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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 18:40:37
March 11 2012 18:39 GMT
#1361
On March 12 2012 03:36 Zushen wrote:
i decided i would like to go the intel route but i have one last quetion. would it be worth it to wait for the new ivy bridge or just get an i5 now?

Depends on your current system, if you have a fairly decent system right now i would not advise buying a i5, if you have a terrible system i maybe even wouldnt suggest waiting for ivy bridge as it will have fairly little performance benefits in gaming over an i5 2500k lets say, anyway.
Jomz
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom117 Posts
March 11 2012 20:37 GMT
#1362
What would you upgrade in this system for better gaming performance :-
Intel G840 @ 2.8 Ghz
Gigabyte H67M-D2-B3
DDR3 4GB @ 1333MHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti

I was thinking of processor first.
I don't know anything about Mboards
I don't know what my PSU is.
I'm so badass I can unscramble eggs.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 11 2012 20:38 GMT
#1363
The majority of games will benefit much more from a better GPU than a CPU. For something significant, you would need to upgrade to a ~$500 card such as a 7950 / 7970.
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 20:49:32
March 11 2012 20:45 GMT
#1364
For laptops, is there really a difference between i7-2630QM and the i7-2670QM that makes it worth the $75 difference?

Also, if I have a laptop and I want to stream, should I just instantly give up my dreams of streaming?

EDIT: this is the base model I want to stream on http://www.xoticpc.com/force-1761-msi-1761-p-3152.html?wconfigure=yes

I'll prob end up getting i7-2630QM and 12 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM
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Jomz
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom117 Posts
March 11 2012 21:44 GMT
#1365
What would an upgrade in CPU do that system?
Anything major, say I upgrade to an i5 2500k?
I'm so badass I can unscramble eggs.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 11 2012 21:52 GMT
#1366
On March 12 2012 05:45 deathtrance wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
For laptops, is there really a difference between i7-2630QM and the i7-2670QM that makes it worth the $75 difference?

Also, if I have a laptop and I want to stream, should I just instantly give up my dreams of streaming?

EDIT: this is the base model I want to stream on http://www.xoticpc.com/force-1761-msi-1761-p-3152.html?wconfigure=yes

I'll prob end up getting i7-2630QM and 12 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM


Just a 200MHz difference, so nothing significant.

On March 12 2012 06:44 Jomz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What would an upgrade in CPU do that system?
Anything major, say I upgrade to an i5 2500k?


You would gain two cores and up to 900MHz. So for gaming, not much...

Since you have a H67 board, you want a 2500 instead of a 2500k.
Cerotix
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada121 Posts
March 11 2012 22:05 GMT
#1367
this may be stupid but thats why im posting here lol -- I was always under the impression that if you were going with an intel cpu that you should be getting a nvidia card instead of radeon, is this true?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 11 2012 22:07 GMT
#1368
No.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 22:20:43
March 11 2012 22:20 GMT
#1369
On March 12 2012 07:05 Cerotix wrote:
this may be stupid but thats why im posting here lol -- I was always under the impression that if you were going with an intel cpu that you should be getting a nvidia card instead of radeon, is this true?


Only time it really matters is with Linux/Unix. Not by hardware. And that's just a current state of drivers thing. Has been for a while, but no guarantees it will always be that way.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 00:54:19
March 12 2012 00:53 GMT
#1370
So, is HDTV shopping a primarily subjective thing? As in go in to best buy, look at them, and find one we like? Or are some awful like monitor shopping below a certain price point? My brother and I are potentially looking for an HDTV for next year, was thinking about a 40-50inch one below 600$. Or just the best price/"performance" we can get around there, regardless of screen size (although not too small)

Edit: And if it isn't, does anybody know a good place to learn up on buying TVs?
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Jomz
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom117 Posts
March 12 2012 00:59 GMT
#1371
On March 12 2012 06:52 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 06:44 Jomz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What would an upgrade in CPU do that system?
Anything major, say I upgrade to an i5 2500k?


You would gain two cores and up to 900MHz. So for gaming, not much...

Since you have a H67 board, you want a 2500 instead of a 2500k.


Ah thanks.
Whats the difference between the 2500 and 2500k?
I'm so badass I can unscramble eggs.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 12 2012 01:04 GMT
#1372
On March 12 2012 09:53 Alryk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So, is HDTV shopping a primarily subjective thing? As in go in to best buy, look at them, and find one we like? Or are some awful like monitor shopping below a certain price point? My brother and I are potentially looking for an HDTV for next year, was thinking about a 40-50inch one below 600$. Or just the best price/"performance" we can get around there, regardless of screen size (although not too small)

Edit: And if it isn't, does anybody know a good place to learn up on buying TVs?


Well similar to monitors. It's subjective but you still need to do research.

On March 12 2012 09:59 Jomz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2012 06:52 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 06:44 Jomz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What would an upgrade in CPU do that system?
Anything major, say I upgrade to an i5 2500k?


You would gain two cores and up to 900MHz. So for gaming, not much...

Since you have a H67 board, you want a 2500 instead of a 2500k.


Ah thanks.
Whats the difference between the 2500 and 2500k?


The 2500k has HD3000 and an unlocked multiplier. Since you can't overclock and will never be using the IGP, neither matters.
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
March 12 2012 04:58 GMT
#1373
Hi guys, I have a question, I am looking to upgrade my pc a little bit, and really I THINK , not sure , but I think my processor its the crappy here.. this is my computer:

ASUS M4N68T-M V2 AM3 NVIDIA Geforce 7025/nForce 630a Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Green AX5450 1GBK3-SH Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar) 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

AMD Athlon(tm) II x2 255 Processor 3.10 GHz

4 gb ram DDR3 (2x2) --->not sure which one , lol.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Is it the processor the bad or the graphics card? And what would be the best processor I could get for my motherboard?

