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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
March 13 2013 05:19 GMT
#5741
On March 13 2013 14:00 AznBoy00 wrote:
Is it normal that in campaign i get roughly 60-70fps on everything maxed? Even multiplayer is similar with 70-80 fps, I usually play on low with 200fps early game 60fps mid-late game.

My specs:
Asua z77 sabertooth
Ocz modxtreme 750w psu
Intel core i5 3570k
Msi geforce gtx 570 twin frozr ii
Corsair vengeance 8gb
Corsair h80
All in a corsair carbide 500r case

Thanks!

Yes. If you want more performance over clock your overclockable cpu with your overpriced overclockable motherboard...
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 06:33:36
March 13 2013 06:23 GMT
#5742
On March 12 2013 07:08 Craton wrote:
Probably not enough voltage at 4.7, but you're already pretty well into diminishing returns at that clock.


To back this up btw - I did more testing with my CPU (which is above average, so anyone reading might not have the same figures)

4.2ghz, 1.07v and 4.4ghz, 1.13v both passed 24hours prime95 custom blend with error checking and rounding at increased priority

4.5ghz passed 50 runs IBT max RAM at 1.17v

4.6ghz seems pretty solid at 1.2v

4.7, 4.8ghz seem good under IBT at ~1.24, 1.27-1.29v

Then the massive voltage cliff arrives.

4.6ghz is stable at 1.2v - 4.8 will boot at 1.2v but not pass stress testing - adding 200mhz from there require an additional 0.15v just to boot.


So in terms of costs per 200mhz stable.. We are looking at ~ 0.06v / 0.07v / 0.08v / 0.15-0.2v+. Voltage close to linear, slight curve and then CLIFF. Ivy Bridge is a cruel mistress. Many or even most of them hit this cliff at something like 4.5 or 4.6ghz - i was lucky to be completely fine til 4.7-4.8, so that will run at a really great voltage, and because the cliff comes later on, i could probably 5.0 at 1.45, but it's kinda impossible without either delidding CPU (cuts temperatures by about 20-25c due to manufacturing problem) or custom water to bruteforce temperatures down. I cant test it, it could be stable at 1.4, it could take 1.6+ - all i can say for certain is that my other voltages are good.

Belial is running 5ghz at a touch under 1.5v right now, says he got ~23c better temps from delid, yet his Awesome setup runs at max temps around 87c so it's certainly doable but tricky if you are not insane
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
March 13 2013 06:33 GMT
#5743
My 3770k voltage cliffed out at 4.7 for what it's worth.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 06:36:19
March 13 2013 06:35 GMT
#5744
I see to be completely fine til the >4.8 step, i didnt test 4.9 like an idiot but 5 was.. ugh

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Just to boot


What vcore do you need for 4.6 or 4.7? (depending on where you cliff) I'm curious (:
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 07:14:47
March 13 2013 07:07 GMT
#5745
I forget what 4.5 was, but it was a very slight jump for 4.6. 1.28 for 4.6, 1.33 for 4.7, but then I'm maxed out thermally (I cut off the test when it hit 100C). I know there are some other things you can tweak at this point, but I haven't explored them (I'm still a novice at OCing).

I've just been using the 4.6 (burn tests maxed out at 89C, max load under gaming + streaming 61C). I remounted my heatsink last week to see if that'd do anything, but I got the same temps within 1C.
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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
March 13 2013 14:14 GMT
#5746
Hey,

Recently I've been having trouble with Google Chrome, specifically its Google search feature. All other services such as Gmail work. I've found a temporary solution in the form of using CCleaner to clean everything related to Google Chrome. After using CCleaner, it will work until I restart my PC. Then it will stop working again.

