On August 01 2011 13:14 Phayze wrote:
Until you buy a mechanical keyboard and have your world changed. Not going to go into a mech vs cheap membrane here, it might not matter specifically in casual gaming but as far as life expectancy (of the keyboard) potential rsi injuries and overall performance there most certainly is a difference. Sure you can repeatedly spend small amounts of money for a mediocre keyboard, or you can get a mechanical keyboard which is great for typing and probably never have it break in your lifetime. $100 now, or $100 over the next 5 years, you be the judge.
Until you buy a mechanical keyboard and have your world changed. Not going to go into a mech vs cheap membrane here, it might not matter specifically in casual gaming but as far as life expectancy (of the keyboard) potential rsi injuries and overall performance there most certainly is a difference. Sure you can repeatedly spend small amounts of money for a mediocre keyboard, or you can get a mechanical keyboard which is great for typing and probably never have it break in your lifetime. $100 now, or $100 over the next 5 years, you be the judge.
Excuse me but list me a case of a RSI of the finger due to typing, RSI has more often to do with posture then what you're tapping. Most injuries due to typing are avoided by using a proper wrist rest and a proper chair and desk to match the appropriate height you should be sitting for your arms to slightly rest at an incline and be positioned directly in front of you.
Also your point of money saved is purely based on how a person take care of the keyboard, i've seen office and school keyboards last 5+ years on the other end i've seen keyboard dead in a month because idiots spill fluid and basically shit all over it. Same principle applies to mech keyboards most often it's much more deadly to spill something on such a keyboard.
Along with a 15 dollar keyboard say last a good 2 years(A short but acceptable period) over 10 years if you bought a mech keyboard saying cost 100 dollars you did not save money 15 * 5 replacements every 2 years is 75 dollars so you lost 15 dollars. If over 5 years hell let's make it you bought a new keyboard every year that's still not saving till the 7th year.
Say you spend 20 dollars on a keyboard because you like media keys, something most mech keyboard don't have, that's only a saving after 6 years on the replace it per a year cycle and 12 year if you replaced it every other year.
Hell even at 2 years a K120 from logitech is under warranty so you would save money if you just registered your keyboard with them went you bought it, logitech often offers free shipping so if it broke down every year you could have it replaced for nearly free every time.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/6692
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/footer/terms-of-use?wt.mc_id=usym_redirect_/warranty&id=3101
Ofc the warranty is likely void because you beat the shit out of the keyboard that's why it broke in 1 to 2 years. And likely your mech keyboard would not last much longer then that under such abusive conditions.
Your points are fallacious and not helpful.
as far as keyboard http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/6692 is what i like when buying a nice cheap one, the keys are half height but still easily distinguishable though feel and very similar to laptop keys in feel when pressed, not as flat though, sense i usually work between a desktop and laptop i find it usable and to that end worth the 14 bucks to buy it.
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http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2009/04/the_psychology_of_the_sale.php
I was doing my grocery shopping yesterday when I stumbled upon a discount that I assumed was a clerical mistake: some fancy olive oil had been reduced from $23 to $9. Needless to say, I immediately put a bottle in my cart, even though I didn't need another bottle of olive oil.
But then, just a few minutes later, I began to wonder: why was the olive oil so drastically reduced in price? Is something wrong with it? What isn't Whole Foods telling me? That nagging suspicion - and I'm sure it was completely unfounded - was enough for me to put the bottle back on the shelf. It was too good a deal.
My perverse behavior illustrates something interesting about consumers. In general, people rely on a simple heuristic, or mental short-cut, when trying to evaluate the quality of a product: we assume that more expensive things are of higher quality. In other words, you get what you pay for. As a result, we automatically suspect products on sale of being faulty, or inferior. And because our expectations profoundly influence our experience, an olive oil that we expect to be lower in quality will actually taste lower in quality.
Look, for example, at this witty little experiment, which I describe in my book. Baba Shiv, a neuroeconomist at Stanford, supplied a group of people with Sobe Adrenaline Rush, an "energy" drink that was supposed to make them feel more alert and energetic. (The drink contained a potent brew of sugar and caffeine which, the bottle promised, would impart "superior functionality"). Some participants paid full price for the drinks, while others were offered a discount. The participants were then asked to solve a series of word puzzles. Shiv found that people who paid discounted prices consistently solved about thirty percent fewer puzzles than the people who paid full price for the drinks. The subjects were convinced that the stuff on sale was much less potent, even though all the drinks were identical.
Why did the cheaper energy drink prove less effective? According to Shiv, consumers typically suffer from a version of the placebo effect. Since we expect cheaper goods to be less effective, they generally are less effective, even if they are identical to more expensive products. This is why brand-name aspirin works better than generic aspirin, or why Coke tastes better than cheaper colas, even if most consumers can't tell the difference in blind taste tests. "We have these general beliefs about the world⎯for example, that cheaper products are of lower quality⎯and they translate into specific expectations about specific products," said Shiv. "Then, once these expectations are activated, they start to really impact our behavior.
Over time, the presence of sales can really diminish a brand. I used to buy all my clothes at the Gap - I'm stuck with the fashion sense of an 8 year old boy - but, starting a few years ago, I noticed that everything at the Gap appeared to be on sale. This is problematic for two reasons: 1) It triggers deflationary expectations - why buy the t-shirt now when you can buy the same t-shirt for less in two weeks, after yet another "final" sale? and 2) It erodes the quality of the brand, at least as perceived by consumers. I implicitly assume that Gap has to put t-shirts on sale because they're of lower quality, when the actual reason might have to do with the overproduction of some factory in Turkey, or an inventory accounting rule, or some other banal corporate mistake. Nevertheless, the sale has had a psychological impact - I associate the brand with stuff people don't like. There must be a reason why that shirt is so cheap and why the price of that olive oil has been slashed.
For comparison, look at American Apparel. Have you ever seen an American Apparel store advertise a sale in the window? Or slash the price of their t-shirts? I thought not. They know that they are in the perception business, and that how we perceive a t-shirt depends on many other factors that have nothing do with the quality of cotton. Sometimes, the easiest way to make the consumer happier with a purchase is to increase the price.
When you use phrases like change your life on a product that is a give away of a bias and faulty approach likely lead though reading countless forum posts saying it's a good product to invest your money in and thus once obtained you believe it was the shit and hold it true to this day because either they are right and it is well worth the 100 dollar or you just spent a lot of money on a keyboard that is essentially the same functionality as one at 1/6th the cost
On August 02 2011 04:39 FuRRyChoBo wrote:
go to walmart and buy a cheap keyboard that looks like it would come with a dell setup from best buy. there's nothing more ridiculous than people thinking you need a mechanical keyboard and some crazy razer mouse to play sc2.
go to walmart and buy a cheap keyboard that looks like it would come with a dell setup from best buy. there's nothing more ridiculous than people thinking you need a mechanical keyboard and some crazy razer mouse to play sc2.
A mouse simply on credence of preference of dpi ie how much a mouse can go on the screen has value, but a keyboard has no value, SC1 which much much higher apm pros played on essentally disposable keyboards they got in bulk from samsung hit 400+ apm on without skipping a beat, some on ball mice which was fine for the 640x480 size SC1 but may not fit the same on a 1920x1200 screen. As far as the keyboard these are people who play 8+ hours at 300+ apm everyday to stay sharp if they wear down keyboards ever 2 weeks or w.e it may be that is from heavy use that a person outside of that scene is unlikely to match.