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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 15:27:14
October 05 2011 15:26 GMT
#41
On October 05 2011 12:39 iTzSnypah wrote:
For the 500 price one, IF you dual monitor I would suggest the I3-2105/2125 because of the hd3000 graphics, your gaming monitor would be on the 6870 and the second monitor on the Hd3000 albeit you would need a mobo that works with it...

I don't think I could recommend going with dual-monitor if you're on a 500$ budget. Especially if I'd need to first add 10$ to the cost of the CPU and then get amore expensive mobo. Might include it in the alternative options but that's not a priority atm.

Also I'll try to keep these up-to-date the best I can.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 05 2011 18:22 GMT
#42
for the 1000 and the 1250; can they run on ultra settings with no lag in 4v4s?
i love my collosi and storms <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:29:04
October 05 2011 18:27 GMT
#43
On October 06 2011 03:22 roLangela wrote:
for the 1000 and the 1250; can they run on ultra settings with no lag in 4v4s?

nothing can


but to reiterate on that point, it's because they're CPU-limited. If you just want to play SC2 in 1080p the 800$ build should give just about identical performance to the 1750 build.
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ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 05 2011 18:32 GMT
#44
nothing can give you lag? or nothing in the build can give it no lag therefore there is some lag? and you're saying the 800$ build can run ultra settings no prob? Sorry. i apologize for my noobness in computers.
i love my collosi and storms <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 18:39:29
October 05 2011 18:36 GMT
#45
On October 06 2011 03:32 roLangela wrote:
nothing can give you lag? or nothing in the build can give it no lag therefore there is some lag? and you're saying the 800$ build can run ultra settings no prob? Sorry. i apologize for my noobness in computers.

every build will have lag in 4v4 in maxed games, just isn't possible to run that except maybe if you overclock to 8ghz with liquid helium but I doubt you have that laying around.

Oh with that being said, both i5 2400 and 2500k should still run 4v4s just fine and will only experience lag in extreme maxed army scenarios which pretty much never happen, also you can just tune some CPU settings down from ultra to high and be set so it's not like they're laggy processors...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 05 2011 18:38 GMT
#46
On October 06 2011 03:36 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 03:32 roLangela wrote:
nothing can give you lag? or nothing in the build can give it no lag therefore there is some lag? and you're saying the 800$ build can run ultra settings no prob? Sorry. i apologize for my noobness in computers.

every build will have lag in 4v4 in maxed games, just isn't possible to run that except maybe if you overclock to 8ghz with liquid helium but I doubt you have that laying around.

^^ LOL LOL true true. another question, the $800 can run games such as crisis 2,bf3, dotA2; all in maxed settings as well without any problems?
i love my collosi and storms <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 05 2011 18:45 GMT
#47
Well. Assuming you use 1080p if you use excessive anti-aliasing Crysis might not run at a smooth 60 fps and also I've heard BF3 is very tough on the GPU so that might not be possible to be maxed either.

The main difference between the 800 and 900$ builds is that the 900$ build uses one notch better graphics card which will improve performance by around 10-20% depending on the game so it might be worth considering, but I still think that the 800$ build is the cost-efficiency sweetspot and that the 1000$ is the second sweetspot and that actually can deal with pretty much every game maxed in 1080p but you're going to have to deal with crossfiring.

I'm going to go to the shower now and I'll try to also add an alternative 1000$ build that will use a GTX 580 instead of utilizing crossfire.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LostDevil
Profile Joined March 2005
Fiji283 Posts
October 05 2011 18:45 GMT
#48
Is the $800 build running SC2 in top settings overclocked?

I have no experience with overclocking but want to build a good comp at that resolution for SC2, D3. Then again it would be probably be worth it to go i2500k in case I want to learn in the future. If it is stock speed I might go with something like that or the $900 build.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 05 2011 18:52 GMT
#49
the processor is the exact same in the builds from 800$ onward and none of the GPUs have any problems with SC2 on ultra in 1080p.