It also says this, when I use the search feature: Error 15 (net::ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED): Unknown error.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19343 Posts
March 13 2013 17:34 GMT
#5747
Twitch.tv is randomly deleting my videos! I am new to streaming and had at least ten videos and now I'm down to six. I don't know where the videos went but these are important to many. Any advice on this matter would be great!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
AznBoy00
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada166 Posts
March 13 2013 19:55 GMT
#5748
On March 13 2013 14:19 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 14:00 AznBoy00 wrote:
Is it normal that in campaign i get roughly 60-70fps on everything maxed? Even multiplayer is similar with 70-80 fps, I usually play on low with 200fps early game 60fps mid-late game.

My specs:
Asua z77 sabertooth
Ocz modxtreme 750w psu
Intel core i5 3570k
Msi geforce gtx 570 twin frozr ii
Corsair vengeance 8gb
Corsair h80
All in a corsair carbide 500r case

Thanks!

Yes. If you want more performance over clock your overclockable cpu with your overpriced overclockable motherboard...


My motherboard is not overpriced...got it for 200$...and it was free shipping for entire order which saved me an extra 30$
My Life For Protoss =) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
March 14 2013 00:13 GMT
#5749
On March 14 2013 02:34 BisuDagger wrote:
Twitch.tv is randomly deleting my videos! I am new to streaming and had at least ten videos and now I'm down to six. I don't know where the videos went but these are important to many. Any advice on this matter would be great!


I think Twitch.TV automatically deletes videos unless you tell it to keep them:

http://support.twitch.tv/discussion/984/old-videos-get-deleted
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19343 Posts
March 14 2013 05:27 GMT
#5750
On March 14 2013 09:13 sundersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 02:34 BisuDagger wrote:
Twitch.tv is randomly deleting my videos! I am new to streaming and had at least ten videos and now I'm down to six. I don't know where the videos went but these are important to many. Any advice on this matter would be great!


I think Twitch.TV automatically deletes videos unless you tell it to keep them:

http://support.twitch.tv/discussion/984/old-videos-get-deleted

Perfect! Thank you!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 14 2013 07:22 GMT
#5751
On March 14 2013 04:55 AznBoy00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 14:19 Rollin wrote:
On March 13 2013 14:00 AznBoy00 wrote:
Is it normal that in campaign i get roughly 60-70fps on everything maxed? Even multiplayer is similar with 70-80 fps, I usually play on low with 200fps early game 60fps mid-late game.

My specs:
Asua z77 sabertooth
Ocz modxtreme 750w psu
Intel core i5 3570k
Msi geforce gtx 570 twin frozr ii
Corsair vengeance 8gb
Corsair h80
All in a corsair carbide 500r case

Thanks!

Yes. If you want more performance over clock your overclockable cpu with your overpriced overclockable motherboard...


My motherboard is not overpriced...got it for 200$...and it was free shipping for entire order which saved me an extra 30$


Do you overclock?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
March 14 2013 09:44 GMT
#5752
Anyone got idea why Hots keeps freezing. What i mean by that, then the game starts everything freezes for like 2 seconds and then catches up. That happens several times per game, and it's more like a pc freeze, but i have plently of ram left, etc.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
March 14 2013 10:05 GMT
#5753
Is game time freezing (can you still move the mouse around and select units) or entire game locking up?

If its the first, then network issues (a few dropped packets or a latency spike can do that) but if its the second then some other issue, if it's related to loading the game and caching everything (because sc2 does not load properly to cut times in load screens..) then it should minimize or go away with more playing (as you have already loaded more units, effects etc)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 12:31:06
March 14 2013 12:27 GMT
#5754
On March 14 2013 19:05 Cyro wrote:
Is game time freezing (can you still move the mouse around and select units) or entire game locking up?

If its the first, then network issues (a few dropped packets or a latency spike can do that) but if its the second then some other issue, if it's related to loading the game and caching everything (because sc2 does not load properly to cut times in load screens..) then it should minimize or go away with more playing (as you have already loaded more units, effects etc)


I am gonna confirm time and mouse so we know for sure But I think they both freeze, and then after unfreeze time just catches up. If you are saying it's latency, then why that always happens as soon as game starts; i can only make my first drone after 2 seconds.

