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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I'm aware that mineral oil does not conduct electicity and the keyboard will still work. The problem is oil isn't exactly comfortable, and possible issues of viscosity on the switches, and what to clean it with. Put it in the dishwasher then let dry? Clean with IPA, damp towel, dry towel, water, soapy water? Thanks. ps - i know mineral oil doesnt conduct electricity. this isn't water. | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
and http://imgur.com/a/AqhIZ#0 ripsters cleaning guide  | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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magicmUnky
Australia280 Posts
that first guide covers it all | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
http://www.overclock.net/t/774841/how-to-remove-mineral-oil-from-system-parts-safely/40 1. Soak in pure alcohol, 2. air dry. Never tried it myself, but in principle it looks doable, as long as you let the keyboard dry completely before connecting to power. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Soak the whole keyboard in it. And push all of the keys a lot, like maybe a couple hundreds presses per key. | ||
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Tanukki
Finland579 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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ripster
United States64 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/150w3p/spilled_mineral_oil_onto_mechanical_keyboard/ Good luck. Post at /r/MechanicalKeyboards the results. ProTip: First do a solvent test by pouring half mineral oil and half Isopropyl 70% and shake! | ||
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I took apart my keyboard. Also, check out my switches. Maybe it's just wayyy too much mineral oil in them and just needs to be rubbed. Maybe shit is just fucked up. Maybe I have to clear out the switches with IPA/solvent and then relube them with specialized lube. | ||
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aethereality
Canada62 Posts
On December 20 2012 09:13 Medrea wrote: You can just put it in the refrigerator to speed up the drying process then. What? Isn't drying the process of evaporation? Doesn't lowering the temperature move a liquid further away from the boiling point, thus making evaporation slower? And wouldn't taking it out of the fridge cause condensation to form because of the higher ambient temperature outside of the fridge? The answer to all 3 of these questions is yes. I'm not sure what your train of thought was with that one, bro. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On December 21 2012 08:12 aethereality wrote: What? Isn't drying the process of evaporation? Doesn't lowering the temperature move a liquid further away from the boiling point, thus making evaporation slower? And wouldn't taking it out of the fridge cause condensation to form because of the higher ambient temperature outside of the fridge? The answer to all 3 of these questions is yes. I'm not sure what your train of thought was with that one, bro. This is why you cover pasta before putting it in the fridge. Ever leave a plate of pasta in the open in the fridge? Its as hard as rock in hours. Why does meat get freezer burned? The cold rips the water out. You can use the refrigerator to rip out moisture quickly from everything. Why? Because unless you have an ancient fridge that has a freezer that slowly gets smaller and smaller as ice builds up, they are all equipped with dehumidifiers that remove moisture from the contents within. Which is again why we cover everything we want to keep moist. That is why we have been putting electronics in refrigerators since the, I dunno, the 70's? About? | ||
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FranzP
France270 Posts
You must beware about condensation but I don't think it would be a big problem just be sure to take it out and put it in a rather dry room. If it's really moist in your house be careful though. Edit: After thinking about it, depending on the solvent you use it may be not a good idea to put it in the refrigerator with food :p | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low. You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things. I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water. Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard. EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something. | ||
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eXePensai
Canada56 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote: I wouldnt use the freezer. Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low. You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things. I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water. Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard. EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something. So... would I need to clear out the food from the fridge, or wrap it or anything? Or just stick it in the fridge and that's it? I've completely taken apart my ducky, pcb and everything, so i dont think water will be an issue, and i'll let it dry for a while anyways. using water/IPA mix and IPA dabbing, depending on the part. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On December 21 2012 08:57 eXePensai wrote: So, you had mineral oil over/near your keyboard why...?? f....f.....f...f...f..fap fap fap? I already said why. I was lubricating some fans. http://www.overclock.net/t/1336160/how-to-repair-msi-twin-frozr-heatsink-fans-or-how-to-fix-fans-where-there-is-no-hole-behind-the-sticker/0_100 Probably boring links if you arent a fan/heatsink enthusiast like i am. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On December 21 2012 14:12 Belial88 wrote: So... would I need to clear out the food from the fridge, or wrap it or anything? Or just stick it in the fridge and that's it? I've completely taken apart my ducky, pcb and everything, so i dont think water will be an issue, and i'll let it dry for a while anyways. using water/IPA mix and IPA dabbing, depending on the part. Nah just putting it uncovered on the top shelf is fine. If thats what you are doing then just using the air is fine as well. So do that and forget the fridge. Remember it for future stuff though. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On December 22 2012 16:00 Belial88 wrote: i will do, thanks. i mean why not put it in the fridge for a week, right. very cool tip. Is that....? Did you just make a pun? | ||
