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Womwomwom
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On May 16 2012 00:19 TheToast wrote: ^Do drivers before OS updates. For starters, if you're doing optional updates, you'll probably end up installing drivers twice. And second, you really don't want to run into stability issues in the middle of downloading a 200-something MB service pack. Thanks, that's the kind of thing I needed to know  | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
On May 16 2012 01:46 Womwomwom wrote: Assuming no AppleCare or expensive software, $800-900 looks about right for an absolute stock 13" Macbook Pro. If condition is perfect and you have literally everything from box to literature, then $1,000 might even be possible. People really like it if they can gain access to AppleCare one way or another. Thanks for the input. Are there any specific things I should keep in mind before selling the computer? I know I need to clear out the harddrive and zero out the whole drive (which I plan on doing using the Mac Disk Utility). | ||
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XXhkXX
170 Posts
Would the change in speed affect actual gameplay or just start up time and save time? | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 16 2012 04:38 XXhkXX wrote: How much faster is a 7200rpm hard drive to a 5400rpm hard drive? Would the change in speed affect actual gameplay or just start up time and save time? Quite a bit. Read speed of a 7200 RPM drive is usually around 1 Mb/s, 5400 RPM drive is probably around 75% of that. You'll also see a big difference in the read dely (the amount of time for the drive to locate the files you're looking for). Could be has much as 50% longer on a 5400 RPM drive. Most difference you will see will be in loading times, but it will affect anything that requires reading or writing files from the hard drive. So that can include gameplay if the game in question is loading textures or the world in real time. | ||
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XXhkXX
170 Posts
On May 16 2012 04:45 TheToast wrote: Quite a bit. Read speed of a 7200 RPM drive is usually around 1 Mb/s, 5400 RPM drive is probably around 75% of that. You'll also see a big difference in the read dely (the amount of time for the drive to locate the files you're looking for). Could be has much as 50% longer on a 5400 RPM drive. Most difference you will see will be in loading times, but it will affect anything that requires reading or writing files from the hard drive. So that can include gameplay if the game in question is loading textures or the world in real time. So games like diablo 3 and sc2 would run considerably slower? how much fps slower about? I just got my laptop, is it worth sending back and adding a 7200rpm hard drive? | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
a) not a lot of data to load in the first place b) they're quite well optimized in this aspect 7200RPM drives and SSD's will only boost frame rates in games with massive amounts of data to load - that are also not well optimized, like some MMOs (Lineage 2). | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 16 2012 04:47 XXhkXX wrote: So games like diablo 3 and sc2 would run considerably slower? how much fps slower about? I just got my laptop, is it worth sending back and adding a 7200rpm hard drive? Starcraft 2 gameplay? Probably not. I don't know about Diablo 3. -edit: ninja! Honestly I would say it's worth it to get the 7200 RPM drive. Especially if you do any backup to an external drive, installing lots of games, hell even video encoding; you will get much better performance. You will likely even see improvements in things like Windows boot time. Depending on how good you're processor is, a 5400 RPM drive can be a real bottleneck for your system. The CPU can't process information faster if it can't read it from the HDD faster. | ||
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XXhkXX
170 Posts
On May 16 2012 04:53 TheToast wrote: Starcraft 2 gameplay? Probably not. I don't know about Diablo 3. -edit: ninja! Honestly I would say it's worth it to get the 7200 RPM drive. Especially if you do any backup to an external drive, installing lots of games, hell even video encoding; you will get much better performance. You will likely even see improvements in things like Windows boot time. Depending on how good you're processor is, a 5400 RPM drive can be a real bottleneck for your system. The CPU can't process information faster if it can't read it from the HDD faster. Thanks Wabbit and TheToast for the help, it was very informative! If I find the time I may ship it back (since they have a free refund and return thing) and get a 7200rpm hdd, but im kinda impatient XP. Thanks again! Oh I wanted to also ask, what are your general opinions on cooling pads in general, are they worth it? And are targus cooling pads generally good? If not, what brands are typically good? | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
edit: You'll get the same benefit keeping your laptop on a hard, level surface (a desk) and keeping it raised a little (all laptops are raised a little) as you would from using a cooling pad. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On May 16 2012 06:56 Nabutso wrote: Cooling pads are generally not worth it. Just buy a can of compressed air and clean out the fan (while making sure you don't move it with the air) every 3-4 months and you'll be absolutely fine. edit: You'll get the same benefit keeping your laptop on a hard, level surface (a desk) and keeping it raised a little (all laptops are raised a little) as you would from using a cooling pad. Pretty much. They can have an effect, but it's usually just a few degrees C difference. The article is a few years old, but Cnet did do a decent round of test with some main ones on the market: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9700201-1.html It is worth noting that the passive cooling pad showed the best improvements, but the antec active cooling model wasn't far behind it. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On May 16 2012 01:58 djcube wrote: Thanks for the input. Are there any specific things I should keep in mind before selling the computer? I know I need to clear out the harddrive and zero out the whole drive (which I plan on doing using the Mac Disk Utility). Basically that. Wipe everything, reinstall stock OS, put everything back into box, and then sell. Keep in mind this is how you sell all Macs whether it be Macbooks or iMacs. I still think it might be worth aiming for $900, if you still have everything, haven't owned it for a year, and have all of the relevant literature and receipts. | ||
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Zushen
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EdenPLusDucky
571 Posts
On May 17 2012 06:26 Zushen wrote: my pc runs starcraft well over 60fps. is there a way to cap it without using v-sync? for some reason when i stream and turn it on it gets only 30fps. and is there a way to use a non-irc chat for own3d.tv i find it to be bothersome. go to variables.txt in your documents/starcraft II/ and add frameratecap=60 frameratecapGlue=30 | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4177 Posts
1.87GHz 1 GB Ram 80GB Hard Drive 32bit operating system Realtek high definition audio sound card ATI Radoen video card im about to pay 100 for this levono laptop...good deal? yey or ney? condition is good, bought in 09 | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On May 17 2012 12:39 mAKiTO wrote: Specs are- Intel core duo 1.87GHz 1 GB Ram 80GB Hard Drive 32bit operating system Realtek high definition audio sound card ATI Radoen video card im about to pay 100 for this levono laptop...good deal? yey or ney? condition is good, bought in 09 Keep in mind it probably won't have any battery life either. And 1gb of ram in 09 sounds unrealistic. | ||
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Ficetool
Germany165 Posts
8GB DDR3-RAM PC-1333 Nvidia GeForce GTX550 Ti 1024MB 1000GB S-ATA2 Festplatte DVD-Brenner 22x Dual-Layer 5.1 Sound / Gigabit-LAN / Cardreader Would this comp be able to handle Diablo3? I Don't think the graphics card is nearly good enough...but what about the rest? | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
But yes, it can run D3 fine. Might not max at 1080p but it would come close. | ||
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XXhkXX
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