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apm66
Canada943 Posts
i'm currently with Rogers, and as we all know, it's a freaking rip off. and teksavvy seems to be the most cost efficient isp download: 15mb + upload:1mb + bandwidth: ∞ = for $55/mth If you happen to be using Teksavvy cable, what are the pros and cons? Is there any random lag spikes, drops, etc...? Thank you. | ||
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Tarot
Canada440 Posts
It's still way better than Rogers and Bell. edit: If you're unsure about switching, at least call up rogers and threaten to switch. Then they'll give you a more reasonable rate.  | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
cable is pretty good, it had really really bad route to jtv tho before but now it's great, watch like 8 streams no problem!!! and no throttling, so basically its torrents all day if u do and watch streams at the same time. very good imo in terms of gaming? i dont really game much nowadays, but i used to play wow and it was fine, sc2 is pretty good. if there's some measurement u wanna see, tell me what to do and illl do it and u can see the ping or whatever | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On May 16 2011 09:03 zev318 wrote: i have both cable and dsl package (lol cause im baller, but basically dsl is for the family and i use the cable for myself :DDDD) cable is pretty good, it had really really bad route to jtv tho before but now it's great, watch like 8 streams no problem!!! and no throttling, so basically its torrents all day if u do and watch streams at the same time. very good imo in terms of gaming? i dont really game much nowadays, but i used to play wow and it was fine, sc2 is pretty good. if there's some measurement u wanna see, tell me what to do and illl do it and u can see the ping or whatever That's great.I wanted to know if you guys random lags during games and what not. But I'll wait for more inputs before I make a final decision On May 16 2011 09:44 HCmystic wrote: rogers is crap switch to teksavvy like i am... guy wanted me to pay the extra $50/month so i can use as much bandwidth i wanted, wat a joke, the gb cap limit is a joke Thanks, but that's not the point of this thread at all. | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
There was a time approximately a few weeks to maybe a month ago where Teksavvy Cable was waiting on upgrades which resulted in a while of ridiculously crap speeds due to congestion during peak hours (~1-3mbps down, lots of packet loss), however that has since been fixed. I never get any random drops, or random lag spikes, and even during peak hours now, I am still able to get at least 20mbps down. edit: The lag will probably depend on which location in Ontario you are at. Different POI's will have different congestion issues, so while one area may be severely congested, another could also be lag free. I am currently on the 15/1, 300gb plan for about $46/month, which is more than enough bandwidth for me. Depending on how much bandwidth you use, the 300gb plan may be cheaper, but I don't know how much you use so thats your choice. Teksavvy cable does not have a way for you to check your monthly bandwidth usage, so if they ever say you're over, you would have to take their word for it. It was much faster than Teksavvy DSL, I am able to be watching a stream at 720p+ and still have perfect latency when playing SC2. Finally, to correct a misunderstanding, Teksavvy is not a sub-company of Bell. They are an independent ISP that buys the last mile infrastructure of Bell and Rogers to provide internet. So while their internet services may be using Bell/Rogers lines, they are not part of the same company. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
On May 16 2011 09:52 Nagisama wrote: I've had both Teksavvy DSL (both regular and dry loop) and now I have finally settled with Teksavvy Cable. The cable I find is awesome, the speed is usually 25+mbps down and consistent 1mbps up. I am currently on the 15/1, 300gb plan for about $46/month, which is more than enough bandwidth for me. You are on an advertised 15 mbps line but get speeds like 25+ mbps? Or am I missing something? If that's the case, then I better switch asap. I was worried about the slower speed since I have a 25 mbps connectoin with Rogers and thought the drop to 15 mbps was too much so I've been hesitant to switch. | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On May 16 2011 10:00 beefhamburger wrote: You are on an advertised 15 mbps line but get speeds like 25+ mbps? Or am I missing something? If that's the case, then I better switch asap. I was worried about the slower speed since I have a 25 mbps connectoin with Rogers and thought the drop to 15 mbps was too much so I've been hesitant to switch. The 25+ mbps speeds may be due to Roger's speedboost, I'm not 100% sure how it works and how it affects speed tests, but here is my current speed test at 9pm on a Sunday. If I were to do the test on say, Monday morning/afternoon before 5pm, it caps out at 30mbps, which is the apparent cap on the modem. ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1297717439.png) The test on the bottom is supposedly not affected by things such as speedboost according to people on dslreports, but I still don't find that big a difference. ![[image loading]](http://www.dslreports.com/im/96923107/2340.png) | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
The time of ridiculous congestion is most likely gone as Teksavvy actively tries to keep up with upgrades on the infrastructure as to avoid super low speeds like a few months ago. Their CEO is pretty active on the dslreports forums (specifically under Teksavvy ISP) and always provides updates to what they're upgrading and stuff there too. | ||
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jamboo
