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jacosajh
2919 Posts
I still don't like their $500 build. I'd rather get H61 + i3 2100. It performs better. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=88 The Phenom II X4 955 is overclockable, but would need an aftermarket heatsink, which they didn't include. And if you need really need quad-core that bad, you swap the 6870 for a 6850. That added with the savings of a CPU cooler can get you an i5 2300 instead. | ||
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poopman
Canada83 Posts
On October 05 2011 05:50 Shikyo wrote: so how does that work? why does the 500$ build have a 6870 and a PSU with only one 6pin cable? is that enough? Though it's true, I shall change my build a little. okay changed 500$ build, removed 600$ build as obsolete. It's nice that my 1k build is better than theirs though. if you read further, they said that the gpu came with 2 power adapters, one of which they used | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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jacosajh
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 05 2011 06:03 poopman wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 05 2011 05:50 Shikyo wrote: so how does that work? why does the 500$ build have a 6870 and a PSU with only one 6pin cable? is that enough? Though it's true, I shall change my build a little. okay changed 500$ build, removed 600$ build as obsolete. It's nice that my 1k build is better than theirs though. if you read further, they said that the gpu came with 2 power adapters, one of which they used do all GPUs come with those or just some brands? o.O That'd mean I could cut 10$ from like 4 of those builds. On October 05 2011 06:03 jacosajh wrote: They overclocked with the stock cooler it seems. Anyway what I find hilarious is that pretty much all of the performance increase in comparison to their last build is because of the better GPU and the overclocked AMD processor functions worse / at same level and consumes over double the power. You can use a 6-pin adapter which comes with the graphics card. I still don't like their $500 build. I'd rather get H61 + i3 2100. It performs better. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=88 The Phenom II X4 955 is overclockable, but would need an aftermarket heatsink, which they didn't include. And if you need really need quad-core that bad, you swap the 6870 for a 6850. That added with the savings of a CPU cooler can get you an i5 2300 instead. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 05 2011 06:14 skyR wrote: Most GPUs come with adapters... mine didn't so <_> | ||
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
You can overclock with the stock cooler because you probably aren't going to get to the same level as prime95 playing a video game. So it's pretty safe. Still, they overclocked it to basically a Phenom II X4 980, which is still worse than the i3 2100. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=289 And yes, at much more power consumption. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/JIMMS-GAMER-MORNINGSTAR?pid=1317766343462 http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/SF3D-SB-SE-NV?pid=1317766317791 Wtf is this shit? | ||
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Puritas
Germany39 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Molybdenum
United States358 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png) Aside from some of the AMD recommendations, it's not bad. Of course, tailored advice is ideal to target different resolutions/expectations/uses. I'd like to see some mention of SSDs, I'd much rather have an SSD over CFX/SLI, as it would be more beneficial even if it doesn't add FPS. The vast majority of users don't have anything bigger than 1900x1080 or 1900x1200 and don't play eyefinity, making CFX/SLI a waste in the $800-1000 range where you started to suggest it. If you really want to have this guide (we already have the build thread, which may be better because prices/sales change faster than the OP can be updated) then you should explain parts to help people choose based on their setup (resolution, streaming, desire to OC). | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Btw my 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, 1000 are all better and the first build of his that comes to the level of my 1230$ build is his 1360$ build, also he doesn't include CPU coolers and he uses overclocking mobos with locked GPUs not to mention AMD boards and CPUs -> I dunno why you linked that Btw most of that info is in the Computer Build Resources-thread so I don't get why it should be here as well. EDIT: Okay although his builds are bad he has some decent info there that might or might not be useful | ||
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CharlieBrownsc
Canada598 Posts
On October 05 2011 11:31 Molybdenum wrote: I thought this (below) was a pretty decent guide for budgeting a computer. It also gives a bit of detail on the parts and how to go about choosing them. It usually gets updated about once a month. + Show Spoiler + Aside from some of the AMD recommendations, it's not bad. Of course, tailored advice is ideal to target different resolutions/expectations/uses. I'd like to see some mention of SSDs, I'd much rather have an SSD over CFX/SLI, as it would be more beneficial even if it doesn't add FPS. The vast majority of users don't have anything bigger than 1900x1080 or 1900x1200 and don't play eyefinity, making CFX/SLI a waste in the $800-1000 range where you started to suggest it. If you really want to have this guide (we already have the build thread, which may be better because prices/sales change faster than the OP can be updated) then you should explain parts to help people choose based on their setup (resolution, streaming, desire to OC). That chart is silly, it doesn't reccommend an H61 for anything.... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 05 2011 11:58 CharlieBrownsc wrote: That chart is silly, it doesn't reccommend an H61 for anything.... "This guide only recommends gaming mobos, not cheaper office / home usage mobos" -> recommends a Z68 board with a pentium 630. | ||
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Molybdenum
United States358 Posts
That guide is a month old, it's due for the new version, so the pricing is bound to be a little out of date. Some of the advice is a little wonky, but then again, I find CFX/SLI on a $700 budget to be strange. Part of intel's sandy bridge line was released on the day the guide was published, maybe in the next version he'll take a look at the low end SB pentiums and H61 as an option. Probably the best part is the actual explanation of the parts, which yours has none of. Explaining parts is key as it can help make a more intelligent decision and allow for switching out of parts based on availability/pricing/needs. Frankly, the computer resource build thread covers all of this information. There were a few guides like this before (a laughable budget guide by b-something88 and a rather nice sandy bridge guide by a176 in the early SB days) but neither of them stood up the the comp. resource thread. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 05 2011 12:39 iTzSnypah wrote: For the 500 price one, IF you dual monitor I would suggest the I3-2105/2125 because of the hd3000 graphics, your gaming monitor would be on the 6870 and the second monitor on the Hd3000 albeit you would need a mobo that works with it... Uh... that's not how it works. If you were doing Eyefinity with two monitors (you shouldn't), you wouldn't (shouldn't) be using a single 6870... | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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