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Quartal
Profile Joined April 2011
140 Posts
October 06 2011 04:43 GMT
#61
just glancing at the $1000 build, I think an ASRock P67 Pro3 would be a better motherboard for that budget. It is around the same price, and iirc, it offers 10 power phases and a non crippled overclocking bios
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 09:51:49
October 06 2011 09:35 GMT
#62
which build can run BF3 on max setting on 1920x1080? (i know nothing about computer)

nvm i read page 3.... thank for info.. btw your math is wrong for the 1750$ build... 499.99$ x 2 = 899.98$ ?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 06 2011 09:39 GMT
#63
entirely max out with any fps problems or anything, 900 and up will do, if just max out with AA and sometimes going "low" on fps (understand 30), the 700/800 would be enough
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FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
October 06 2011 10:03 GMT
#64
On October 06 2011 18:35 Jaw wrote:
which build can run BF3 on max setting on 1920x1080? (i know nothing about computer)

nvm i read page 3.... thank for info.. btw your math is wrong for the 1750$ build... 499.99$ x 2 = 899.98$ ?

Depends on what you call "running", someone is fine with 30-40fps, for me its running fine if fps is constantly over 60fps even in biggest fights. At 1080p, GTX580 sli would do that.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 10:40:58
October 06 2011 10:40 GMT
#65
On October 06 2011 19:03 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 18:35 Jaw wrote:
which build can run BF3 on max setting on 1920x1080? (i know nothing about computer)

nvm i read page 3.... thank for info.. btw your math is wrong for the 1750$ build... 499.99$ x 2 = 899.98$ ?

Depends on what you call "running", someone is fine with 30-40fps, for me its running fine if fps is constantly over 60fps even in biggest fights. At 1080p, GTX580 sli would do that.


It also depends what you call "max settings." Some settings just take an obscene amount of costly hardware (a gazzillion aa and af etc) for minimum gain.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 12:31:30
October 06 2011 12:27 GMT
#66
On October 06 2011 19:03 FinBenton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 18:35 Jaw wrote:
which build can run BF3 on max setting on 1920x1080? (i know nothing about computer)

nvm i read page 3.... thank for info.. btw your math is wrong for the 1750$ build... 499.99$ x 2 = 899.98$ ?

Depends on what you call "running", someone is fine with 30-40fps, for me its running fine if fps is constantly over 60fps even in biggest fights. At 1080p, GTX580 sli would do that.

580sli is such a waste, you get almost same performance with 6950 crossfire because of how mediocre SLi scaling with the big cards is.


it wasn't a math fail, just a typo, overall price's the same

On October 06 2011 13:43 iREight wrote:
just glancing at the $1000 build, I think an ASRock P67 Pro3 would be a better motherboard for that budget. It is around the same price, and iirc, it offers 10 power phases and a non crippled overclocking bios

But it's not B3? o.O

though how severely crippled is the bios
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 06 2011 19:34 GMT
#67
Dude every board in the retail channel is a B3 revision... why the hell would it not be a B3 revision?

The MSI P67 G series of boards is basically a watered down GD board aka budget SLI board. I don't believe the BIOS would be as crippled as the C series of boards.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 19:38 GMT
#68
On October 07 2011 04:34 skyR wrote:
Dude every board in the retail channel is a B3 revision... why the hell would it not be a B3 revision?

The MSI P67 G series of boards is basically a watered down GD board aka budget SLI board. I don't believe the BIOS would be as crippled as the C series of boards.

okay well I'll just change them
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 20:20:18
October 06 2011 20:06 GMT
#69
Whats with the xigmatek psu's in a lot of those builds. Isn't that model some cheap generic HEC psu? (didnt read a review, so not sure)
Just pick something that fits the build and has a good price in general. There will allways be better deals, so advising 600W where 400-450W is needed is rather odd and confusing to me.
Anything with a 6950, and an i5 2500k or lower will run fine on an xfx core 450W(or something along those lines).

Anyway, this would have been a lot more usefull for europe since the prices are far more stable (no MIR).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#70
That PSU supposedly has no problems except with discrete sound cards etc. because its -12v voltage regulation is bad, and the reason I chose it is because it's cheap and has good connections and good efficiency and a good price. If I could be certain that every single GPU comes with the SATA - 6pin or 8pin adapters I definitely would alter the PSU recommendations.

Btw that one mobo you mentioned seems overpriced and from what I've googled it seems like the 90$ MSI board overclocks just fine, at least I haven't found complaints so
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ixirawr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States86 Posts
October 08 2011 07:32 GMT
#71
What is the cheapest price range in which one would be able to stream/cast games?
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
October 08 2011 18:17 GMT
#72
sounds good, maybe in the future add in budgets and/or prices ranges for people looking to stream too? For example if I want a good sc2 comp i'll spend the 600, but what about a 720 or 1080 stream?
love the builds though :D
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 08 2011 18:23 GMT
#73
On October 09 2011 03:17 phiinix wrote:
sounds good, maybe in the future add in budgets and/or prices ranges for people looking to stream too? For example if I want a good sc2 comp i'll spend the 600, but what about a 720 or 1080 stream?
love the builds though :D

Well then it'd be the 800$ build as it's the best CPU and streaming is relatively CPU-intense. Though as the builds are suggested for SC2 they're going to have quite good CPUs by default and in reality, even the i5 2400 is going to stream very effortlessly at 720p, probably 1080p as well unless you go crazy with the bitrates.

