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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 20 2014 11:32 GMT
#10101
On October 19 2014 16:21 7mk wrote:
Hey there, I hope this isn't too complex a question for this thread

but I just wanted to install new RAM, and somehow I messed up, started PC, smelled burning.

So googling tells me either I burned just the RAM, or the motherboard.

Well I inserted the old RAM again, pretty damn sure in the right spot, and the PC doesn't start anymore
(Every few seconds, it shortly tries, LEDs on, fans on, then it stops)
so I guess my motherboard is toast.

Question: Is it certain that it's the motherboard or could it theoretically be something else?
And what do I do now? Do I order a new one and install it myself or is that probably too much to ask of someone so stupid that he failed at something as simple as installing RAM lol


I don't really know what could have possibly gone wrong there. PSU is possibly at fault though. The PSU's, mobo's, cases etc with prebuilts are usually bottom tier cheap stuff
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
October 20 2014 14:10 GMT
#10102
I have a question that I don't think warrants an entire thread, but I'll go into it with as much detail as I can nonetheless.

I watch a lot of anime on my computer, but a persistent problem is that it doesn't seem smooth. I'm using MadVR's Smooth Motion feature, but even with it, I get what I can only describe as frame overlap of some sort (I think the proper term is "judder"). It was the same with my video games.

Recently, however, I let my brother play League of Legends, resulting in him in the computer chair and me sitting in my bed a good six feet away. It was breathtaking how smoothly my monitor looked. Making this discovery, I tried posturing myself a good distance away, to no avail.

My question is, is this something I can change at all, or is this an issue with differing frame rates that I have no control over?
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 20 2014 14:25 GMT
#10103
Your Anime is probably much lower framerate than games (20-30 as opposed to 60+)

You might have some motion issue with stuttering etc, but try using SVP with mpc media player
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 16:10:56
October 20 2014 16:07 GMT
#10104
Movies, TV, etc. are generally mastered at 24 fps. (well, technically 23.976; or perhaps 25 if originating in PAL territories?)

Last I checked, most non-high-budget-movie animation is not done at 24 fps, drawing a new image for every new frame. It's probably more like 12, 8, or 6 fps for actual motion because otherwise I guess it'd be too expensive I guess. Some of the effects, anything actually 3D CG rendered, panning shots, linear motion, and other elements could easily be 24 fps, but most assets probably are not. Just step through a scene frame-by-frame in a media player that supports that and you'll see it.

This frequently isn't something that SVP or other interpolation would help with because even if somehow SVP could interpolate nonlinear movement and transformation of line art correctly (it can't; if anyone could do this algorithmically, I doubt it'd be in real time, and wouldn't production staff be using that themselves in the first place?), it's not going to fix the fact that important parts of the frames are repeated even in the source. I guess SVP could make some panning shots look more like 60 fps to have them contrast even more with other motion that looks more like 8 fps.

I looked up MadVR's smooth motion feature, and I think that's mainly to help with displaying 24 fps content on 60 fps refresh screens and other scenarios where the source framerate doesn't divide evenly into the display refresh rate. It does some intelligent blending of frames so frames aren't displayed uneven amounts of time, which would cause additional jerkiness even in panning shots (regardless of the type of content) where every frame is unique.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 20 2014 16:31 GMT
#10105
SVP does work wonders, i've never used it for anime though. Some people do use it, i've seen settings posted for using with anime
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 20 2014 16:52 GMT
#10106
I admit I only used it once and didn't test it much (so conclusions based on theory and not observation), but a quick search reveals that these so-called settings for anime involve tuning parameters to be less aggressive so it's doing less in general because otherwise you get interpolated frames like this:
+ Show Spoiler [image] +
[image loading]

http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Watching_anime
So there you have it, smooth motion in panning and zooming scenes, while the rest remain untouched.

They do have motion interpolation features on a lot of TVs and so on these days.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 17:40:47
October 20 2014 17:38 GMT
#10107
AFAIK svp-style interpolation particularly with access to PC hardware is better or at least much more tunable. It's pretty cool the kind of difference it can make - 24fps is nowhere near enough for fast panning scenes (the people that decided to shoot Gravity at 24fps are literally worse than hitler) but even with 48-60fps, it's much more pleasant with good interpolation to 144
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:39:37
October 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#10108
Yes, it does better than what you probably see in most TVs etc., especially by using desktop CPU and GPU hardware for compute, but that still doesn't address the underlying issues with and nature of the source (repeated frames already in every 24 frames per second, hard lines for shapes, often or generally no blur), right? Regardless, the wiki itself says that you pretty much need to tune it to do nothing for that kind of animated content because it doesn't work outside of pans and zooms.

The original question was about smoothness of motion, which isn't really addressed here in a way that madVR's feature is already taking care of. Though maybe I'm misunderstanding what "frame overlap" is referring to. If you don't want blended frames where sometimes what's shown is a combination of multiple different frames, actually, you want to disable anything like SVP and madVR's smooth motion feature. However, straight-up playback of 24 fps on a 60 Hz screen would judder (usually not tearing because it probably v-syncs and only shows complete frames). If you don't want blended frames and don't want judder, you can try a custom resolution / refresh / timing for the monitor to run it at 48 or 72 Hz. (or rather, 47.952 and 71.928). See CRU, related utilities.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
October 20 2014 19:14 GMT
#10109
Is there a way to add features to different areas of a touch pad using 3rd party software? Ex: my lenovo yoga2 pro's touchpad isn't all that great and i managed to add some basic features that weren't including using some programs (xmouse-button and 2 finger scroll)

I was wondering if there were other programs like this that let you add stuff to your mousepad. For instance, I would like to be able to allocate part of the touchpad real estate for just a scroll wheel -- something like that?
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#10110
I'm looking at purchasing a Raspberry Pi in addition to my efforts with learning some programming. It will be shipped to my house in Canada.

