EPTEx:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd20eurx?history_days=180
from amazon: Same size, bigger cache, and cheaper by $20
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
Ex: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd20eurx?history_days=180 from amazon: Same size, bigger cache, and cheaper by $20 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
On January 14 2014 14:36 Rodrek wrote: I've been looking into a new computer and after checking out a few things... With the help of a few friends I finally decided to spend more money then i should, the total is around 1200~ish . Are there any parts that i can sidegrade or upgrade or do better with? CPU:Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899&clickid=Vw3w3qTm8RCfws2TiaT97xVLUkT1LE1Sh0BxWA0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&clickid=Vw3w3qTm8RCfws2TiaT97xVLUkT1LEyzh0BxWA0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979&clickid=Vw3w3qTm8RCfws2TiaT97xVLUkT1LEUbh0BxWA0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Memory (Desktop Memory)-_-G.SKILL-_-20231468&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID= Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239045&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Solid State Disk-_-Kingston HyperX-_-20239045&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID= Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002XHLLH4/?tag=pcpapi-20 Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161442&clickid=Vw3w3qTm8RCfws2TiaT97xVLUkT1LB0Sh0BxWA0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153&clickid=Vw3w3qTm8RCfws2TiaT97xVLUkT1LBzzh0BxWA0&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=79301&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438006&clickid=Vw3w3qT Why are you spending so much on that mobo over something like the z87x-d3h? Lot of investing into getting OC i5 (cpu, mobo), but you have weak cooling (hyper 212) $120 750w PSU for a build that consumes less than half of that >peak<? If you want to overkill, that should be a capstone ~450m (@$60) or 550 (for two 270x's) or something similar, if you don't want overkill, you can save more than just $60 $85 is kinda a lot for a RAM kit that's probably not a lot better than random 1600c9, if you want decent RAM and don't know what to look for just search in 2133c9 / 2400c10 area. Probably best to just find a cheap 1600c9 kit though, because RAM doesn't affect most stuff | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
$729 without GPU or CPU cooler - maybe a bit more if bought from the same shops etc, and not counting rebates (spent like $17 extra on RAM for that kit; probably not super important) some GPU options: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-R927D2O&c=CJ - $190 (bit worse than 270x.. but waaay better price performance than some $240 270x model, they're close in performance) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932 - $250 (stronger but costlier gpu, nvidia) | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
Also, unless you're bitcoin mining, you might as well get the GTX 760 instead of the 270X. It's around the same price but you get some free games and the 760 scores higher than the 270X on GPUBoss.com | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8754569&CatId=7182 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113359 hope it's worth 180/190.. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/KAVERI-APU/KAVERI-APU-57.jpg) Looking pretty good but i'm curious for OC headroom. Haswell not doing quite as well as it should there i think, because of old encoder version, but only a few % off. As for piledriver to steamroller, assuming both are running at turbo speeds, it shows ~21% IPC gain in x264 Edit: I checked. The encoder in x264 bench download is literally from may 2012 - should be mostly ok for comparisons sake, apart from lacking ~5% ipc gain from avx2 on the haswell chips and other optimizations In our very limited time with the A10-7850K before publishing we ran a quick overclocking test and were easily able to hit 5.0GHz on the A88X using air cooling. More results to follow in future articles... If that's close to true, >20% IPC increase is awesome Edit2: Not as big IPC increase in other areas. ![[image loading]](http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/KAVERI-APU/KAVERI-APU-67.jpg) ^400mhz clock disadvantage (4000 vs 4400) but neck and neck with 6800k stock vs stock | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 12 2014 21:33 Cyro wrote: ..for previous vg248qe owners, before a ton of monitors with native g-sync support built in release in q1 and q2  Will be nice, but i found that almost all of the cheering support for it comes from people that don't realize: It doesn't work on any desktop screen on the market and never will It doesn't work on any current GPU and likely never will There is no release window Once you get past those things, it seems likely that there will be a window of like a year where Nvidia has exclusive support for variable refresh rate and can charge extra for it, until dp1.3 is standard on both monitors and GPU's, variable vblank whatever is sorted out on screens, at which point they'll take away license fee or use the same method Freesync doesn't work as well as G-sync, freesync just isn't as accurate of a method. Plus AMD seems really keen on triple buffering. Plus even if we get monitors to support it, which no monitors do currently and DP 1.3 gets some features as standard instead of recommendations, either way free sync would be 1-2 years away at the quickest for desktop monitors. G-Sync GPU drives VBI; FreeSync driver speculates VBI. Similar, but one is superior to the other. FreeSync becomes more accurate as you render more frames ahead and buffer. G-Sync would be the lowest lag while removing tearing. Granted they should fix the soft zone for that specific Asus monitor the 25-30 fps that some reason disables G-sync. Since both require changes to monitors i rather have G-sync than freesync from a technical standpoint even though i doubt nvidia will push to licenses out the product or AMD willing to pay for it's use. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
G-Sync would be the lowest lag while removing tearing. Granted they should fix the soft zone for that specific Asus monitor the 25-30 fps that some reason disables G-sync. They said that weird stuff happens if you just don't refresh the monitor for too long, and you can't go far longer than ~33.3ms without a refresh | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