Might need to change some things about the builds and I guess I'll add an optional section now...
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 08 2011 18:43 GMT
#74
On October 07 2011 05:06 Madoga wrote:
Whats with the xigmatek psu's in a lot of those builds. Isn't that model some cheap generic HEC psu? (didnt read a review, so not sure)
Just pick something that fits the build and has a good price in general. There will allways be better deals, so advising 600W where 400-450W is needed is rather odd and confusing to me.
Anything with a 6950, and an i5 2500k or lower will run fine on an xfx core 450W(or something along those lines).

Anyway, this would have been a lot more usefull for europe since the prices are far more stable (no MIR).


Yeah I think that Xigmatek PSU (NRP-PC602) is a cheap HEC model. Al the NRP_Px02 are HEC I think. I'd choose something else for most of the builds, but I doubt these are disastrously poor.

OklahomaWolf didn't like much the PC502:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=158

Here the voltage regulation of the PC602 doesn't look nearly as poor (no scope shots so poor ripple/noise above cannot be confirmed):
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/957/pg1/xigmatek-nrp-pc602-600w-psu-review-introduction.html

Good efficiency and caps, but maybe poor performance?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 18:56:32
October 08 2011 18:48 GMT
#75
On October 09 2011 03:43 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 05:06 Madoga wrote:
Whats with the xigmatek psu's in a lot of those builds. Isn't that model some cheap generic HEC psu? (didnt read a review, so not sure)
Just pick something that fits the build and has a good price in general. There will allways be better deals, so advising 600W where 400-450W is needed is rather odd and confusing to me.
Anything with a 6950, and an i5 2500k or lower will run fine on an xfx core 450W(or something along those lines).

Anyway, this would have been a lot more usefull for europe since the prices are far more stable (no MIR).


Yeah I think that Xigmatek PSU (NRP-PC602) is a cheap HEC model. Al the NRP_Px02 are HEC I think. I'd choose something else for most of the builds, but I doubt these are disastrously poor.

OklahomaWolf didn't like much the PC502:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=158

Here the voltage regulation of the PC602 doesn't look nearly as poor (no scope shots so poor ripple/noise above cannot be confirmed):
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/957/pg1/xigmatek-nrp-pc602-600w-psu-review-introduction.html

Good efficiency and caps, but maybe poor performance?

If I get the confirmation from anyone that every graphics card will ship with the necessary SATA to PCIe adapters I'll happily change it =P Unless you know of a cheaper / same price PSU with 2 PCIE connectors

molex yeah sure <_<

I know it can be confirmed but these builds are just guidelines and I won't exactly recommend a specific graphics card model in them
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 08 2011 18:53 GMT
#76
You mean molex... and this can be confirmed just by looking at reviews or pictures.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 08 2011 18:56 GMT
#77
Uh, almost every single graphics card that needs it comes with adapters. There are a few models that don't, but you can just check newegg pictures of the product you're considering. They will show the adapters that come in the box.

For example, I checked some of the ones you linked, and the HIS HD 6850 comes with one, the HIS HD 6870 comes with two, the XFX HD 6790 does not come with one, the Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti comes with two, and the Sapphire HD 6970 comes with two.

Prices change all the time, so I'm sure these may not end up cheaper, but sometimes they will be.

Antec Neo Eco (Seasonic S12II) 520W has two ($55):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Silverstone Strider Essential 400W (Sirtec I think) has two ($49):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256060

Corsair CX500 V2 (CWT DSAII) has two ($60):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Rosewill Green Series 530W (ATNG, see the hardwaresecrets review of 630W) has two ($50):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 08 2011 18:58 GMT
#78
Thanks alot, that'll help!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ChestKunt
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 11 2011 19:24 GMT
#79
For the 1K budget; i read the reviews for the mobo and they say that its difficult to insert two graphics card due to it having a weird placement.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 19:42:14
October 11 2011 19:35 GMT
#80
On October 12 2011 04:24 roLangela wrote:
For the 1K budget; i read the reviews for the mobo and they say that its difficult to insert two graphics card due to it having a weird placement.

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130576

If that's the one you mean, since it's the one there right now, I do in fact believe it's difficult to insert two graphics cards.

Mostly because it doesn't have the slots for it. At all. Unless you maybe use some woogity and bad old shit, then maybe.


Nevermind, wrong build.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583

How is that awkward placement? That's how it's supposed to be done, you can get air in between them... an entire empty slot between them, and one of each other slot available even with multiple dual-slot cards.

It's near perfect, unless the motherboard itself has flawed spacing.
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