EPTIts got a Intel Core i5 460M / 2.53 GHz processor, 4GB RAM, and a Intel HD Graphics Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0 graphics card.
Would this laptop be able to play SC2 without lag?
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supersirotic
Canada6 Posts
Its got a Intel Core i5 460M / 2.53 GHz processor, 4GB RAM, and a Intel HD Graphics Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0 graphics card. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:05 PraetorialGamer wrote: It will run Starcraft 2, but barely and with massive lag if you get a large number of units on screen. The minimum requirements for Starcraft 2 mandate a 2.6 Ghz processor, but you should be fine(there will be lag). You'll be playing on the lowest settings at a okay resolution, but it will lag significantly. The minimum requirements for Starcraft II is a 2.6GHz Intel Pentium 4 processor which is FAR worst than any current processor be it Intel core i3, i5, i7, or AMD Athlon II, Phenom II. It's not the processor that's the problem. It's the integrated graphics card. | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:11 skyR wrote: The minimum requirements for Starcraft II is a 2.6GHz Intel Pentium 4 processor which is FAR worst than any current processor be it Intel core i3, i5, i7, or AMD Athlon II, Phenom II. It's not the processor that's the problem. It's the integrated graphics card. Actually, I've found that integrated graphics will, to a very, very, limited extent run Starcraft 2. It's not comfortable, it lags noticeably, but it runs. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:13 iTzAnglory wrote: No graphics card at all, (I do not find integrated Intel cards as GPUs). This is somewhat designed for Maplestory and Runescape. As I tell many people, if you are not planning to spend over $1600 on a laptop for GAMING, do not even buy it. Nah, there's a few options available below that point if you're more interested in gameplay than graphics, depending on the game. But on integrated not counting, I pretty much agree. Me personally, I game on desktops and use laptops for email when my desktop is in a different time zone, but everyone has different priorities. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:15 PraetorialGamer wrote: Actually, I've found that integrated graphics will, to a very, very, limited extent run Starcraft 2. It's not comfortable, it lags noticeably, but it runs. The title of this thread includes "without lag." I'm not denying the fact that it'll be capable of running the game. | ||
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WayHeroic
United States111 Posts
The case is kind of flimsy and the speaker doesn't have the greatest quality, but it gives great price/performance. I smoothly play on low settings, but I can go higher with more lag. And in case you were wondering, the difference between an i3-380M and i5-480M to my understanding is just the ability to turbo boost. | ||
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supersirotic
Canada6 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
I have the same specs (well, 6GB RAM, but whatever) and run SC2 on Low. Maxed battles are a pain, though. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 31 2011 10:21 Zeke50100 wrote: Technically, if you limit the frame rate to 10 FPS, you'll run without lag in any scenario >.< I have the same specs (well, 6GB RAM, but whatever) and run SC2 on Low. Maxed battles are a pain, though. 5 bucks says I can build a PC that can't handle a 10 FPS cap. The issue would be convincing the game to launch. And robbing the museum for parts. | ||
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WayHeroic
United States111 Posts
On May 31 2011 09:07 supersirotic wrote: Thanks guys. WayHeroic, I was looking at the link you gave me, and I saw that some of the reviewers had problems with a screen-door effect. Does your laptop have this problem? If it does, it's not all too noticeable. I wasn't really nitpicky when I purchased this laptop, I just wanted the specs for the price. The image is clear enough, it's not like it looks like a projector image. | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:13 iTzAnglory wrote: No graphics card at all, (I do not find integrated Intel cards as GPUs). This is somewhat designed for Maplestory and Runescape. As I tell many people, if you are not planning to spend over $1600 on a laptop for GAMING, do not even buy it. Not really true, I bought a Gateway FX laptop (Core 2 Duo, Nvidia 9800M, 4GB RAM) last year for ~$850 that runs SC2 on Ultra at 30-40 fps even in big battles. It only has a Core 2 Duo, so it isn't the fastest for other things like video editing/encoding, but as a purely gaming laptop it is really nice. