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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
March 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#1321
You did not list a resolution. Performance depends highly on resolution.

Anyway, GT 540M will only do medium at 1366x768 or less.

For better all-around gaming performance, you can get away without a Quad-core CPU but you'll want a stronger GPU.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 17:43:40
March 07 2012 17:41 GMT
#1322
It can't go above 1366x768 anyway, and I don't necessarily care about playing on a big resolution. The reason I went with a 540M is because prices go way up for better graphics cards. I choose the i7 because it was only slightly more expensive than it's i5 counterparts (~30 Euro more), I was originally only planning on getting an i5.

Like I said, I'm looking for someone who has first-hand experience with running this game on the 540M, because I read some conflicting opinions on it.
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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
March 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#1323
That's why opinions are opinions and we have benchmarks to prove stuff.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
March 07 2012 19:25 GMT
#1324
I've got a bit of a dilema.

Heres my current case setup:
1x 240mm intake, front
1x 240mm exhaust, top
2x 120mm exhaust, top
1x push/pull config intake from the back, above the gpu

I'm worried that my gpu is blowing out hot air, which then rises and makes my cpu cooler (h60) intake warm air.
My gpu is a sapphire hd 6870, but it doesnt really feel like it has air coming out the back, it seems to dump all the heat inside my case, which is probably even worse. Is there any solution to this?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 07 2012 19:27 GMT
#1325
On March 08 2012 04:25 Nabutso wrote:
I've got a bit of a dilema.

Heres my current case setup:
1x 240mm intake, front
1x 240mm exhaust, top
2x 120mm exhaust, top
1x push/pull config intake from the back, above the gpu

I'm worried that my gpu is blowing out hot air, which then rises and makes my cpu cooler (h60) intake warm air.
My gpu is a sapphire hd 6870, but it doesnt really feel like it has air coming out the back, it seems to dump all the heat inside my case, which is probably even worse. Is there any solution to this?


That sounds like a lot of cooling. (5 fans may even be a bit overkill lol). I would say you need to check your temps. If they look good then you are just fine.
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Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
March 07 2012 19:34 GMT
#1326
My temps are fine, I just think they could be better.

Anyone have experiences with aftermarket gpu cooling?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 07 2012 19:42 GMT
#1327
On March 08 2012 04:34 Nabutso wrote:
My temps are fine, I just think they could be better.

Anyone have experiences with aftermarket gpu cooling?


Huh? If your temps are fine why do you care unless you are going to overclock?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:02:54
March 07 2012 20:01 GMT
#1328
Well, that's what happens with most non-reference GPU cooling designs--a lot of hot air goes straight back inside the case. The same would be true for most aftermarket GPU cooling as well.

If it really bothers you that much, you want a graphics card with blower design, which generally come on the reference designs for higher-end graphics cards. There are a few non-reference designs like some of the HIS IceQ that also probably push most of the hot air through the shroud and hopefully through the vents on the expansion slot cover, rather than into the case.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 07 2012 21:17 GMT
#1329
On March 08 2012 05:01 Myrmidon wrote:
Well, that's what happens with most non-reference GPU cooling designs--a lot of hot air goes straight back inside the case. The same would be true for most aftermarket GPU cooling as well.

If it really bothers you that much, you want a graphics card with blower design, which generally come on the reference designs for higher-end graphics cards. There are a few non-reference designs like some of the HIS IceQ that also probably push most of the hot air through the shroud and hopefully through the vents on the expansion slot cover, rather than into the case.


These are also frequently louder than radial cooling.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
March 07 2012 22:04 GMT
#1330
On March 08 2012 04:25 Nabutso wrote:
I've got a bit of a dilema.

Heres my current case setup:
1x 240mm intake, front
1x 240mm exhaust, top
2x 120mm exhaust, top
1x push/pull config intake from the back, above the gpu

I'm worried that my gpu is blowing out hot air, which then rises and makes my cpu cooler (h60) intake warm air.
My gpu is a sapphire hd 6870, but it doesnt really feel like it has air coming out the back, it seems to dump all the heat inside my case, which is probably even worse. Is there any solution to this?


If that's your concern, switch your push/pull config to pull from the front of the case and push it out the back. If one of your top exhaust fans is located in front of your cpu cooler, flip it over to intake. It will pull in cool air, which is then sucked into your cpu cooler and pushed out the back. This way, all the hot air is going out the back and you won't be recycling it.

Do you really have 4 fans on the top of your case? Or is there a mistake there? I'd set the fans so that your only fan on top is an intake in front of the cpu cooler. It's best to set up a direction of airflow, in most cases, from front to back. Flipping your cpu cooler fans around will help this. If you have open 5.25" bays, you may be able to put a 120 mm fan in those and use it as an additional intake that points at the cpu cooler a bit.

If you don't want that hot air dumped back into your case, you can remove all the PCI slot covers (even if they're honeycomb, it still blocks air) and this will allow for the hot air to move out. A fan behind your HDD cage can help to push this hot air out (my tests show that you don't want too fast of a fan doing this).
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 23:02:30
March 07 2012 23:01 GMT
#1331
I did a few tweaks to it that I think will work out well when my cpu gets back from intel RMA.

top: 1 240mm intake
back: push/pull intake
front: 240mm intake
side: 4x 120mm exhaust

I think this should help push the hot air out since it's mostly around the gpu, which the exhaust fans will be taking air from.

Heat wont recycle through the back intake or the front or top intake either, since it'll be pushed in front of my monitors instead.

