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BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 14 2014 19:21 GMT
#9821
On August 15 2014 03:22 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 01:51 BreakBad wrote:
On August 15 2014 01:34 Cyro wrote:
On August 15 2014 01:30 BreakBad wrote:
On August 13 2014 06:39 Cyro wrote:

For previous consoles, or alternately, i think people use capture cards paired with a desktop/laptop system (usually windows) and some software like OBS. That's expensive though, it needs two gaming systems and like a $100 capture card so instead of say $400 for a new console or a comparable PC, you're looking at a cost of ~$400+~$400+~$100 if you don't already have that hardware.


Why do I need two gaming systems? That sounds kinda odd. I have the PC to stream it for sure, but that sounds odd that I need two.


Because you need one console and one PC

^they're both gaming systems

OOOH. I thought you were saying two PS3s. I was like wtf??

Question now that I see that you are here... I'm looking at this one amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Capture-PlayStation-Definition-Recorder/dp/B00840353W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

I know that is more high end, but this is what you are talking about, correct?


Something like that yea, i've never heard of that one in particular. If whatever you're using has hardware h264 encoding, try to make sure that you can get video passed through losslessly to PC for encoding with x264 using OBS if possible, because the hardware h264 encoders are nowhere near as efficient (they need more bitrate for same quality)

How do I figure out if they use h264 encoders? How do I "make sure" they pass through losslessly?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
August 14 2014 19:49 GMT
#9822
How do I figure out if they use h264 encoders?


It's advertised, that one said that it takes the hdmi signal, passes it through to a TV and also grabs it for hardware encoding h264 for dumping to a hard drive - but also mentions something about OBS/Xsplit support, which could mean lossless passthrough or not. I don't know
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 14 2014 20:00 GMT
#9823
On August 15 2014 04:49 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
How do I figure out if they use h264 encoders?


It's advertised, that one said that it takes the hdmi signal, passes it through to a TV and also grabs it for hardware encoding h264 for dumping to a hard drive - but also mentions something about OBS/Xsplit support, which could mean lossless passthrough or not. I don't know

So how can I tell if it is lossless passthrough? If I buy it, and use it, what am I looking for?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
August 14 2014 23:16 GMT
#9824
I dont use either the software or the hardware in those ways so.. can't tell you
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 03:01:22
August 15 2014 02:58 GMT
#9825
So my computer of 8 years finally died....The computer boots up, but my monitor doesn't show the loading screens (all that bootup stuff). I know my monitor works, and I've managed to brute force my way into getting the computer to boot up before, so I think the connection is okay. However, this time, it just BSOD's before it even lets me log into the computer. How do i tell if something is a mother board failure or if it's a hard drive failure or both?

Also, I haven't been in the computer buying market for ages; do people still buy desktops if they're not doing any hardcore gaming/programming?
im deaf
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 03:08:04
August 15 2014 03:07 GMT
#9826
On August 15 2014 11:58 imBLIND wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So my computer of 8 years finally died....The computer boots up, but my monitor doesn't show the loading screens (all that bootup stuff). I know my monitor works, and I've managed to brute force my way into getting the computer to boot up before, so I think the connection is okay. However, this time, it just BSOD's before it even lets me log into the computer. How do i tell if something is a mother board failure or if it's a hard drive failure or both?

Also, I haven't been in the computer buying market for ages; do people still buy desktops if they're not doing any hardcore gaming/programming?


What hardware...?

You'd still be able to turn on the computer and go into the BIOS even if your HDD died.

If the display receives no signal then first I'd check the video card. Reseat it, try a different one (or try it in another computer).

Some people still get desktops.. for the multiple monitors and occasional gaming. A lot of people do get laptops though to be more mobile.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
August 15 2014 03:13 GMT
#9827
Sorry i forgot my specs. Q9550 quad core, 4gb ddr2 ram, 500gb hdd, nvidia 9800gt...i forgot what kind of motherboard.
The monitor still works, but there's no flashing light that tells me the computer is reading my hdd.
im deaf
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 04:35:43
August 15 2014 04:04 GMT
#9828
Most people buy desktops because they're way better cost for cost. You can't find a laptop for $400 with the single core performance of Haswell @3ghz+ and the GPU power of a 750ti - yet you can build a small, very quiet desktop system with such parts. Laptop includes things like a screen, but overall "entry level gaming" with something like a haswell dual core and gm107 + 1080p starts at a higher price point, more than a little higher
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cupine
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada51 Posts
August 15 2014 05:44 GMT
#9829
So I'm looking to buy a new laptop which will be used for school, but I would also like it to be able to run LoL and SC2 at a decent FPS (like 60 for league).

