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On October 18 2011 19:28 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 12:12 tianGO wrote:
Hey, really nice guide, thank you!
Do you know if it's any way to stream full screen games using dxtory?
I'm not talking about SC2 because I know you can do it just fine with the windowed full screen option, but unfortunately most games don't have that.
Thanks. Dxtory is made for this  You can stream fullscreen games without any problems. @Torte de Lini I really didnt expect Xsplit itself to not lag u but having Dxtory with it to lag your game out. Tonight i think i`ll have some spare time , please PM me every single configuration in dxtory requred for streaming + every settings you are using on xsplit. PM those i`ll see what i can do.
I don't lag out of the game, my stream lags and becomes choppy.
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On October 19 2011 00:25 HellGreen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 11:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Just Xsplit = No lag, no choppiness, just unrefined quality sadly ):
With DXtory = More choppiness.
I feel like I just need to figure out what settings I need for DXtory (I followed your guide(s)) and XSplit. Pardon me for jumping in here. I had something like that happen to me at first. What solved it for me, was to completely make a new "presentation" in XSplit. There was something bad in the old presentation, so I started over from scratch which solved it for me. It's quick to test - remember you can save your current presentation so you can reload it if you want.
Do you mean the edit channels thing or the screenregion/dxtory camera 1, etc.
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Can anyone explain how the quality setting 1-10 on xSplit and the buffer/buffer regions affect how the stream looks (and how much more upload speed this requires?)
I have a super fast internet here in my dorm like 70 mb/s upload but only my mediocre laptop (AMD A6-3000 Quad Core 1.4Ghz/2.3Ghz turbo, radeon 6720g2 graphics), while at home I have a pretty good computer but super slow internet 0.37 mb/s upload.
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On October 18 2011 06:29 Onioncookie wrote:
So does anyone have any tipps running a 720p stream with a super low bandwith?! Since the OP got a "bit less" good looking quality then i have with even less bandwith"
I managed it to look nearly like 720p ... with my 0,77 uploadrate
But the problem is it sometimes spikes and gets my ping from ~60-80 to 300+
Running @
Preset Slow
Quality 10
Max Bitrate 620
Buffer 1240
22 khz stereo with 32000 bitrate
Running @ 20 Fps
Thanks!
I have 1 mbit upload and try to accomplish the same.Does the quality setting and the preset really change that much so you can stream 720p with < 1 mb/s upload? While I tested I couldn't see any difference
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On October 19 2011 04:23 Superiorwolf wrote:
Can anyone explain how the quality setting 1-10 on xSplit and the buffer/buffer regions affect how the stream looks (and how much more upload speed this requires?)
I have a super fast internet here in my dorm like 70 mb/s upload but only my mediocre laptop (AMD A6-3000 Quad Core 1.4Ghz/2.3Ghz turbo, radeon 6720g2 graphics), while at home I have a pretty good computer but super slow internet 0.37 mb/s upload.
Think i pretty much mentioned that one in one of the videos. You should check it out.
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On October 19 2011 04:16 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 00:25 HellGreen wrote:On October 18 2011 11:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Just Xsplit = No lag, no choppiness, just unrefined quality sadly ):
With DXtory = More choppiness.
I feel like I just need to figure out what settings I need for DXtory (I followed your guide(s)) and XSplit. Pardon me for jumping in here. I had something like that happen to me at first. What solved it for me, was to completely make a new "presentation" in XSplit. There was something bad in the old presentation, so I started over from scratch which solved it for me. It's quick to test - remember you can save your current presentation so you can reload it if you want. Do you mean the edit channels thing or the screenregion/dxtory camera 1, etc.
Was I meant was go to the "File" menu and choose "New presentation", but... I think I misunderstood you. You mentioned in another post that you don't lag ingame - it's the stream that lag when you're using Dxtory? That is weird since Dxtory is less resource demanding (CPU) than XSplit's capture method and even or less demanding in bandwidth. Maybe double check the FPS settings (both of them) and that you don't record locally with Dxtory (uncheck "File Output").
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On October 19 2011 04:29 Flaiker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2011 06:29 Onioncookie wrote:
So does anyone have any tipps running a 720p stream with a super low bandwith?! Since the OP got a "bit less" good looking quality then i have with even less bandwith"
I managed it to look nearly like 720p ... with my 0,77 uploadrate
But the problem is it sometimes spikes and gets my ping from ~60-80 to 300+
Running @
Preset Slow
Quality 10
Max Bitrate 620
Buffer 1240
22 khz stereo with 32000 bitrate
Running @ 20 Fps
Thanks! I have 1 mbit upload and try to accomplish the same.Does the quality setting and the preset really change that much so you can stream 720p with < 1 mb/s upload? While I tested I couldn't see any difference
Yes it does ... in my opinion like ~800kbps for 720p is enough. With 620 kbps it looks nearly like 720p with rarely artifacs ( of course it spikes up to 750+ T_T )
Edit just to show you how less bandwith you actualy need ... http://twitch.tv/onioncookie/b/297783230 just to show thats running @ 550kbps  with the spikes
EDIT EDIT: Btw Skip the first few Mins since for whatever reason it does look better after a few mins of streaming dunno why ...
