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On January 06 2013 02:43 Medrea wrote:
Cyro's general response to that is that capturing and streaming performance across all of the streaming tools is generally the same. The justification to this is that the x264 encoding everyone uses to bring everything into H264 is the same across the board.
But after trying a lot of streamers, some will just have issues. Xsplit for instance dropped everything to a crawl because the way it did the flash preview was clearly not working correctly where FFsplit was the first program that worked correctly for me (FMLE had a similar issue but the performance wasnt even great when running from command line), something a lot of us on TL noticed.
So the "performance" of each streamer might be the same but there is definitely more going on under the hood. It's just a "working or not" difference at this point. For me OBS and FFSplit work about as expected. Generally I always use the same settings but not every streamer even have the same options. So maybe Im just being guardrailed into success by these two programs.
Either way, these threads are generally not to be used as fan clubs. Though at the same time OBS.jim is a TL member so passing him public praise shouldnt be denied, that'd be a dick move.
There's just lots of performance variables, different screen/game capture will generally affect how the game and systems runs in different or more noticable ways but in terms of settings (resolution, preset, fps etc) and measured CPU usage, things are usually the same.
There needs to be more education and research on things IMO, instead of just stating "X performs better because i can do Y with it", as most people say they cans tream at a set resolution and FPS with one setup but not another, when usually the only difference is higher average framerate of the game or something with the exact same CPU usage and other conditons. Id rather understand the pro's and con's, exact performance details and reasons why for performance of different things and everything else than just bandwagon hop FMLE-Xsplit-FFsplit-OBS-WhateverComesNext like it seems the majority of the TL and especially reddit community did.
Not an enemy here (:
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Ive been looking forward to the day any of these tech websites decide to take benchmarking with streaming seriously.
So far none of them have come up with anything. All we have is encoding benchmarks, and gaming benchmarks. But doing both of the at the same time is an entirely different dynamic.
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^On a higher end system the screen/game capture and interactions it has is much more of a big deal for most games
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Hello everyone , when i stream with OBS the second i press the start streaming button i drop down to 30-40 FPS, the same problem i had with the Xsplit screen region, which i solved by using dxtory
resolution set to 1920-1080 and quality 6 with a bitrate of 750. what could the problem be?
(0,75 mb upload, my cpu is I7-3770)
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On January 06 2013 05:17 OptimusSC2 wrote:
Hello everyone , when i stream with OBS the second i press the start streaming button i drop down to 30-40 FPS, the same problem i had with the Xsplit screen region, which i solved by using dxtory
resolution set to 1920-1080 and quality 6 with a bitrate of 750. what could the problem be?
(0,75 mb upload, my cpu is I7-3770)
well 1 problem is that you are streaming 1080p on a 750kB connection. drop that to whatever is under half (960x540) and see what you get.
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On January 06 2013 03:37 Medrea wrote:
Ive been looking forward to the day any of these tech websites decide to take benchmarking with streaming seriously.
So far none of them have come up with anything. All we have is encoding benchmarks, and gaming benchmarks. But doing both of the at the same time is an entirely different dynamic.
I've been looking forward to the day that people stop using other peoples benchmarks and tools to measure shit and give info based off of their own experience. All info that I give on TL is based off of personal experience, never really opinionated or anyone elses info.
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On January 06 2013 06:30 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 05:17 OptimusSC2 wrote:
Hello everyone , when i stream with OBS the second i press the start streaming button i drop down to 30-40 FPS, the same problem i had with the Xsplit screen region, which i solved by using dxtory
resolution set to 1920-1080 and quality 6 with a bitrate of 750. what could the problem be?
(0,75 mb upload, my cpu is I7-3770) well 1 problem is that you are streaming 1080p on a 750kB connection. drop that to whatever is under half (960x540) and see what you get.
Still the fps is inbetween 30-40
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On January 06 2013 06:30 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 05:17 OptimusSC2 wrote:
Hello everyone , when i stream with OBS the second i press the start streaming button i drop down to 30-40 FPS, the same problem i had with the Xsplit screen region, which i solved by using dxtory
resolution set to 1920-1080 and quality 6 with a bitrate of 750. what could the problem be?
(0,75 mb upload, my cpu is I7-3770) well 1 problem is that you are streaming 1080p on a 750kB connection. drop that to whatever is under half (960x540) and see what you get.
Bitrate is not going to affect the performance of the game, just the output quality
On January 06 2013 06:33 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:37 Medrea wrote:
Ive been looking forward to the day any of these tech websites decide to take benchmarking with streaming seriously.
