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Have you ever heard the PC 350 sounding better than it does now?
The electronics have a minimal impact on the overall sound character***, though popular audiophile mythology suggests otherwise. It just means that you don't like the PC 350s.
+ Show Spoiler [***] +except possibly in the case of significant source output impedance interactions, which can significantly impact the frequency response—not happening for headsets with as high impedance as the PC 350s—or some pretty grossly deviant electronics, like maybe some single-ended output-transformerless vacuum tube amplifier.
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edit: epic fail, can delete
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Wrong thread? This is the Tech Q&A.
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fyi, if you have to ask this then your team is just bad. A melee that can't support itself should never be left to solo.
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On October 23 2012 10:43 Myrmidon wrote:Have you ever heard the PC 350 sounding better than it does now? The electronics have a minimal impact on the overall sound character***, though popular audiophile mythology suggests otherwise. It just means that you don't like the PC 350s. + Show Spoiler [***] +except possibly in the case of significant source output impedance interactions, which can significantly impact the frequency response—not happening for headsets with as high impedance as the PC 350s—or some pretty grossly deviant electronics, like maybe some single-ended output-transformerless vacuum tube amplifier.
No, I haven't heard it any better. I've had it for three days and if anything they sound better now since I've gotten them (I'm assuming it's because I've just gotten used to the quality).
I do know that the PC 350 has 150 impedance. And I've heard that on-board audio can't handle impedance that high.
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On October 23 2012 11:35 hellokyle wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 10:43 Myrmidon wrote:Have you ever heard the PC 350 sounding better than it does now? The electronics have a minimal impact on the overall sound character***, though popular audiophile mythology suggests otherwise. It just means that you don't like the PC 350s. + Show Spoiler [***] +except possibly in the case of significant source output impedance interactions, which can significantly impact the frequency response—not happening for headsets with as high impedance as the PC 350s—or some pretty grossly deviant electronics, like maybe some single-ended output-transformerless vacuum tube amplifier. No, I haven't heard it any better. I've had it for three days and if anything they sound better now since I've gotten them (I'm assuming it's because I've just gotten used to the quality). I do know that the PC 350 has 150 impedance. And I've heard that on-board audio can't handle impedance that high.
That's the opposite. As long as you get enough volume, the higher the impedance, the easier it is to run. For a given voltage (same is true for power, but not at the same ratio), with higher impedance, there is less current flow, where less is easier. There are other reasons too.
Higher impedance just means you need more voltage to achieve a certain volume, assuming a certain sensitivity. If the device can output the voltage, then it should generally be okay as long as it can handle the current draw. The issue is just that with high impedance headphones with not high enough sensitivity, even the maximum volume setting on some devices may not be as loud as you want. That's where you need something that's capable of a higher output.
As for the other thing, it's normal to get used to a sound. But if you like other headsets or headphones better, then get something else if you can.
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I used to have dedicated headphones and an actual semi-professional microphone for streaming. But to save money I sold both and settled on the PC 350, a mic and audio in one.
I'm fairly certain I'm not going to achieve Bose QuietComfort-15-level-audio with these but I felt that my new headset would have better audio than it does now. I guess I was a little spoiled by the Bose product.
I just wanted to know if they would improve even a little bit with a discrete soundcard.
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It's not as if a sound card couldn't improve sound a bit, but I'm not sure if that's really what you're looking for. It's not like the Bose quality is that great either, for matter.
If I were to guess, I'd say it all makes sense because the QC15 and PC350 are vastly different (according to 3rd-party tests online; it's been ages since I touched a QC15, and I never tried a PC350). QC15 has kind of a V-shaped frequency response, emphasizing bass, especially sub-bass, and the treble as well—though the treble is uneven, maybe has some issues. That's more of a punchy and sparkly, but maybe unnatural, kind of sound, particularly at louder volumes. PC350 emphasizes the mid frequencies, mostly between 300 Hz and 2 kHz, with other frequencies falling off fast and weaker in comparison, especially the bass. Those are frequencies where most audio positional cues are, where human sense of directivity works best, so maybe that's intentional for this gaming-oriented headset? Anyway, that's maybe more of a honky or nasally sound, significantly different.
You can try various EQs, hopefully with precise controls, but that's not going to solve everything.
A sound card is not going to change the frequency response significantly. It's probably just the PC350 being tuned so differently than what you're used to.
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Very well-described. And I see what you're saying.
The QC15's are more geared towards things such as casual music listening, tv/movies (and yes, my QC15 was a lot better with music; it was richer and less muffled). And the PC350, being a gaming headset would most definitely be concerned with directional sounds.
Thank you very much for you help. Very insightful.
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I had an odd issue with my computer just now. First it froze up completely, then the screen went black and in the corner it showed that it was cycling through inputs or something like that, and then finally just the windows bar came back (everything else stayed black) except the bottom right of it was partially cut off and it didn't seem to be doing anything else so I just turned off the pc. I then turned it back on and it went to the black screen with the monitor showing me it was cycling through inputs or w/e (which I don't think it normally does on startup, though maybe I wouldn't know since I usually just put my pc to sleep mode while I sleep) and finally it went back to the normal bootup and everything seems fine at the moment.
So anyway I was just wondering if anyone has any sort of clue as to what could have happened? I haven't really had any big problems with this computer before and it is just 10 months old.
Sorry if this post is weird/confusing, just haven't experienced anything like this before and want to make sure it can't become a bigger problem in the future.