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does anyone know how to fix this issue of music sound going really bad after you stream for couple minute?
Example:
http://www.twitch.tv/goodseed/b/297564189
Skip to around the end part and the sound goes really bad but my mic is still fine, I was able to hear the music fine on my headset but it outputs really bad after few minutes. 
Edit: Once you start streaming, my fps drops about 50 from 130 in medium quality in starcraft 2. I get around 80 in the beginning on ladder and lags me quite a lot in starcraft2. Is there a way to not let this happen? I dont see a reason why my fps would drop when I start streaming. Or a way to make it drop less fps.
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On October 19 2011 04:29 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 04:23 Superiorwolf wrote:
Can anyone explain how the quality setting 1-10 on xSplit and the buffer/buffer regions affect how the stream looks (and how much more upload speed this requires?)
I have a super fast internet here in my dorm like 70 mb/s upload but only my mediocre laptop (AMD A6-3000 Quad Core 1.4Ghz/2.3Ghz turbo, radeon 6720g2 graphics), while at home I have a pretty good computer but super slow internet 0.37 mb/s upload. Think i pretty much mentioned that one in one of the videos. You should check it out.
Thanks I watched it. I think I will leave quality at 6, since quality takes up CPU and bandwidth. VBV max bitrate 500 kbps, max buffer 800 kbps (it was 500 before). Since my internet is super fast here at the dorms but CPU is not so good, I changed the preset to ultrafast as you suggested. Does Audio encoding at a higher bitrate cause more strain on the CPU? For example, would 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 128kbps be more straining on CPU than 44 KHz 16 bit stereo 96kbps or even 22 KHz? Exactly how much more strenuous on the CPU would be increasing resolution from 640x360 to 768x432 or 640x480 (thats not the right aspect ratio so I don't know what that will do)
Also I think this was in your video but Optimize Text Resize does that have any negative effects for you?
Thanks so much!
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I can't start it with f12... nothing happens.
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I will say this doing this my quality has improved alot and everything. Worked just as good as I had hoped after seeing yours  .
http://www.twitch.tv/blade55555/b/297812077
Is my result and if you are curious what I was doing before with just xsplit will take a look at the other vods .
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what were your settings blade?
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I noticed that selecting "fullscreen" instead of "windowed (fullscreen) in sc2 gives me about 10-20 more fps when recording with dxtory. However, sometimes xsplit will crash if you do not have the process properly minimized before going into sc2, or if you try to start streaming AFTER starting a screen cap with dxtory in full screen mode.
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On October 19 2011 11:44 Goodseed wrote:
what were your settings blade?
dxtory at 25 fps, 450 bit rate, 800 vbv or whatever its called quality 10. I have an upload of .69 as well. Could probably do it at 500 but yeah
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On October 19 2011 12:10 blade55555 wrote:dxtory at 25 fps, 450 bit rate, 800 vbv or whatever its called quality 10. I have an upload of .69 as well. Could probably do it at 500 but yeah
You`ll start feeling delay ingame so you shouldnt imo.
Quality is good for what your upload can offer , keep it up. Maybe you can try 30 fps already since the quality isnt that high that can make the stream pixelization(or artifacts , how they`re called) more visible.
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On October 19 2011 12:41 Nepsilon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 12:10 blade55555 wrote:On October 19 2011 11:44 Goodseed wrote:
what were your settings blade? dxtory at 25 fps, 450 bit rate, 800 vbv or whatever its called quality 10. I have an upload of .69 as well. Could probably do it at 500 but yeah You`ll start feeling delay ingame so you shouldnt imo. Quality is good for what your upload can offer , keep it up. Maybe you can try 30 fps already since the quality isnt that high that can make the stream pixelization(or artifacts , how they`re called) more visible.
I would but I think I'd get more pixelization I think thats why I did 25 instead of the 30 you do but I am extremely satisfied and I bet my viewers will to
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Hey nepsilon, can you look at my post near the top ? and maybe provide answer if you know it ;D
THanks!
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Yeah I mean anyone who has a good cpu and getting lag problems should follow this guide. I still can't believe how smooth my stream is AND how smooth my actual game is while streaming. So awesome way better then just using xsplit thats for sure and I thank you again sir for the well written guide <3
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On October 19 2011 12:44 Goodseed wrote:
Hey nepsilon, can you look at my post near the top ? and maybe provide answer if you know it ;D
THanks!
You have exacly the same problem as in Beastyqt stream sometimes. been thinking before what can it be but i am not sure. what you can do is simply lower the sound quality or simply make it mono and test it out. If its still doing the same thing , than i have to think about this. I doubt that this is Dxtory related problem but Xsplit itself.
If its not the quality of the sound , i will think about this more deeply.
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@Blade55555 You are more than welcome once again and i am glad i helped you achieving your goal while streaming
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