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 01 2011 05:47 ak1knight wrote: Not really true, I bought a Gateway FX laptop (Core 2 Duo, Nvidia 9800M, 4GB RAM) last year for ~$850 that runs SC2 on Ultra at 30-40 fps even in big battles. It only has a Core 2 Duo, so it isn't the fastest for other things like video editing/encoding, but as a purely gaming laptop it is really nice. I think he may have meant overall gaming, as opposed to purely Blizzard gaming. Blizz is notoriously nice to lower end systems. Even so, I'm with you in spirit, because you can get something functional for some value of gaming well below that point, as long as you don't expect desktop graphics out of it. | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On June 01 2011 05:53 JingleHell wrote: I think he may have meant overall gaming, as opposed to purely Blizzard gaming. Blizz is notoriously nice to lower end systems. Even so, I'm with you in spirit, because you can get something functional for some value of gaming well below that point, as long as you don't expect desktop graphics out of it. It can also run pretty much any game I throw at it at at least medium settings (Crysis 2, Dirt 2, UT3, a few others). I agree with you that gaming laptops get a lot of undue hate. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On June 01 2011 06:01 skyR wrote: If you haven't noticed, the notebook that is linked in the OP has integrated graphics while yours has a 9800M. A 9800M is far superior to integrated graphics so obviously it's going to run many games at reasonable settings. I was responding to the claim that a gaming laptop under $1600 isn't worth buying. Anyway, to prevent derailing this thread further, here's a laptop that should run SC2 very well that I believe is in your budget: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6500360&CatId=4948 | ||
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WayHeroic
United States111 Posts
Here's a site I used to figure out how powerful of a graphics card I needed for my laptop. Hope this helps. | ||
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Dhays9
United States51 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:15 PraetorialGamer wrote: Actually, I've found that integrated graphics will, to a very, very, limited extent run Starcraft 2. It's not comfortable, it lags noticeably, but it runs. I just got a SC guest pass last week to see if my computer would run it. I have a Intel GMA 4500M Intergrated GPU (series 4 I believe) and it runs on low without lag. I have not tried medium or medium/low as it does not matter to me much (cuz I found out I can run it). | ||
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supersirotic
Canada6 Posts
On June 01 2011 06:35 WayHeroic wrote: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html Here's a site I used to figure out how powerful of a graphics card I needed for my laptop. Hope this helps. Thanks, that's a useful site. Yeah, I've been looking around and I found this other computer with an i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz and a slightly worse graphics card (NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 525M) than the computer ak1knight suggested has. A better processor is more important than a better graphics card, right? | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On June 01 2011 18:37 supersirotic wrote: Thanks, that's a useful site. Yeah, I've been looking around and I found this other computer with an i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz and a slightly worse graphics card (NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 525M) than the computer ak1knight suggested has. A better processor is more important than a better graphics card, right? It depends on what you want to do aside from playing games. If all you're going to do is play SC2, browse the internet, and write papers then pretty much any modern processor will be fine, but if you want to stream or do other processor-intensive tasks like video/photo editing a better processor will help do those things faster. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On June 01 2011 06:36 Dhays9 wrote: I just got a SC guest pass last week to see if my computer would run it. I have a Intel GMA 4500M Intergrated GPU (series 4 I believe) and it runs on low without lag. I have not tried medium or medium/low as it does not matter to me much (cuz I found out I can run it). Unless you're running the game at an incredibly low resolution, I find it hard to believe that you're playing it without lag. Certainly, 15 FPS is playable, but it's in no way optimal for gaming. I have Intel GMA HD (which is at least twice as powerful, if not three times as much in certain games) and I can manage 35-45 FPS at the beginning of a non-Zerg game, and it drops down to 15 FPS in larger battles, and that's at a 1280x720 resolution. | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115987 gl hf | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On June 02 2011 05:35 Juddas wrote: I have been running SC2 on a similar system except 3 Ram and Pentium processor with integrated GPU. If you haven't bought it yet, don't. It is no fun just invest a teensy bit more and get something with a GPU and just better. This is what i'm about to buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115987 gl hf That is actually an exceptional deal. $700 for a high-end processor and a decent graphics card? I would take it. There's "only" 4GB RAM, but that's plenty for most people (just means you can't switch between multiple games while streaming as easily >.<). It's not a quad-core, meaning streaming wouldn't be pain-free while gaming, although that's not the goal XD | ||
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Juddas
