Pretty intentionally vague, with no response when I tried to get a real answer. Take from it what you will.

Oops, finally got an answer. Too lazy to screeny again,

Josiah O'Neal @JingleHellTech 22 Aug
@EVGA_JacobF oh come on, that's marketing speak. Is it an exclusivity deal in exchange for good binning, or is it just easier?

Jacob Freeman
@EVGA_JacobF
@JingleHellTech Nope, we have great relationships with both Intel and NVIDIA, and choose to focus on using their GPU's/chipsets!

I'm personally taking this to mean I was right and it's the sort of thing they can't admit, but that's speculation, and comes with a free box of tinfoil.

Medrea

10003 Posts

August 22 2012 21:32 GMT

#3963

You made the fatal flaw of asking two questions at once, so you got a "nope" and you have no idea to which he was even responding to!

Either way your letting them know they are missing out on huge amounts of business. So thats always a good thing.

XFX is asking me to check and if necessary replace the thermal paste on a brand new 7970GE. Meanwhile Newegg has already fully authorized an RMA complete with free shipping.

Im tempted to give reapplying the thermal paste a crack (they said it wont break warranty). Either way, Im waiting until tomorrow to deal with it.

ASIC rating on the XFX7970 is an abysmal %56.9 and on the GE is %65 or so, which is pretty much the average.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

August 22 2012 21:36 GMT

#3964

In context, it sounds like the "nope" was to "just easier", and the rest was an "explanation" that supports my theory of a backchannel exclusivity for binning deal.

Bear in mind, I've been playing a lot of Mafia lately, this could be affecting my perceptions of people's communication.

Medrea

10003 Posts

August 22 2012 21:43 GMT

#3965

Ill come back to it tomorrow. Right now I am thinking that if I can repair the GE (max clocks and temperatures fall within expectations of actual working cards), then i will go ahead and keep it and RMA the 7970 and cancel the RMA on the 7970GE.

Its important to understand that the 7970GE was the same price I picked up the 7970 after rebates. So a refund on the 7970 pretty much means I effectively swapped a 7970 for a 7970GE for free.

If I can't repair it myself. They are both going back, GE first, and I am picking up the gigabyte model.

Friend is running 4 of these at .95 volts and total power consumption is not even 700W. Im a bit jealous. I just want one for now though. A revolution in bitcoin mining is coming soon.

MisterFred

United States2033 Posts

August 22 2012 22:19 GMT

#3966

I kind of thought like it sounded like nope to exclusivity, and basically a confirmation that it's just easier to focus on nvidia, lol. But yeah, either way it's not like companies are going to talk bout exclusivity or their design shortfalls in clear words on a public forum

xeo1

United States429 Posts

August 23 2012 05:23 GMT

#3967

hey guys can you recommend me programs to optimize my pc's performance? for example, quake live and sometimes starcraft 2 feel choppy even though my hardware is WAY superior to the requirements.

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

August 23 2012 10:13 GMT

#3968

On August 23 2012 14:23 xeo1 wrote:
hey guys can you recommend me programs to optimize my pc's performance? for example, quake live and sometimes starcraft 2 feel choppy even though my hardware is WAY superior to the requirements.

I guess what you can do is to remove unnecessary startup programs, and end useless background processes? As for SC2, 1.5 patch causes some performance issues.

p.s. I never really trusted 3rd party programs that are supposed to optimise...

Rollin

Australia1552 Posts

August 23 2012 12:38 GMT

#3969

Running msconfig and disabling anything you don't need to run will decrease boot times and reduce ram overhead I guess. Also, not having a pointless antivirus program installed would be beneficial. Barring that, and defragmentation, nothing else will magically increase performance by "optimising" stuff.

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

August 23 2012 22:46 GMT

#3970

Well, he did say he's got a "WAY superior" hardware than the requirements so it could be anything from game settings, driver issues, background program messing him, windows being retarded and so on. Or his view of his own hardware might be a bit inflated.

You really need more information about his problems, in what situations and games it happens and what hardware he actually got.