I've been looking at laptops like this one :
http://www.amazon.com/Zenbook-UX303LN-DB71T-Quad-HD-Display-Touchscreen/dp/B00KTL21RA

I just want one that's light (4.0kg or lighter?), with sustainable battery life and the ability to run LoL and SC2. Thank you for any clarity you may provide.
Cupine.945, Official protoss player now
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
August 15 2014 05:51 GMT
#9830
If possible, try to get a processor without the -U on it. Integrated graphics is acceptable for LoL or playing sc2 at lower settings, even, but lack of CPU frequency and power budget hurts quite a lot
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
August 15 2014 05:53 GMT
#9831
A guy who works in returns was telling me stories of people trying to cheat the system.

That got me thinking - what if the person has the receipt, but with the same item bought someplace else?

How do stores tell 'same products' apart? Does each copy have a unique bar code?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 15 2014 06:00 GMT
#9832
Serial numbers are unique.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
August 15 2014 06:05 GMT
#9833
Thanks.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
August 15 2014 22:50 GMT
#9834
I need to get a new router. From what I'm reading it looks like a 802.11n is good? It'll be used by 4 people in the same house, should I get a 5 GHz one or a 2.4GHz one? Does it matter? I'll be using it for gaming and possibly streaming. I get 50/10Mbps speed on wire. The distance from the router to my computer should be around 5-10m but not in a straight line.

I'm afraid reviews I see online are tainted(?) and may contain misleading information. Also do brands matter?
Stuck.
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 16 2014 02:16 GMT
#9835
I have another question for you. How do people stream Nintendo 3DS games and other hand helds? Is there a capture card for those as well?
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
August 16 2014 02:18 GMT
#9836
On August 16 2014 07:50 Wala.Revolution wrote:
I need to get a new router. From what I'm reading it looks like a 802.11n is good? It'll be used by 4 people in the same house, should I get a 5 GHz one or a 2.4GHz one? Does it matter? I'll be using it for gaming and possibly streaming. I get 50/10Mbps speed on wire. The distance from the router to my computer should be around 5-10m but not in a straight line.

I'm afraid reviews I see online are tainted(?) and may contain misleading information. Also do brands matter?


802.11n is fine. Most routers come with dual bands. 2.4GHz tend to be the stronger signal but sometimes might have interferences with other devices while 5GHz needs to be closer but has less of a chance being interferred with. If you're really strapped on cash then go for the solo 2.4. If not, then get a dual band. I can't think of a single router that only has 5GHz.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 16 2014 02:22 GMT
#9837
On August 16 2014 11:18 wptlzkwjd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 07:50 Wala.Revolution wrote:
I need to get a new router. From what I'm reading it looks like a 802.11n is good? It'll be used by 4 people in the same house, should I get a 5 GHz one or a 2.4GHz one? Does it matter? I'll be using it for gaming and possibly streaming. I get 50/10Mbps speed on wire. The distance from the router to my computer should be around 5-10m but not in a straight line.

I'm afraid reviews I see online are tainted(?) and may contain misleading information. Also do brands matter?


802.11n is fine. Most routers come with dual bands. 2.4GHz tend to be the stronger signal but sometimes might have interferences with other devices while 5GHz needs to be closer but has less of a chance being interferred with. If you're really strapped on cash then go for the solo 2.4. If not, then get a dual band. I can't think of a single router that only has 5GHz.


There are also newer N routers that are starting to incorporate multiuser beam forming alongside MIMO (multiple input multiple output). Better explanation than I can give here at ars.

Probably don't need it unless you plan on trying to stream over wireless (as in, broadcast) and even then probably not.

But it does have blazing internal network speed, in case you like to copy terabytes over your local LAN.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 02:52:16
August 16 2014 02:48 GMT
#9838
On August 16 2014 11:16 BreakBad wrote:
I have another question for you. How do people stream Nintendo 3DS games and other hand helds? Is there a capture card for those as well?


I don't know of anyone who streams them from those devices but a lot of people emulate them on PC. A Haswell quad core CPU is capable of running Wii games far faster than a Wii can, and handheld devices are much much easier! Even a smartphone can emulate something like pokemon for gameboy advance.

[image loading]

^That's an emulator benchmark, timing how long it takes to run certain amounts of code. Intel's last CPU gen launch (Haswell) made some changes that vastly increased performance for those types of programs - see the i5 4690
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 16 2014 03:51 GMT
#9839
I don't think there's a real Vita or 3DS emulator that actually runs that system's (rather than the previous one) games. i.e. nobody's written the software. For PSP, DS, and earlier, that would be the easiest and probably what most people are doing these days.

Some handhelds (actually, maybe just the PSP) did have video outputs. I think the 3DS doesn't...?

The usual way is just tripod + camera. I don't know if people are getting around that. There's a non-handheld version of the PS Vita called the PlayStation TV that has existed in Japan for about a year. Maybe some people use that for the Vita.
BreakBad
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#9840
Well, I ask because if you go here on twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Pok%C3%A9mon%20X%2FY), people stream Pokemon X/Y. I'm going to do some more digging, because I'm curious for sure.
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