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Dhays9
United States51 Posts
On June 02 2011 05:01 Zeke50100 wrote: Unless you're running the game at an incredibly low resolution, I find it hard to believe that you're playing it without lag. Certainly, 15 FPS is playable, but it's in no way optimal for gaming. I have Intel GMA HD (which is at least twice as powerful, if not three times as much in certain games) and I can manage 35-45 FPS at the beginning of a non-Zerg game, and it drops down to 15 FPS in larger battles, and that's at a 1280x720 resolution. Nope I am running it at the same resolution I believe and I have played without any lag (except when I played on wireless internet in the cafe, then I lagged due to poor intertubing). | ||
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WayHeroic
United States111 Posts
EDIT: speaking of which, what is your budget and what sites would you be able to purchase from (amazon, newegg, tigerdirect)? | ||
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shtdisturbance
Canada613 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On June 02 2011 09:12 Dhays9 wrote: Nope I am running it at the same resolution I believe and I have played without any lag (except when I played on wireless internet in the cafe, then I lagged due to poor intertubing). Well, I guess "lag" is the wrong term here. I really meant smooth/stutter-less gameplay, which I can guarantee no ordinary GMA 4500M can accomplish. Running the game at 10 FPS max is not smooth :/ | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
Also if you prefer Toshiba over Acer and have 80$ to spend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=34-214-190&SortField=3&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=100&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo can someone please fill me in on the 360 deal though? i talked to the guy at best buy and he said newegg was not a retailer as far as he knows but wasnt sure. If someone could link it that would be great. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 02 2011 11:47 Juddas wrote: yeah listen to zeke. In offline mode, whenever I close all useless processes, have all bloatware removed, al startup disabled, I can get maybe 13 fps. At that fps good luck forcefielding, fungal, anything really that requires micro. Whenever both sides are above 100 supply you get >5 fps. Don't do it. Get a higher performance or at least one with a dedicated GPU. Also if you prefer Toshiba over Acer and have 80$ to spend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=34-214-190&SortField=3&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=100&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo Toshiba has crap support. http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/outFrm.jsp?ofId=AskIris&searchString=bios password&x=0&y=0 | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Juddas
768 Posts
Unfortunately, I am only going to be a sophomore in high school but I really want this promotion. | ||
jacosajh
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Don't buy into the free Xbox 360 bullcrap. The only qualifying retailers right now is HP, Dell, Best Buy, and the Microsoft store. The computer prices are inflated in a way that it subsidizes the cost of the Xbox 360. I don't know if Microsoft intended it this way, or if the retailers themselves are just taking advantage of something Microsoft intended to be something good. Either way, most of the PCs are inflated $100~200 more than they're worth when compared to something reasonable. I walked into a Best Buy the other day and they even loaded up the bundle even more with Printers, external hard-drives, laptop case, etc. Sure, those extras were optional, but they advertised in a way that implied that was the package. So you come into the store thinking you're going to spend $700, get a free Xbox 360, when really you just bought about $1000 worth of stuff, and none of it was free. Typical of Best Buy though. On another note, I have an HP dv6-3160us for sale on Amazon. It has an AMD quad core N950, ATI Mobility 5650, 640 GB HDD, 4GB RAM, etc. I'm selling it for basically $694 including shipping and insurance, originally bought for around $900. I just bought it about 2 months ago, barely used it, and I still have the box and packaging. Of course, if you want, there are some new ones listed there also. It really is a great laptop, and my favorite thing about it was that you could turn off the 5650 and turn on a 4200 to save battery whenever you weren't playing video games. I just bought a new Lenovo Y510 because there was such a great sale on it over Memorial Day, but it's over now. Otherwise, I would've suggested that to you. Juddas: Toshiba is ok price-point wise. They're typically a bit cheaper than the competition, for what they offer. But the trade-off is in cheaper parts. I've had to fix ALOT of Toshibas both when I worked as Tech at Circuit City, and for friends/family. The biggest problem is the electrical socket in the back bending/breaking/warping due to heat/etc. They also have alot of HDD failures. At least in my experience. I'd only buy a Toshiba if it was 25% cheaper than something its equivalent. | ||
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