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

August 24 2012 10:51 GMT

#3971

Is there a way to choose which monitor a game starts on without making it the primary one or mirroring the two?

Altsa

Finland990 Posts

August 24 2012 16:35 GMT

#3972

Im looking to buy a laptop that also somewhat suits for gaming too. Main games im playing are dota 2 and sc2. Some candidates I have are Toshiba 17.3 Qosmio X870-127 and MSI 15.6" GT60 0NC-076NE. What I´d like to know if either of these run those games and how well. Also if there are good laptops for gaming with below 1500e price I´d like to know.

Iranon

United States983 Posts

August 24 2012 16:48 GMT

#3973

So there's one of these threads in SC2 strategy and SC2 custom, but none in SC2 general. Here's my question that really belongs in the nonexistent SC2 general SQSA thread... Exactly what setting controls the pylon power field showing up as a ring of dots or as a blue disk? I'd like to have my settings as low as they can be but still have the fancy pylon power.

BeMannerDuPenner

Germany5638 Posts

August 24 2012 20:51 GMT

#3974

well im getting more and more crashes nowadays. usually a freeze followed by a out of windows "parity error" or similar. after reset all normal.

its a quite new pc i build in april or so. didnt have that at all at the start, then like 2 times after d3 launch ingame. now its getting more frequent and happens just while watching shit/browsing too.

quick google brought up all kinds of stuff and nothing.
system: i5-2500k / Gigabyte 560ti 448 / Asrock Z77 Pro 4 / 8gb ram (would have to check brand, dont remember) / win7 pro

Mordanis

United States893 Posts

August 24 2012 21:42 GMT

#3975

I think the fan on my gpu is going out. It would be at 75 degrees without any load, and I heard a strange sound. It turned out to be that the fan was going on and off every 2 seconds or so, so I don't know what to do. The card is an XFX 687A-ZHFC, the 1 gb single fan version that has a history of having several issues with cooling..... So what can I do?

Wabbit

United States1028 Posts

August 24 2012 22:01 GMT

#3976

On August 25 2012 06:42 Mordanis wrote:
I think the fan on my gpu is going out. It would be at 75 degrees without any load, and I heard a strange sound. It turned out to be that the fan was going on and off every 2 seconds or so, so I don't know what to do. The card is an XFX 687A-ZHFC, the 1 gb single fan version that has a history of having several issues with cooling..... So what can I do?

Call XFX and set up an RMA. That's what warranty is for.

Silky

United States260 Posts

August 24 2012 23:44 GMT

#3977

So I am going to be ordering parts tomorrow from newegg and I want to make sure that all of these parts are able to do what I wish for them to accomplish. First of all I only am going to play sc2 on this computer and at medium quality while on skype/listening to music. I am hoping to get an average of around 60 fps with this build while doing those things that were just specified. So without further adieu, here are all my parts! please leave feedback it would be greatly appreciated!

Hard Drive--Western Digital AV-GP WD3200AUDX 320GB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

GPU--SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (11192-22-20G)

PSU--COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAD3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

RAM--Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory

Motherboard--ASRock B75M LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU--Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000

Optical Drive--SAMSUNG Internal DVD Writer Black SATA Model SH-222BB/RSBS

TheSwedishFan

Sweden608 Posts

August 25 2012 01:28 GMT

#3978

Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost?

Silky

United States260 Posts

August 25 2012 01:36 GMT

#3979

the reason i picked a high watt supply is because i plan on getting a better video card in about a month

Ata

Canada356 Posts

August 25 2012 02:14 GMT

#3980

On August 25 2012 10:28 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Will a system that demands 400 watt higher the electricity bill if it has a 600 watt powersupply instead of a 400 watt power supply? More specificly; Will the powersupply affect the electricity bill or is it the components that make up for the electricity cost?

Both, your powersupply will be most efficient at a range of loads (so if you get a 1000w psu, it might be only 60% efficient at 100w, meaning it draws like 180w from the wall to give 100w to components), the quality of the powersupply will also make a difference and in the end, some components require more power than others.