Also on a similar note, when opponent lags in SC2, then you get the message bos of him lagging and game just pauses. But in my case it's only frozen on my screen, and as soon as it's unfreezes, everything moves super fast to catch up for that time.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
March 14 2013 12:39 GMT
#5755
On March 14 2013 04:55 AznBoy00 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 14:19 Rollin wrote:
On March 13 2013 14:00 AznBoy00 wrote:
Is it normal that in campaign i get roughly 60-70fps on everything maxed? Even multiplayer is similar with 70-80 fps, I usually play on low with 200fps early game 60fps mid-late game.

My specs:
Asua z77 sabertooth
Ocz modxtreme 750w psu
Intel core i5 3570k
Msi geforce gtx 570 twin frozr ii
Corsair vengeance 8gb
Corsair h80
All in a corsair carbide 500r case

Thanks!

Yes. If you want more performance over clock your overclockable cpu with your overpriced overclockable motherboard...


My motherboard is not overpriced...got it for 200$...and it was free shipping for entire order which saved me an extra 30$

It's overpriced because you could have spent ~$110-120 for a nice overclocking motherboard with the same functionality (for you).

There is very rarely any reason to spend over $120 on a motherboard for 1 or 2 graphics cards, and if you do need to, you'd know why.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 14 2013 13:59 GMT
#5756
On March 14 2013 21:27 ALPINA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 19:05 Cyro wrote:
Is game time freezing (can you still move the mouse around and select units) or entire game locking up?

If its the first, then network issues (a few dropped packets or a latency spike can do that) but if its the second then some other issue, if it's related to loading the game and caching everything (because sc2 does not load properly to cut times in load screens..) then it should minimize or go away with more playing (as you have already loaded more units, effects etc)


I am gonna confirm time and mouse so we know for sure But I think they both freeze, and then after unfreeze time just catches up. If you are saying it's latency, then why that always happens as soon as game starts; i can only make my first drone after 2 seconds.

Also on a similar note, when opponent lags in SC2, then you get the message bos of him lagging and game just pauses. But in my case it's only frozen on my screen, and as soon as it's unfreezes, everything moves super fast to catch up for that time.


The "fast foward effect" that you see is typically an indicator of network lag. Packets with updates to the game state haven't been received for a little while and when they come through, the client runs through them as quickly as possible so that game state catches up.
Such flammable little insects!
Sun7
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece61 Posts
March 14 2013 18:35 GMT
#5757
Hi to all

I found an offer for some used parts because i don't have the money to buy a new computer right now.

The parts are, i7-860 processor, intel dp55wb motherboard, GTS 450 graphics card and 4gb of memory

All of them are used for a year by a friend and i can buy them for 180 euros. Here you can find detailed information about the parts gathered from speccy http://imgur.com/a/NUEc3

What do you think about the offer? i have no idea and i don't want to get ripped off. Thanks in advance for your time
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 14 2013 19:10 GMT
#5758
When you hold over the menu button in game in sc2 you get some information like:

Wireless signal: Very good
Framerate: 60 fps
X resource stalls for Yms in the last minute (X and Y is different numbers)


Can anyone tell me what the last part means and how you can interpret it? Last time I checked it was something like "14 resource stalls in 64ms in the last minute." Is that good, bad or useless information? I'm obviously playing on a wireless connection.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 19:25:04
March 14 2013 19:24 GMT
#5759
It means your game was stalled (frozen) X times, totalling to Yms (milliseconds) of being frozen while waiting for resources (loading something to RAM, for example)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
March 14 2013 20:30 GMT
#5760
Does anyone have any clue as to what will happen with the prices of i5/7 Ivy Bridge CPU:s and 1155 motherboards when Haswell and 1150 hits the market? What usually happens with existing Intel products when a new architecture gets released? I tried using Google to find an answer but I haven't found anything of worth.
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