Does this graphics card works with my motherboard?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121442

Ty ty!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 12 2012 05:39 GMT
#1374
Both are not great, but for games, the HD 5450 is pretty bad and is the bigger problem. Also, for many games, there's not anything compatible with your motherboard that would be significantly better. Best for gaming would be a Phenom II X4. The ones with the highest clock speeds are a bit faster but not worth the extra cost, but I don't really recommend you get one.

If you don't have a higher-end power supply, something like a HD 6670 is okay and a huge upgrade over an HD 5450, but an HD 7750 is a decent amount better than an HD 6670 for only about $20 more. Any modern graphics card uses a PCI Express interface of some kind and is compatible with your motherboard. If you have a slimline case that only takes half-height expansion cards, then you would need to be careful to get a graphics card that is half height (low profile)--the only potential issues are the graphics cards not physically fitting in your case, and you not having a power supply that can support a higher-end graphics card.
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
March 12 2012 06:23 GMT
#1375
My power supply says in the back 115V. (how much would I need?)
And my tower it is a Cyberpower. (I don't really know the size)

This is the one i was looking at before :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121442

this is the one I looked at now that you said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131461

Do you think that if i change the graphics card it would be a big improvement in my game?
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And would I need to change my processor or is it alright? If i do have to I was looking at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

I know it isnt compatible with my motherboard because of the socket, but if I find a motherboard with AM3+ should that work?

I only have 300 dollars to work with so I am just trying to get the most out of them as i can.
Thank you very much!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 12 2012 06:35 GMT
#1376
Then that means it takes in 115V from the wall, so if you were in another country with 230V power, you would fry it. That's not a relevant detail for what you're looking at. Relevant details would be the brand and model, and anything regarding max wattages, and max current rating on +12V, +5V, and +3.3V. Anyway, a 7750 should run on pretty much any power supply you could have in your system.

It depends on which game you're talking about (some will still be limited by the processor), but for increasing graphics details settings, generally there will be a huge improvement by upgrading the video card over a 5450. Some games like SC2 will run okay but not that well on an Athlon II X2, but it's not a big deal for many others.

I would prefer the Sapphire or HIS 7750 over the PowerColor because the former two seem to have larger and better cooling solutions that are probably also quieter. Those three are the same price.

The FX-8120 is a terrible idea for gaming and not better than a Phenom II. See here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html

Your Athlon II X2 would be a bit worse than the Athlon II X3 and X4 in some games but pretty much the same in some others. The Pentium G630 is about $70-80 and requires a $50+ motherboard.
lurchpanda
Profile Joined May 2011
United States51 Posts
March 12 2012 07:50 GMT
#1377
On March 12 2012 00:57 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 00:39 lurchpanda wrote:
If i install a program on my :/C drive (such as starcraft or a recording program) can i just drag it onto my :/D drive or do i have to do something else?


Depends on the program. Why not just install to the intended drive to begin with?


Space issues on my main hard drive, and the fact that i have a slow internet connection so it takes a long time to redownload things
You always hear "The glass is half empty" or "The glass is half full". I say we stop choosing what the glass is, and let the glass decide what it wants to be
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 12 2012 08:48 GMT
#1378
On March 12 2012 16:50 lurchpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 00:57 JingleHell wrote:
On March 12 2012 00:39 lurchpanda wrote:
If i install a program on my :/C drive (such as starcraft or a recording program) can i just drag it onto my :/D drive or do i have to do something else?


Depends on the program. Why not just install to the intended drive to begin with?


Space issues on my main hard drive, and the fact that i have a slow internet connection so it takes a long time to redownload things

There are a number of references to a programs location that will not update if you move the program folder from one disk to another. Shortcuts in the start menu and on the desktop for example. Also, there may be entries in the Registry that rely on the programs location being known. Exactly how much will break and what you'll have to do to fix it depends on the program. SC2 is fairly well-mannered in that sense, all you need to do is copy the folder and update your shortcuts. Other programs may not be as easy.

A fairly easy way of getting around this is by using links. This is a concept that allows you to move the folder to another location while making the OS believe that it's still where it used to be. Do the following:

- Move the folder (lets say it's C:\Program Files\Starcraft 2 as an example) to the new disk (for example D:\Program Files\Starcraft 2). Make sure the original folder is gone.
- Open a command terminal (press Windows key + R, type 'cmd').
- Type: mklink /D "C:\Program Files\Starcraft 2" "D:\Program Files\Starcraft 2"
- That's it.

What this does is create a link from the location where your SC2 folder used to be to where it is now. Programs that try to access the original folder will get redirected automatically without knowing it, so it appears to them as if nothing has changed.

Beware that these type of file operations can make your program unusable if something goes wrong and you don't know what you're doing. As always, make backups of important files and settings.
Such flammable little insects!
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:45:39
March 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#1379
Is it worth waiting for the new laptop nVidia GPUs and Ivy Bridge, or are they going to be fucking expensive as hell?

Or should I just stick with this laptop http://www.xoticpc.com/force-1761-msi-1761-p-3152.html?wconfigure=yes for its price?
WorstMicroNA
xasuma
Profile Joined October 2010
Chile62 Posts
March 13 2012 00:16 GMT
#1380
which graphics card is better?

MSI N550GTX-Ti-M2D1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127577

or

SAPPHIRE 11202-00-20G Radeon HD 7750 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969

(Specifically for SC2,my ultimate goal is to stream i a nice quality :D )

And what do you think about this processor?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

And really what motherboard would I look for if i want a Intel CPU? I really see very different prices and I have no clue whts good. Thank you
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