I'm just looking briefly on amazon.ca and I can see a couple kit deals that come with a case, the power supply, SD card, etc. For anyone who has bought one before, is amazon a recommend place to buy? In addition to the Pi, I'll be needing the power supply for it, a microSD card, and preferably a case and maybe also a USB wifi dongle for it.

I'm looking at the differences between the B model and the B+ and I don't have a problem forking out a few extra bucks for the B+ given its features.

The only kit I can find on amazon.ca that interests me is this one:

http://www.amazon.ca/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Supply/dp/B0096M7IJY/

I'm okay with the price on that, I just want to know if anyone would recommend another place to check. Suggestions?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 02:09:33
October 21 2014 11:07 GMT
#10111
Dear God, SVP is amazing. Thank you guys so much for suggesting that to me. I hadn't heard of it until I asked here and my love for the TL community is rekindled.

Edit: After further testing, I've discovered the weird frame blends. At first it looks like some really weird haloing, but when you look closer, it's blending. Can't think of any solutions to this as even the recommended anime settings don't help, but the pans are still amazing and I can live with it.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 22 2014 15:35 GMT
#10112
So guys I'm at a loss here:

I run a 2 monitor setup. Every now and then the main monitor just randomly breaks: the screen gets all "cut up" in bars, and it shakes a lot. (I didn't take a screen shot, will do next time). My second monitor is not affected at all.
It seems to increase when I connect my eternal hard drive, but happens either way. Sometimes it fixes it self, but most of the time it won't.
This has happend in the past (year +) as well, but it at some point it stopped. Anyone has any idea?
We know nothing.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 16:25:23
October 22 2014 16:25 GMT
#10113
software (gpu driver?) or hardware (screen, gpu) issue, can't really say without more info
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 17:20:02
October 22 2014 17:19 GMT
#10114
On October 23 2014 01:25 Cyro wrote:
software (gpu driver?) or hardware (screen, gpu) issue, can't really say without more info


this reminds of a weird problem that I once had. weirder still is that the problem is now fixed.

my old rig was an intel Q6600 / HD 3450 that I used with the HP monitor that came with it. sometimes, I would get weird spots on the screen, certain textures would become green stripes for example (though not just that, sometimes it got really damn wacky). sometimes the screen would go black for periods of up to 5 seconds.

then one day the screen went black permanently. so I used a very old 768p display for a week or two, without any issue whatsoever.

then i tried using the HP screen again. it worked fine for about a week, then the wacky screen stuff came back, as well as black screens. i switched to the old screen again and then got a new 1080p monitor. after getting the new monitor, I got 0 problems on the Q6600 / HD 3450 rig.

the thing is, the old HP screen that was causing issues before is in use right now... and it's not causing any problems whatsoever. i gave that rig to my siblings (got them a GTX 750 to go with it, HD3450 is ancient) and there aren't any problems whatsoever. none. zip. nada.

so what was causing issues? the HD 3450? can't be, it was working perfectly fine with the old 768p screen and the new 1080p one. the monitor? can't be, it's working fine right now with the GTX 750. I asked my siblings, they haven't had any of the old issues I described before on the monitor.

the HD 3450 is also still working on an even older, secondary rig that my brother sometimes uses (for old games like oblivion and stuff).

logic? nope
maru lover forever
DaHui2
Profile Joined September 2012
United States25 Posts
October 24 2014 02:35 GMT
#10115
Quick question. Would a rosewill capestone 450w gold PSU be able to handle a mildly overclocked 3570k, 1 hdd, 1 ssd, and a 780ti?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 24 2014 02:55 GMT
#10116
On October 24 2014 11:35 DaHui2 wrote:
Quick question. Would a rosewill capestone 450w gold PSU be able to handle a mildly overclocked 3570k, 1 hdd, 1 ssd, and a 780ti?

Yes, unless you run heavier overclocks on the GTX 780 Ti too.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 24 2014 13:44 GMT
#10117
On October 23 2014 01:25 Cyro wrote:
software (gpu driver?) or hardware (screen, gpu) issue, can't really say without more info


So I tried a few more things:

Switched my set up around, made my secondary monitor my main. For now it seems to have changed something. The problem is still there on the same screen as before, but the lines are very blurry instead of the screen being totaly unreadable. Also I tried to take a screen shot but when I copy the screenshot it shows the page as it should be, not as I see it.

Does this mean that my monitor has some kind of hardwere problem? If yes, how would I fix this?
We know nothing.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
October 24 2014 14:29 GMT
#10118
You need to mention some more details about what you are doing. You only said you have two monitors and said nothing else.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
October 25 2014 10:42 GMT
#10119
On October 24 2014 23:29 Ropid wrote:
You need to mention some more details about what you are doing. You only said you have two monitors and said nothing else.


Tyvm for helping me so far!
99% of the time I'm gaming on my main montor (the one with the problem), hs or WOW, and have a stream or youtube vid running on the second monitor.
It seems like youtube increases the chance of it happening, but it also happens without youtube running.

We know nothing.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
October 25 2014 10:46 GMT
#10120
What graphics cards are you using for this and are you connecting the monitor through DVI-D or VGA or DisplayPort?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
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