To be honest though, if all you want to do is run SC2 1v1 with ultra settings you can just go with the 600$ build as that GPU can handle SC2 ultra just fine and the processor still is enough.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 19:11:04
October 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#50
What is cross firing? and the $1000 can run bf3 maxed?
i love my collosi and storms <3
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 05 2011 19:18 GMT
#51
yes
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Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
October 05 2011 19:22 GMT
#52
Hey guys; has anyone built the $600 build? How compatable is it with games other than SC2? How well can it run SC2? I am looking at buying the components and putting it together. Does anyone have any inpuot for the $600 build that a computer illiterate person can gauge it's use? Thanks guys!

~Jitsu
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 05 2011 19:23 GMT
#53
Unless BF3 is more demanding than Crysis:Warhead it should be fine...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 05 2011 19:29 GMT
#54
On October 06 2011 04:22 Jitsu wrote:
Hey guys; has anyone built the $600 build? How compatable is it with games other than SC2? How well can it run SC2? I am looking at buying the components and putting it together. Does anyone have any inpuot for the $600 build that a computer illiterate person can gauge it's use? Thanks guys!

~Jitsu

Well.

Here's pretty much the 500$ build with one notch weaker Graphics card, the main difference to the 600$ build is that both the processor and the graphics card are weaker, it's the June build:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diy-gaming-pc,2970-8.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diy-gaming-pc,2970-9.html

So the 500$ is going to be slightly better and 600$ is going to be a bit better than that but there's still the general idea.

Here's the difference between the GPU in those tests and the GPU in the 500$ and 600$ builds:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=291

And the difference between the CPU of the 600$ build to the one in those tests:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=363

This might give you somewhat of an idea.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 05 2011 19:40 GMT
#55
I got basicly the same build but with a phenom2 x6 1090t and it will run all games fine (i play crysis 2 1080p at 30 fps with a min of 20 very rarely)

and the phenom is a not nearly as good as the i5
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LostDevil
Profile Joined March 2005
Fiji283 Posts
October 05 2011 19:43 GMT
#56
in the 800$ build is this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

worth the 15$ more to swap out with the one you have in there?
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 05 2011 19:50 GMT
#57
Thanks for your help. Im going to go with the $1000 build to run BF3 and SC2 and much more games! thanks for helping out a nub <33
i love my collosi and storms <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 20:03:15
October 05 2011 19:50 GMT
#58
The card I have there is 10 dollars less and has a higher overclock and longer warranty so I don't know what you'd swap it for, the better cooler? It's a subjective decision that I couldn't answer.


On October 06 2011 04:50 roLangela wrote:
Thanks for your help. Im going to go with the $1000 build to run BF3 and SC2 and much more games! thanks for helping out a nub <33

Btw for a nub crossfirex might not be the ideal setup so you might want to consider a single 580 or 570 or 6950 or 6970, there might be driver hassle to begin with with BF3 and it's going to be more sensitive to being cooled properly, then again the performance should be better in the end if you can get everything to function properly.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 01:31 GMT
#59
So I changed some builds, added the cheapest 2500k build that gives you a balance of CPU and GPU-bottlenecking so that you don't overspend if SC2 is the only game you're concerned of maxing, a 300$ build that still runs SC2 in 1080p on low settings at 60+ fps, and some more changes.

Anything I've overlooked? Thoughts?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 06 2011 04:42 GMT
#60
On October 06 2011 04:50 Shikyo wrote:
The card I have there is 10 dollars less and has a higher overclock and longer warranty so I don't know what you'd swap it for, the better cooler? It's a subjective decision that I couldn't answer.


Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 04:50 roLangela wrote:
Thanks for your help. Im going to go with the $1000 build to run BF3 and SC2 and much more games! thanks for helping out a nub <33

Btw for a nub crossfirex might not be the ideal setup so you might want to consider a single 580 or 570 or 6950 or 6970, there might be driver hassle to begin with with BF3 and it's going to be more sensitive to being cooled properly, then again the performance should be better in the end if you can get everything to function properly.


Okay. So the new $1k build you posted is better for a nub;; due to it not having crossfire?
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