the regedit thing with msahci, yes I have 0 there (like before). asrock 870 extreme3 | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 15 2014 02:11 Cyro wrote: They said that weird stuff happens if you just don't refresh the monitor for too long, and you can't go far longer than ~33.3ms without a refresh They also said they didn't enable G-sync for older GPU's because of special logic they are using for SLI set ups that doesn't exist in the older gpus, which i don't get why not just bring it over and not support SLI. Sometimes i don't get nvidia. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
On January 15 2014 02:13 Dingodile wrote: Hello, I need a detailed explanation for dummy's how I switch from IDE to AHCI for my SSD. I did but Samsung Magician says that my SSD hasn't AHCI. the regedit thing with msahci, yes I have 0 there (like before). asrock 870 extreme3 Not sure here On January 15 2014 03:25 semantics wrote: They also said they didn't enable G-sync for older GPU's because of special logic they are using for SLI set ups that doesn't exist in the older gpus, which i don't get why not just bring it over and not support SLI. Sometimes i don't get nvidia. They added hardware frame pacing stuff with kepler IIRC (somewhat relating to sli) - so they could just be using that for g-sync. | ||
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Rodrek
United States14 Posts
On January 14 2014 15:43 Cyro wrote: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2B03G $729 without GPU or CPU cooler - maybe a bit more if bought from the same shops etc, and not counting rebates (spent like $17 extra on RAM for that kit; probably not super important) some GPU options: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-R927D2O&c=CJ - $190 (bit worse than 270x.. but waaay better price performance than some $240 270x model, they're close in performance) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932 - $250 (stronger but costlier gpu, nvidia) What kind of cpu cooler would i need? Also thanks for the build and the clarification(It is honestly damn near perfect for me with costs and preformance)... my friends tend to go expensive.I plan to go with the asus Radeon r9 270 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On January 15 2014 10:27 Rodrek wrote: What kind of cpu cooler would i need? Also thanks for the build and the clarification(It is honestly damn near perfect for me with costs and preformance)... my friends tend to go expensive.I plan to go with the asus Radeon r9 270 May I ask why you like the R9 270X over the GTX 760? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 15 2014 11:49 wptlzkwjd wrote: May I ask why you like the R9 270X over the GTX 760? It's probably the $60 difference in price. The 760 does beat the R9 270 but it's also more expensive. However there's no reason to get a 270X at $240 when you can get a 760 at $250. The 760 is faster than the 270X by a reasonable margin. You still lack a heatsink in that build. If you're getting a 4670k and a Z87X-D3H, you need an aftermarket cooler or else you won't really be able to overclock. It should cost between $50 and $70 for a mid-high end cooler. Overall the cost of overclocking that 4670k would be $(15+80+60) ie $155 (4670k over 4670, Z87 over H81, aftermarket heatsink over stock). This allows you to overclock your CPU from 3.8 GHz to 4.3+ GHz, depending on how good your chip is and how much time you spend overclocking it. It's up to you whether or not you really need to overclock. Some people see it as a kind of hobby, constantly tweaking parametres and running tests or benchmarks. It can be a highly time consuming process. Most people who overclock enjoy doing so, they see it as a sport, trying to get as much GHz from their silicon as possible. Well, if you've decided you don't need to overclock, that extra money can be thrown into a beefier GPU. :D Been looking at Kaveri and I have to say, the A8 7600 looks like a nice chip. $119 for an APU that can play Skyrim and other games at 1080p with decent settings and FPS. 7850k looks overpriced to me, but the 7600, damn, looks rather fine. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
GF GTX650 1Gb GDDR5 MSI (N650-1GD5/OC v1)+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://enter.biz.ua/pictures/40888/162321.jpg) vs GF GTX650 1Gb GDDR5 ASUS (GTX650-DC-1GD5)+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://enter.biz.ua/pictures/39289/161555.jpg) | ||
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Flaiker
Germany235 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:16 Flaiker wrote: Hello, a friend of mine asked me to build a pc for him, so I come here for some suggestions  What is your budget? 800€ (~1092USD) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Media, webbrowsing, msoffice Do you intend to overclock? No Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Generally Intel prefered over AMD in CPU, but not by much GPU AMD and Nvidia are equally prefered What country will you be buying your parts in? Germany If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Some German retailers I can suggest: www.hardwareversand.de , www.mindfactory.de ; www.geizhals.at/de is a good search engine for german retailers If you need more infos or I did sth wrong please dont hesitate to tell me. On January 14 2014 06:33 Incognoto wrote: What games you going to play? That budget got me an i5 4670 on a B85 board hooked up to a 7970. Though I didn't need the OS. Most modern games I guess. He couldn't really give me an answer to that when I asked, because he did not have a pc for gaming before. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=8572929&sku=B69-1750 For your discussion pleasure, it's an i5 4670k, Asus Z87A, 2x4GB Ram, 1 TB HDD, case with PSU, for $559 ($499 after rebate.) Not sure it's worth it. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
i5-4670 - $220 Asus Z87A - $140 (depending on user, could get something cheaper) Patriot 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz - $60 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB - $60 Ultra Gladiator - $40 Ultra LSP 650W - $0 (maybe not fair as it can be used as on occasional backup for troubleshooting) $520 total, though the above valuation is on the meaner side. The four rebates to fill out for $500 on the combo are kind of meh. | ||
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sechkie
United States334 Posts
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/ASUS-Zenbook-Touch-UX31LA-UH51T-Touchscreen-Ultrabook/productID.288024700 It's the Asus Venbook UX31LA with the i54200u. with a 13.3 inch 1080p display The build also seems to be high quality as well. I'm just looking for something with which I can watch youtube videos and stream movies as well as something light to carry around at school. I also find this laptop aesthetically pleasing to me. Any suggestions? | ||
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