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On October 19 2011 06:39 Onioncookie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 04:29 Flaiker wrote:On October 18 2011 06:29 Onioncookie wrote:
So does anyone have any tipps running a 720p stream with a super low bandwith?! Since the OP got a "bit less" good looking quality then i have with even less bandwith"
I managed it to look nearly like 720p ... with my 0,77 uploadrate
But the problem is it sometimes spikes and gets my ping from ~60-80 to 300+
Running @
Preset Slow
Quality 10
Max Bitrate 620
Buffer 1240
22 khz stereo with 32000 bitrate
Running @ 20 Fps
Thanks! I have 1 mbit upload and try to accomplish the same.Does the quality setting and the preset really change that much so you can stream 720p with < 1 mb/s upload? While I tested I couldn't see any difference Yes it does ... in my opinion like ~800kbps for 720p is enough. With 620 kbps it looks nearly like 720p with rarely artifacs ( of course it spikes up to 750+ T_T ) Edit just to show you how less bandwith you actualy need ... http://twitch.tv/onioncookie/b/297783230 just to show thats running @ 550kbps  with the spikes EDIT EDIT: Btw Skip the first few Mins since for whatever reason it does look better after a few mins of streaming dunno why ...
Good that you said in your opinion , because to get everything out of the 720p you gonna roughly need ~ 2300-2500 kbps 
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On October 19 2011 07:16 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 04:29 Nepsilon wrote:On October 19 2011 04:23 Superiorwolf wrote:
Can anyone explain how the quality setting 1-10 on xSplit and the buffer/buffer regions affect how the stream looks (and how much more upload speed this requires?)
I have a super fast internet here in my dorm like 70 mb/s upload but only my mediocre laptop (AMD A6-3000 Quad Core 1.4Ghz/2.3Ghz turbo, radeon 6720g2 graphics), while at home I have a pretty good computer but super slow internet 0.37 mb/s upload. Think i pretty much mentioned that one in one of the videos. You should check it out. Thanks I watched it. I think I will leave quality at 6, since quality takes up CPU and bandwidth. VBV max bitrate 500 kbps, max buffer 800 kbps (it was 500 before). Since my internet is super fast here at the dorms but CPU is not so good, I changed the preset to ultrafast as you suggested. Does Audio encoding at a higher bitrate cause more strain on the CPU? For example, would 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 128kbps be more straining on CPU than 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 96kbps or even 22 KHz? Exactly how much more strenuous on the CPU would be increasing resolution from 640x360 to 768x432 or 640x480 (thats not the right aspect ratio so I don't know what that will do) Also I think this was in your video but Optimize Text Resize does that have any negative effects for you? Thanks so much!
Changing your preset to ultra fast on 500kbps i dont think it would be such a great idea. See if you get any pixelization in your stream 1st. About Audio Encoding , on 500kbps it will matter alot since you are already giving 128kbps to the audio and whats left goes for the video. So there isnt any balance there. I suggest yu to lower the KHZ keep it stereo. About the resulution i really can not calculate exact numbers how % usage while using them.
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On October 19 2011 07:38 Kilos wrote:
I can't start it with f12... nothing happens.
If you are still on trial , please try another virsion which already helped a person solving his problem since he was pressing f12 and nothing was happening to him aswell.
On the other side if you have it bought already , try and see if you have any background applications that such as steam ( steam takes f12 for screen capture i think) and some other programs that dxtory might interefere with them before any of ur games.
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On October 19 2011 19:29 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 06:39 Onioncookie wrote:On October 19 2011 04:29 Flaiker wrote:On October 18 2011 06:29 Onioncookie wrote:
So does anyone have any tipps running a 720p stream with a super low bandwith?! Since the OP got a "bit less" good looking quality then i have with even less bandwith"
I managed it to look nearly like 720p ... with my 0,77 uploadrate
But the problem is it sometimes spikes and gets my ping from ~60-80 to 300+
Running @
Preset Slow
Quality 10
Max Bitrate 620
Buffer 1240
22 khz stereo with 32000 bitrate
Running @ 20 Fps
Thanks! I have 1 mbit upload and try to accomplish the same.Does the quality setting and the preset really change that much so you can stream 720p with < 1 mb/s upload? While I tested I couldn't see any difference Yes it does ... in my opinion like ~800kbps for 720p is enough. With 620 kbps it looks nearly like 720p with rarely artifacs ( of course it spikes up to 750+ T_T ) Edit just to show you how less bandwith you actualy need ... http://twitch.tv/onioncookie/b/297783230 just to show thats running @ 550kbps with the spikes EDIT EDIT: Btw Skip the first few Mins since for whatever reason it does look better after a few mins of streaming dunno why ... Good that you said in your opinion , because to get everything out of the 720p you gonna roughly need ~ 2300-2500 kbps
Are you sure?!
As i remember corretly i helped out a friend of mine who had 100+ upload, and beyond 1500kbps i didnt rly see any difference @720p (only 20fps since his CPU was bad)
Hmm but i think i reached the maximum usage of my bandwith  any other ideas? It looks good as of now but i dont wanna reduce the quality but get the least amount of ingame delay as possible ...
Any1 tried a custom resolution ?! Would it lower the bandwith usage ? like just a bit below 720p shouldnt look that worse but its less a strain for the bandwith isnt it?
