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On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others.
So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible?
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On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible?
Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall.
Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason.
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I just got a DV67078CA laptop from HP.
I am trying to update the 630M graphics card from nvidia but it continually says that I do not have compatible hardware and I can not update the video card
I was wondering if anyone had any solutions?
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Check Notebook Review. Typically you're forced to use the manufacturer's drivers but occasionally the solution is a simple .ini edit.
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On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason.
Thank you both for explaining it all!
I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one?
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Is there any drawbacks to using my laptop screen and external monitor for extended displays? Mainly just wondering in terms of gaming is it okay for me to use this feature? I'm using a laptop thats equipped with a GT 640M.
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Canada13379 Posts
On August 25 2012 12:28 Womwomwom wrote:
Check Notebook Review. Typically you're forced to use the manufacturer's drivers but occasionally the solution is a simple .ini edit.
Thanks that worked great ^^
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Does anyone know what the headsets were that the casters used for IEM Cologne?
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very stupid, question:
I want to write a blog, but i don´t know how to create a new topic/thread 
Please help me.
(this question is really stupid, sorry)
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On August 25 2012 13:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason. Thank you both for explaining it all! I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one?
corsair AX 850 at 100€ is an EXTREMELY good price
corsair AX 650 normal price is 120€
it's a very good unit with 7 years waranty, very silent, very good efficiency
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On August 25 2012 22:14 Rachnar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 13:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason. Thank you both for explaining it all! I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one? corsair AX 850 at 100€ is an EXTREMELY good price corsair AX 650 normal price is 120€ it's a very good unit with 7 years waranty, very silent, very good efficiency
Ok, sounds like i'd be dumb to turn down the corsair AX 850 offer. The benefits that comes from having a friend that works at a local computer-store 
On August 25 2012 19:56 NotoriousBig wrote:very stupid, question: I want to write a blog, but i don´t know how to create a new topic/thread Please help me. (this question is really stupid, sorry)
1. Click on profile
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8Dumr.gif)
2. Click My Blog
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LTtUX.gif)
3. In there you need to name your blog and after that you can create new blog entrys.
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On August 25 2012 13:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason. Thank you both for explaining it all! I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one?
Well it would depend on the components of your build. I cant imagine you would need that much power.
on the Corsair TX 650W V2, you would lose 4% of the efficiency at 20% load.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article813-page1.html
So look at how much power your components draw at load (a single gpu configuration is going to be usually ~250to350, obviously depends alot on what gpu) and idle (usually ~100-150w). And assuming that your computer will be in an idle (not gaming) mode 75% of the time, a 650W psu will not be very efficient.
edit: here are the efficiency levels of the 850W unit: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-AX850W-Power-Supply-Review/1081/7
maybe, tell us the components of your build and a European expert could help you select a unit or confirm one of your choices.
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On August 25 2012 22:17 Ata wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 13:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason. Thank you both for explaining it all! I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one? Well it would depend on the components of your build. I cant imagine you would need that much power. on the Corsair TX 650W V2, you would lose 4% of the efficiency at 20% load. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article813-page1.html So look at how much power your components draw at load (a single gpu configuration is going to be usually ~250to350, obviously depends alot on what gpu) and idle (usually ~100-150w). And assuming that your computer will be in an idle (not gaming) mode 75% of the time, a 650W psu will not be very efficient. edit: here are the efficiency levels of the 850W unit: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-AX850W-Power-Supply-Review/1081/7maybe, tell us the components of your build and a European expert could help you select a unit or confirm one of your choices.
At the moment i have:
CPU: Intel i5 760 2.8 ghz
MB: Gigabyte something
RAM: Some Corsair 4 gb DDR3 1600mhz @ 1.65volt
Soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX
HDD: Intel 330 120gb SSD
HDD2: Samsung 720gb normal
GPU: Geforce 460 GTX Will upgrade soon as i need a card that can run 3 screens.
DVD burner and a card reader.
5 120mm casefans.
