec P100, Corsair Carbide 330R, Corsair Graphite 230T, etc for not much more / same price. All much better cases.
Z77 G41 does not support SLI if that's what you plan on doing with the 650w power supply. If you're not doing SLI then get the Capstone 450w.
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Yea def haswell and also aftermarket cooler (or drop the k cpu and z chipset motherboard), ~450w for single 760, 550 for dual
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I really don't see the niche for this
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IX6UOpb.jpg)
when this is priced £5 higher
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A4CDpGE.jpg)
unless for some reason you want integrated graphics that suck, but don't suck as much, when both are capable of running basic games (like sc2 on low) and neither are close to capable of any real punch
this launch price is suicide 
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7850k is only £5 cheaper than a 4770k? Haha, that's pretty bad.
I just don't like Kaveri. The A8 7600 seems to be a bit better priced and better overall, since its performance approaches that of the 7850k but without the extravagant price. However, it can't be overclocked.
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On January 18 2014 20:45 Incognoto wrote:
7850k is only £5 cheaper than a 4770k? Haha, that's pretty bad.
I just don't like Kaveri. The A8 7600 seems to be a bit better priced and better overall, since its performance approaches that of the 7850k but without the extravagant price. However, it can't be overclocked.
Couldn't believe they put the price up ~33 dollars for 2 module cpu, and removed unlock to price the cheaper versions lower. Seen so many people flame intel for doing that (amd fans) but it's exactly the same here, only in lower price segment. I mean only days before, i was reading arguments that the $173 was just inflated because it was an msrp - and now it's ~$180-190 depending on the shop in US, and even more expensive relative here
7850k is only £5 cheaper than a 4770k?
4670k, that bench is 4c/4t. HT takes the MT up to.. 975 range? But 4770k is more expensive and it's harder to clock them like this. My CPU is pretty average and i can pull 4.7@~1.36-1.37 completely fine without the added 15c from ht:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qKhQgZm.png)
From what i've seen Kaveri can't consistently clock as high as richland - it seems basically the same as haswell i5 for air oc, though i don't have that much data yet
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Heavily OpenCL (or other) -accelerated workloads? SFF super-HTPC / mid gaming comp?
Everybody gets it with respect to legacy x86 code. AMD's still getting crushed. No surprise there.
By the way, is there anything on Kaveri that's limiting BCLK overclocking? You can still overclock the non-k versions, right...?
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By the way, is there anything on Kaveri that's limiting BCLK overclocking? You can still overclock the non-k versions, right...?
It's 3.3 base, 3.8 boost, but the non-k version (7600) has only 384 gcn cores. I didn't see any bclk ocing yet
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I read somewhere you can bclk a non-k suffix intel processor but that it's not recommended.
Not that I care to try. I don't need 0.5 extra Ghz. Though I downclocked my 4670 to 1.0 Ghz for fun. It was quite slow.
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Ever since Sandy Bridge, they made k-suffix stuff a big deal because they consolidated various clocks for simplicity / efficiency, meaning more system components driven off (via multipliers) the same clock signal. So if you're raising the clock, you're also raising the clock on PCIe bus, other stuff, etc., that breaks them, unlike with all the previous systems. You can still raise it somewhat on Intel but not by much because it's affecting all these other subsystems.
It used to be that everybody BCLK overclocked everything. Unlocked multiplier just gave you more options and/or more chances to succeed what with avoiding having to change RAM frequencies to maybe things it can't handle (or else take a big hit on RAM clocks by lowering the ratio).
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