So far none of them have come up with anything. All we have is encoding benchmarks, and gaming benchmarks. But doing both of the at the same time is an entirely different dynamic. I've been looking forward to the day that people stop using other peoples benchmarks and tools to measure shit and give info based off of their own experience. All info that I give on TL is based off of personal experience, never really opinionated or anyone elses info.
Personal experience doesnt really mean anything, benchmarks will show performance pretty absolutely. If it is accurately measured personal information, then it is basically just a benchmark of your own system anyway. Not accurate, its just random infromation vunerable to the placebo effect or bias
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I can't capture my entire screen when I play starcraft 2, I go to watch it and there are black bars on the left and right sides. someone please help! I read a couple pages on this and can't find answer
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I just tried this app, and let me congratulate the OBS team for making a great app. Not only was it insanely easy to set up, it actually performed great.
I tested it using Dota2, and it worked pretty good by selecting to record Dota2 only. Haven't had time to fiddle with overlay.
Test: http://www.twitch.tv/rotar3d/b/354337059
My PC:
Core i5-3570k @ 3.4 (stock)
16gb mem
ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II
Settings I used:
Quality Balance: 10
Max Bitrate: 6000
Buffer: 9000
Audio Bitrate: 192
Resolution is 1080p, but downscaled to 720p for test purposes, at 45 FPS.
I'll probably be looking at increasing the quality, since I feel my PC can handle this, and my bandwidth from speedtest: ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/2416476395.png)
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Can someone help me please ):
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On January 06 2013 08:40 dj1120ad wrote:
Can someone help me please ):
I'm fairly new at this, but I'm sure if you post how you're trying to capture (either screengrab or directly from game) and maybe a screenshot of what you're seeing, people would be able to assist you further. You have to be detailed in info as you have higher chances to get a response due to less back-and-forth.
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hmm, i'm not sure how to take a screenshot, i always spress prtsc button but idk where the pictures go, anyway, when i try to stream sc2 with obs there are 2 black bars on the left and right side of my stream, watch, I'm streaming now, come see what I mean http://www.twitch.tv/dj1120
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nevermind I fixed it, thank you <3
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Sry if it was already stated, but how is it with OBS on Windows 8? I bought a new computer and I need to decide now if I should stay with Win 7 or install Win 8.
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I've been playing around with OBS recetnly and everything works fine, BUT I get a huge delay(~1second) when I playf. It's like I would play on the korean server. I've tried googling but nothing similiar came up. Can someone help me?
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You must be using 99% of your upload Yoigen. You may need to lower quality.
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On January 06 2013 08:33 rotar wrote:I just tried this app, and let me congratulate the OBS team for making a great app. Not only was it insanely easy to set up, it actually performed great. I tested it using Dota2, and it worked pretty good by selecting to record Dota2 only. Haven't had time to fiddle with overlay. Test: http://www.twitch.tv/rotar3d/b/354337059My PC:Core i5-3570k @ 3.4 (stock) 16gb mem ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II Settings I used:Quality Balance: 10 Max Bitrate: 6000 Buffer: 9000 Audio Bitrate: 192 Resolution is 1080p, but downscaled to 720p for test purposes, at 45 FPS. I'll probably be looking at increasing the quality, since I feel my PC can handle this, and my bandwidth from speedtest:
jesus christ 6k bitrate for 720p? you wont be getting any viewers. lol. If you are not a twitch partner (imo), you should really stick to 720p with lower bitrate so that people can watch you wherever and whenever rather than only 2-3 people being able to watch you because the others dont have enough bandwidth to do so.
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On January 06 2013 21:24 LgNKami wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 08:33 rotar wrote:I just tried this app, and let me congratulate the OBS team for making a great app. Not only was it insanely easy to set up, it actually performed great. I tested it using Dota2, and it worked pretty good by selecting to record Dota2 only. Haven't had time to fiddle with overlay. Test: http://www.twitch.tv/rotar3d/b/354337059My PC:Core i5-3570k @ 3.4 (stock) 16gb mem ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II Settings I used:Quality Balance: 10 Max Bitrate: 6000 Buffer: 9000 Audio Bitrate: 192 Resolution is 1080p, but downscaled to 720p for test purposes, at 45 FPS. I'll probably be looking at increasing the quality, since I feel my PC can handle this, and my bandwidth from speedtest: jesus christ 6k bitrate for 720p? you wont be getting any viewers. lol. If you are not a twitch partner (imo), you should really stick to 720p with lower bitrate so that people can watch you wherever and whenever rather than only 2-3 people being able to watch you because the others dont have enough bandwidth to do so.
Resolution not really that important (you can make a really good 1920x1080@30fps stream with 3.5k/3.5k) but yea you really dont want to go above that bitrate for online, and if you are doing offline recordings then its not really important
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