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On August 25 2012 22:41 TheSwedishFan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 22:17 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 13:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:On August 25 2012 12:00 TheSwedishFan wrote:On August 25 2012 11:14 Ata wrote:On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost? Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others. So it's the efficiency that you should look at if you want to keep your electricity bill as low as possible? Yes. Your components will draw the same amount of power from two different PSUs, assuming the configuration is the same, so a high quality, high efficiency PSU will be better. As an example, if a PSU is 80% efficient at 450w DC supplied, it's drawing ~540w from the wall. If it's 90% efficient, it's drawing ~495w from the wall. Assuming you buy something 80+ etc certified, you can check a table to see minimum efficiency at different currents. However, unless you spend up by quite a bit on PSU, your long term savings probably won't add up to a whole ton. The flip side, of course, is that a good quality PSU is an investment that lasts until standards change, so it doesn't really hurt to buy a good one within reason. Thank you both for explaining it all! I can get a Corsair TX 650W V2 80+ Bronze for 90€ or i can get a Corsair AX 850W 80+ Gold Modular for 100€. Is it worth the extra 10€ to get the 850watt one? Well it would depend on the components of your build. I cant imagine you would need that much power. on the Corsair TX 650W V2, you would lose 4% of the efficiency at 20% load. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article813-page1.html So look at how much power your components draw at load (a single gpu configuration is going to be usually ~250to350, obviously depends alot on what gpu) and idle (usually ~100-150w). And assuming that your computer will be in an idle (not gaming) mode 75% of the time, a 650W psu will not be very efficient. edit: here are the efficiency levels of the 850W unit: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-AX850W-Power-Supply-Review/1081/7maybe, tell us the components of your build and a European expert could help you select a unit or confirm one of your choices. At the moment i have: CPU: Intel i5 760 2.8 ghz MB: Gigabyte something.... Will upgrade soon as i will need a board that can run SLI RAM: Some Corsair 4 gb DDR3 1600mhz @ 1.65volt Soundcard: Asus Xonar Essence STX HDD: Intel 330 120gb SSD HDD2: Samsung 720gb normal GPU: Geforce 460 GTX GPU: will buy another of these(^) PSU: DEAD DVD burner and a card reader. 5 120mm casefans.
I see, well I thought you were putting a build together now (gpus and cpus are less power hungry and you would probably only need 1 gpu), I think the 850W psu might actually be a very good choice at that price.
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Does anyone use any recent or 2012 ultrabook as their primary machine? How is it going for you? Any shortcomings or areas where you wish you had a more powerful machine (aside from gaming)?
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On August 25 2012 05:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
well im getting more and more crashes nowadays. usually a freeze followed by a out of windows "parity error" or similar. after reset all normal.
its a quite new pc i build in april or so. didnt have that at all at the start, then like 2 times after d3 launch ingame. now its getting more frequent and happens just while watching shit/browsing too.
quick google brought up all kinds of stuff and nothing.
system: i5-2500k / Gigabyte 560ti 448 / Asrock Z77 Pro 4 / 8gb ram (would have to check brand, dont remember) / win7 pro
anyone? :/
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On August 26 2012 02:07 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:51 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
well im getting more and more crashes nowadays. usually a freeze followed by a out of windows "parity error" or similar. after reset all normal.
its a quite new pc i build in april or so. didnt have that at all at the start, then like 2 times after d3 launch ingame. now its getting more frequent and happens just while watching shit/browsing too.
quick google brought up all kinds of stuff and nothing.
system: i5-2500k / Gigabyte 560ti 448 / Asrock Z77 Pro 4 / 8gb ram (would have to check brand, dont remember) / win7 pro
anyone? :/
Try a memtest.
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I am greatly confused. My computer has 8GB of memory, and doing a quick bit of addition on my processes tab it is SUPPOSEDLY using 3.1GB of memory. However, it also says that 73% of it is being used. Then the performance tab shows 5.87GB of memory is being used. So I have 2.8GB of memory being taken up by seemingly nothing. It has been about 8 days since I restarted, but is it really possible that there is some program on my computer programmed so poorly to keep 2.8GB locked up?
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Yeah its called a memory leak.
All browsers leak memory for instance. Just shut down and restart your computer.
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