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On October 23 2012 17:31 Hall0wed wrote:
I had an odd issue with my computer just now. First it froze up completely, then the screen went black and in the corner it showed that it was cycling through inputs or something like that, and then finally just the windows bar came back (everything else stayed black) except the bottom right of it was partially cut off and it didn't seem to be doing anything else so I just turned off the pc. I then turned it back on and it went to the black screen with the monitor showing me it was cycling through inputs or w/e (which I don't think it normally does on startup, though maybe I wouldn't know since I usually just put my pc to sleep mode while I sleep) and finally it went back to the normal bootup and everything seems fine at the moment.
So anyway I was just wondering if anyone has any sort of clue as to what could have happened? I haven't really had any big problems with this computer before and it is just 10 months old.
Sorry if this post is weird/confusing, just haven't experienced anything like this before and want to make sure it can't become a bigger problem in the future.
Sounds like a GPU issue, did you get any message of drivers crashing and restarting or something similar?
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On October 23 2012 17:37 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 17:31 Hall0wed wrote:
I had an odd issue with my computer just now. First it froze up completely, then the screen went black and in the corner it showed that it was cycling through inputs or something like that, and then finally just the windows bar came back (everything else stayed black) except the bottom right of it was partially cut off and it didn't seem to be doing anything else so I just turned off the pc. I then turned it back on and it went to the black screen with the monitor showing me it was cycling through inputs or w/e (which I don't think it normally does on startup, though maybe I wouldn't know since I usually just put my pc to sleep mode while I sleep) and finally it went back to the normal bootup and everything seems fine at the moment.
So anyway I was just wondering if anyone has any sort of clue as to what could have happened? I haven't really had any big problems with this computer before and it is just 10 months old.
Sorry if this post is weird/confusing, just haven't experienced anything like this before and want to make sure it can't become a bigger problem in the future. Sounds like a GPU issue, did you get any message of drivers crashing and restarting or something similar?
Yeah I was thinking GPU also since my monitor is connected directly to the video card. I didn't get any messages or anything like that, probably should have given it another minute before turning off the computer.
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On October 23 2012 18:27 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 17:37 Fragile51 wrote:On October 23 2012 17:31 Hall0wed wrote:
I had an odd issue with my computer just now. First it froze up completely, then the screen went black and in the corner it showed that it was cycling through inputs or something like that, and then finally just the windows bar came back (everything else stayed black) except the bottom right of it was partially cut off and it didn't seem to be doing anything else so I just turned off the pc. I then turned it back on and it went to the black screen with the monitor showing me it was cycling through inputs or w/e (which I don't think it normally does on startup, though maybe I wouldn't know since I usually just put my pc to sleep mode while I sleep) and finally it went back to the normal bootup and everything seems fine at the moment.
So anyway I was just wondering if anyone has any sort of clue as to what could have happened? I haven't really had any big problems with this computer before and it is just 10 months old.
Sorry if this post is weird/confusing, just haven't experienced anything like this before and want to make sure it can't become a bigger problem in the future. Sounds like a GPU issue, did you get any message of drivers crashing and restarting or something similar? Yeah I was thinking GPU also since my monitor is connected directly to the video card. I didn't get any messages or anything like that, probably should have given it another minute before turning off the computer.
GPU randomly losing output sounds like it's on it's last legs tbh, how old is your GPU and what model is it?
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Probably the simplest and stupidest question you guys have read in a while, but i'm planning on buying some new HDD's in the future because i'm running out of storage space, and i've never installed a hard drive before. Now the installing part isn't what i'm worried about, it's the cabling part that i'm worried about. I know that for every HDD i buy i need one SATA cable, but what about SATA power? Is that something that's usually connected to your PSU? I have an Antec High Current Gamer 620 PSU for reference. Thanks in advance.
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There is usually at least one extra connector on the Sata chain. And if you need more Im pretty sure most HDD's come with a molex extension, unless you are buying OEM.
That being said I think most PSU's also come with SATA extensions as well. Maybe check your PSU box?
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On October 23 2012 22:31 Medrea wrote:
There is usually at least one extra connector on the Sata chain. And if you need more Im pretty sure most HDD's come with a molex extension, unless you are buying OEM.
That being said I think most PSU's also come with SATA extensions as well. Maybe check your PSU box?
That's what i thought as well. It's more that i'm afraid that when i order all the stuff and start installing everything i find out i'm missing some bullshit cable in order to make it all work :p
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HCG-620? It should have two stands of SATA power connectors, three on each, about 150mm spacing between connectors. Unless you have six drives connected already (or they are somehow spaced in some way such that they will not stretch, but that is unlikely), you don't need anything else.
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On October 23 2012 22:46 Myrmidon wrote:
HCG-620? It should have two stands of SATA power connectors, three on each, about 150mm spacing between connectors. Unless you have six drives connected already (or they are somehow spaced in some way such that they will not stretch, but that is unlikely), you don't need anything else.
Awesome, thanks a lot. I only have a single 500gb WD blue edition disk installed right now, at the time i thought i might as well not go overboard on storage space as "it was only going to get cheaper in the long run anyway".
Boo Hoo. T_T
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Friend of mine is having an issue where the Avermedia C985 capture card is only outputting 625 lines or so instead of the advertised 1080.
Trying to help him debug the issue. What gives? The drivers for this card are very minimal. There are also some overscan issues that are probably related to the odd amount of lines (NTSC I think). But I can't imagine those would stay around if we could get the right amount of lines to show up.
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VODs on youtube from ESportsTV are blocked from my country. Are there any way to get around this? Thanks :D
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