I've had a few 'interesting' ideas for my setup aswell. My case is about 1 ft away from the window behind it (the case is to the right, my desk isnt a foot from the wall). I've considering running a system of fans that would push cool air from outside right through my cpu radiator. Is this stupid or the best idea ever?
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
March 08 2012 00:19 GMT
#1332
On March 08 2012 08:01 Nabutso wrote:
I did a few tweaks to it that I think will work out well when my cpu gets back from intel RMA.

top: 1 240mm intake
back: push/pull intake
front: 240mm intake
side: 4x 120mm exhaust

I think this should help push the hot air out since it's mostly around the gpu, which the exhaust fans will be taking air from.

Heat wont recycle through the back intake or the front or top intake either, since it'll be pushed in front of my monitors instead.

I've had a few 'interesting' ideas for my setup aswell. My case is about 1 ft away from the window behind it (the case is to the right, my desk isnt a foot from the wall). I've considering running a system of fans that would push cool air from outside right through my cpu radiator. Is this stupid or the best idea ever?


Taking air in from the front and back might not be a good idea, the air will fight in the middle and it will be harder to establish a flow, even with exhausts on the side.

The window thing works, people have done it, but you will need to be careful to avoid condensation. If you do some googling, there's probably some guides and tips
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 01:45:33
March 08 2012 01:44 GMT
#1333
Should I turn my front intake into an exhaust then?

My CPU cooler cant reach the front to have a front intake, and the radiator can't be mounted on the 240mm top intake either.

The only strange thing would be that my intake would be going from top and back to front and side and exhausting, and heat doesnt normally move that way.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#1334
On March 08 2012 10:44 Nabutso wrote:
Should I turn my front intake into an exhaust then?

My CPU cooler cant reach the front to have a front intake, and the radiator can't be mounted on the 240mm top intake either.

The only strange thing would be that my intake would be going from top and back to front and side and exhausting, and heat doesnt normally move that way.

Why don't you list the temperatures you are having?
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Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 01:50:37
March 08 2012 01:49 GMT
#1335
On March 08 2012 10:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 10:44 Nabutso wrote:
Should I turn my front intake into an exhaust then?

My CPU cooler cant reach the front to have a front intake, and the radiator can't be mounted on the 240mm top intake either.

The only strange thing would be that my intake would be going from top and back to front and side and exhausting, and heat doesnt normally move that way.

Why don't you list the temperatures you are having?


I can't test the temps right now, but with my previous setup they were totally fine (71c at full load gpu 6870, 73c at full load cpu 2600k oc to 4.5ghz).

I just think it's possible to have them even lower, and moving around fans is free.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
March 08 2012 08:28 GMT
#1336
On March 08 2012 10:49 Nabutso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 10:47 Shikyo wrote:
On March 08 2012 10:44 Nabutso wrote:
Should I turn my front intake into an exhaust then?

My CPU cooler cant reach the front to have a front intake, and the radiator can't be mounted on the 240mm top intake either.

The only strange thing would be that my intake would be going from top and back to front and side and exhausting, and heat doesnt normally move that way.

Why don't you list the temperatures you are having?


I can't test the temps right now, but with my previous setup they were totally fine (71c at full load gpu 6870, 73c at full load cpu 2600k oc to 4.5ghz).

I just think it's possible to have them even lower, and moving around fans is free.


What's your ambient? Otherwise, air temps don't mean much. The GPU temp is fine though, mine peaks out around that gaming and 74 or so on furmark. CPU temperature will depend on the voltage you're using, but it might be a little on the high side unless you're in a warm room.
Also, what do you mean the cpu cooler can't reach the front intake? You don't need to put it right against the front... just let it sit there and push/pull from the front toward the back. Fans in the front will pull in air, then your cpu cooler will 'pick up' that air, then exhaust it out the back, it doesn't need to be connected to an intake or anything. Back to front flow would work, but most cases have dust filters on the front, so front to back is more common, otherwise you're pulling in all sorts of dust that will stick in the fins of your HSF.

Tinkering with fans is fun, and lower temps don't get better than free.
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
March 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#1337
Hey all, ive got a problem with a virus on my computer. Anyways i've run some scans and cant get rid of it and was wondering how you would do a reformat if windows came pre installed?
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 08 2012 15:11 GMT
#1338
On March 09 2012 00:04 TuckFexas wrote:
Hey all, ive got a problem with a virus on my computer. Anyways i've run some scans and cant get rid of it and was wondering how you would do a reformat if windows came pre installed?


download windows and create a boot stick (or dvd). the win key should be somewhere on your pc manual or at the back of your case or something.


do you know which virus it is?
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TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
March 08 2012 15:31 GMT
#1339
On March 09 2012 00:11 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 00:04 TuckFexas wrote:
Hey all, ive got a problem with a virus on my computer. Anyways i've run some scans and cant get rid of it and was wondering how you would do a reformat if windows came pre installed?


download windows and create a boot stick (or dvd). the win key should be somewhere on your pc manual or at the back of your case or something.


do you know which virus it is?


Where could i download windows from? and there was alot of stuff, i deleted folders for things like ibryte, yoboot (somthing like that), ftoast, babylon search bar, frost search thing and malwarebytes found somthing called adware in a real player folder which it deleted. But what has happened is google chrome has completely stoped working (on waterfox now) while waterfox gives me a page full of 0's every 10ish searches and stops responding every 15. Then i have to go into task manager and end the firefox process. it hasnt happened since malwarebytes deleted the real player folder so im considering not re formating but i have yet to see.
Texas is to f*cking hot.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 08 2012 15:43 GMT
#1340
On March 09 2012 00:04 TuckFexas wrote:
Hey all, ive got a problem with a virus on my computer. Anyways i've run some scans and cant get rid of it and was wondering how you would do a reformat if windows came pre installed?


If you have an HP or a Dell you should have a separate partition on your hard drive called "recovery". Both have a recovery manager that you can run which would reformat the system.
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