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StimedSheep
United States51 Posts
I would say douse it in rice but then you have rice powder everywhere and you need to reclean it again. I would go with the trick that the ripster people mention of a warm radiating heat source. Heat lamp, hair dryer on LOW, they get really hot on high, basically anything you can hold your hand under for 10 minutes and not have it burn. As for a solvent for the mineral oil if you have not yet found one, check your local hardware store. They will have that in their chemical section. Denatured alchol is pure alchol that has been modified for non human consumption, so if you are looking for pure alchol there you go. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
i think my fridge is broken, lol. I was offered some free Mineral Spirits today, ie paint thinner (as ripster recommended) but I recalled back to my experiences of painting warhammer 40k. I put a couple plastic models in paint thinner to remove a terrible paint job I had done years before. The plastic absolutely melted (after a better paint job they still looked better than before). I know ripster said he tested paint thinner on plastic before, and the damage probably occurred from having the models in the thinner for overnight (that's how long it took to get paint off), but the memory just scares me to put my keyboard in that. Not to mention the PCB, and how fragile that might be. Just going to stick with watered down IPA. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On December 21 2012 08:51 Medrea wrote: I wouldnt use the freezer. Freezer will bring parts that have capacitance values too low. You can also use rice. Dry uncooked rice also help bring the moisture out of things. I always put things in the fridge when they get wet because sometimes water can get inside of things, and then it takes a really really long time, like weeks, to air out if its an almost perfect box (enclosed area). Inside a fridge you have a machine built for ripping out water. Oh also about the freezer, you could end up freezing the water between two places, and make cracks. That will break the keyboard. EDIT: And finally, its not risky, its not underground, its something that we have been doing for decades now. Its a life saver for cellphones that have been dropped into water or something. wont rice cause rice dust to get all over it? i put the board in the fridge for like half an hour and it seemed like condensation got all over it ;/ I can tell there's IPA all inside some of the keys, and it isn't getting out no matter how much duster i use. I need a way to really dry out the board. maybe i'll put the board in front of the space heater set to like 80-90*F. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On January 07 2013 14:08 Belial88 wrote: wont rice cause rice dust to get all over it? i put the board in the fridge for like half an hour and it seemed like condensation got all over it ;/ I can tell there's IPA all inside some of the keys, and it isn't getting out no matter how much duster i use. I need a way to really dry out the board. maybe i'll put the board in front of the space heater set to like 80-90*F. The problem with the fridge is that removing it from the fridge will cause condensation either way. I'd avoid it. As you said, mineral spirits could cause damage to plastic (glad I'm not the only one who's lost a model that way). You need to use something, but I wouldn't water down the rubbing alcohol, myself. Diluting it just means it doesn't evaporate as quickly. Use like 90%, it evaporates so fast I don't even worry about it spilling on electronics. Then if there's any nooks and crannies, you can just use canned air to finish the cleanup. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
So I need a method to pull the water out without getting rice dust all over the board (maybe stick it in a container of rice but wrapped in paper towerl? everything i read says stick the rice all up in it...), or condensation all over it. I got a space heater, maybe stick it in front of that on like 70-90*F. I also used 90% for a while and i was having the same issue where that wasn't coming out. Now I can't tell if some of the keys are not fully right because liquid is still in them, or because they need lubrication. I mean the keyboard isn't too bad, I could use it and all would be fine. It's only like the keys 0. -, +, and then the 3 keys below it every row down, a very small part of the keyboard, and they aren't even that bad. But there's something stopping them from operating perfectly like they should, and I'd like to fix that. Plus there's clearly water all up in it still and i need a method that pulls it out, i dont think it's just going to dry out. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Since you seem to be on the fence about the fridge just go ahead and use a hairdryer or nice dry place in your house. Not like Im going to get offended or anything. Ive been putting random shit in rice bags in the fridge since the early 90's but I can see how people question it (stuff with nooks and crannies dont go directly in the rice, cellphones however can). Just use whatevers. Since the keyboard doesnt contain anything like a battery afaik you can do just about anything. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
i didnt use any rice, or bag it. i just wrapped it in paper towel and stuck it in the fridge. I understand rice works but i dont want rice dust all in the switches, is all. I'll just stick it in front of the space heater. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
i dont know how theres still oil after tons of soaks and stuff, im not sure what to do. maybe i gotta use a compressor or something, because 2 cans of duster did nothing. | ||
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