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Thanks for this! I definitely would not have been able to get it this smooth w/o OC'ing my CPU which I couldn't really do since I have stock cooling. quality is meh, im not sure how to get it to look nicer but my upload is 3 mb/s so i think I can up the values a bit more after a bit more research into what they do when i have the time in a few days :D
Regardless this helped a lot ^>~
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On October 19 2011 19:34 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 07:16 Superiorwolf wrote:On October 19 2011 04:29 Nepsilon wrote:On October 19 2011 04:23 Superiorwolf wrote:
Can anyone explain how the quality setting 1-10 on xSplit and the buffer/buffer regions affect how the stream looks (and how much more upload speed this requires?)
I have a super fast internet here in my dorm like 70 mb/s upload but only my mediocre laptop (AMD A6-3000 Quad Core 1.4Ghz/2.3Ghz turbo, radeon 6720g2 graphics), while at home I have a pretty good computer but super slow internet 0.37 mb/s upload. Think i pretty much mentioned that one in one of the videos. You should check it out. Thanks I watched it. I think I will leave quality at 6, since quality takes up CPU and bandwidth. VBV max bitrate 500 kbps, max buffer 800 kbps (it was 500 before). Since my internet is super fast here at the dorms but CPU is not so good, I changed the preset to ultrafast as you suggested. Does Audio encoding at a higher bitrate cause more strain on the CPU? For example, would 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 128kbps be more straining on CPU than 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 96kbps or even 22 KHz? Exactly how much more strenuous on the CPU would be increasing resolution from 640x360 to 768x432 or 640x480 (thats not the right aspect ratio so I don't know what that will do) Also I think this was in your video but Optimize Text Resize does that have any negative effects for you? Thanks so much! Changing your preset to ultra fast on 500kbps i dont think it would be such a great idea. See if you get any pixelization in your stream 1st. About Audio Encoding , on 500kbps it will matter alot since you are already giving 128kbps to the audio and whats left goes for the video. So there isnt any balance there. I suggest yu to lower the KHZ keep it stereo. About the resulution i really can not calculate exact numbers how % usage while using them.
Yeah there was some pixelization when at 500 kbps but my upload speed is 70 mb/s so I will increase that to 1000 kbps or so, I'll let you know how that goes thanks!
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Is there a way to have DXtory stop actually processing the recording? I think that's why I get stutters because DXTory actually makes a recording while I'm streaming, so my CPU gets choked up.
(3.4 Ghz Phenom II x4)
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On October 20 2011 08:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
Is there a way to have DXtory stop actually processing the recording? I think that's why I get stutters because DXTory actually makes a recording while I'm streaming, so my CPU gets choked up.
(3.4 Ghz Phenom II x4)
I can barely understand what you mean by that ?
If you are saying that while recording . dxtory is as well recording it in your hardware than its not ur CPU whos making ur chokes. Its ur HDD.
You can turn local recording off in Dxtory and see for how it goes.
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720p just means that the second number in your resolution is "720" nothing more ; )
for example 1280*720( 16 : 9 )
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On October 20 2011 19:32 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 08:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
Is there a way to have DXtory stop actually processing the recording? I think that's why I get stutters because DXTory actually makes a recording while I'm streaming, so my CPU gets choked up.
(3.4 Ghz Phenom II x4) I can barely understand what you mean by that ? If you are saying that while recording . dxtory is as well recording it in your hardware than its not ur CPU whos making ur chokes. Its ur HDD. You can turn local recording off in Dxtory and see for how it goes.
How do I turn it off?
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On October 21 2011 07:27 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2011 19:32 Nepsilon wrote:On October 20 2011 08:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
Is there a way to have DXtory stop actually processing the recording? I think that's why I get stutters because DXTory actually makes a recording while I'm streaming, so my CPU gets choked up.
(3.4 Ghz Phenom II x4) I can barely understand what you mean by that ? If you are saying that while recording . dxtory is as well recording it in your hardware than its not ur CPU whos making ur chokes. Its ur HDD. You can turn local recording off in Dxtory and see for how it goes. How do I turn it off?
Under the movie tab you will see File output , uncheck that one and you should be fine.
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Yep, I streamed a whole bunch of shit last night, put my bitrate really low and it came out not too shabby :3
I'm playing a medium graphics though ): Thought I could ultra with the cpu settings off.
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I'm currently have trouble streaming starcaft 2 in medium quality but I still get like 90fps but the stream looks really choppy. I dont get any lag in sc2 when I play but the stream does.
http://www.twitch.tv/goodseed/b/297973703
Setting I used in this stream, 30fps ( also tried with 25fps)
1152x720
2000bitrate 4000buffer rate
Quality 10
veryfast preset
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Damn I just don't have enough upload
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Nono , Buffer wont cause you anything ingame , it will only affect the stream . But however your problem is very odd and im still trying to figure out what might possibly be.. I have no clue so far i am sorry. You PC is insanely well enough to keep up good streaming + sc2 without a problem but u still seems to have problems from somewhere.
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On October 22 2011 22:43 dTox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 20:45 Nepsilon wrote:
Nono , Buffer wont cause you anything ingame , it will only affect the stream . But however your problem is very odd and im still trying to figure out what might possibly be.. I have no clue so far i am sorry. You PC is insanely well enough to keep up good streaming + sc2 without a problem but u still seems to have problems from somewhere. Well okay, lets go back to the basics, what would generally affect in-game performance when it comes to streaming?
Its the CPU but your CPU can handle it more than well. And how is it possible that you can feel it in some maps but in some you cant.
I dont get that part.
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