Canada44 Posts
On May 16 2011 08:27 apm66 wrote: I've read a lot of reviews about teksavvy's cable, and so far so good (minus the fake reviews). However, all reviews seemed to be coming from non-gamers, and that didn't help me much. i'm currently with Rogers, and as we all know, it's a freaking rip off. and teksavvy seems to be the most cost efficient isp download: 15mb + upload:1mb + bandwidth: ∞ = for $55/mth If you happen to be using Teksavvy cable, what are the pros and cons? Is there any random lag spikes, drops, etc...? Thank you. 1. They are not a sub-company of Bell. They use Bell phone lines for their DSL last mile as Bell is forced to share with competitors. 2. Teksavvy cable uses Rogers lines and the performance will be mostly the same as cable congestion is at the node. Maybe better as it circumvents Rogers throttling. I think dslreports.com is the best source of info on service providers. Teksavvy has a forum there you could ask questions in. | ||
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TerraTron
Canada137 Posts
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MetalLobster
Canada532 Posts
I've been really interesting in teksavvy because Rogers sucks and the bandwidth cap is a joke. | ||
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jamboo
Canada44 Posts
On May 16 2011 10:34 TerraTron wrote: Anyone have any info on how good it is in the kanata region of ontario? I was going to switch to teksavvy myself and right now im debating on cable or DSL, I've always had DSL because its more reliable, but from the reports on this thread it seems to be more efficient to get a plan that's slightly higher for 5x the speed, especially at peak hours. I would get Teksavvy cable if I was in an area that could. Tek cable is just as good as their DSL as it is unthrottled and unlimited. But it is not limited to 5mbit like DSL. Unless you are in an area with congestion. | ||
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TerraTron
Canada137 Posts
On May 16 2011 10:40 jamboo wrote: I would get Teksavvy cable if I was in an area that could. Tek cable is just as good as their DSL as it is unthrottled and unlimited. But it is not limited to 5mbit like DSL. Unless you are in an area with congestion. How can I find out if my area has congestion or not? Is there a forum like dslreports.com? | ||
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On May 16 2011 10:39 MetalLobster wrote: I've read somewhere on how Ex-Rogers users that switched to teksavvy have experienced throttling and lag spikes more than those who are not. Is it true? I've been really interesting in teksavvy because Rogers sucks and the bandwidth cap is a joke. I don't think that should be the case, but I can't say if it is true or not as I was ex-Bell instead of Rogers. On May 16 2011 10:48 TerraTron wrote: How can I find out if my area has congestion or not? Is there a forum like dslreports.com? Just browse the Teksavvy forum on dslreports regarding congestion. Teksavvy's CEO, Rocky, is very active on that forum. I would link it but I don't know if it goes against advertising rules on TL. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
TekSavvy looks like a good choice, but are there any ISPs in the durham region that offer more upload than 1mb ? | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
I have a friend using TekSavvy and he loves it. I was recently talking to another friend and he told me he downloads over 5 terabytes a month. I have no idea how that is possible but with him, I don't doubt it at all. Anyway, point is that he was recommending the following ISPs which you may want to look into as well as TekSavvy: 3web.com eyesurf.net After reading this thread I think I'm going to investigate alternatives as well. EDIT: The two options listed only have unlimited plans for their DSL lines, so probably not what you're after. My mistake. | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
Which modem (cable) did you guys get? | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
The greatest thing is no throttling. I originally thought Rogers wasn't even throttled based on speeds versus bell, but now I max out my connection on almost every torrent I download which even trumps Rogers performance. The only downside is the low upstream, only 500k, which isn't good at all for streaming. But whatever - no contract, $42/month after taxes. | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
On May 17 2011 00:41 bruteMax wrote: I've been with Teksavvy for 2yrs now, switched from Sympatico. I'm in Ottawa and have never had an issue. Outages have been very rare, and we're always notified ahead of time. What's your plan like? I'm also from Ottawa and I've had to pay an extra 10$/month for extra usage (bringing me to 180gb/month) and paying an absurd amount.. almost 90$/m (on Sympatico) EDIT: Just looked at the difference between DSL and Cable on teksavvy, sigh I don't have cable input in this room @.@ I am very tempted on trying the DSL, as currently I only get 6down. But on the site it says "up to 5Mdown" which is a little unsettling. Anyone with the DSL package in here? How is it for you guys? ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1302116263.png) | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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AirportSecurity
Canada34 Posts
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 19 2011 04:58 SONE wrote: What's your plan like? I'm also from Ottawa and I've had to pay an extra 10$/month for extra usage (bringing me to 180gb/month) and paying an absurd amount.. almost 90$/m (on Sympatico) EDIT: Just looked at the difference between DSL and Cable on teksavvy, sigh I don't have cable input in this room @.@ I am very tempted on trying the DSL, as currently I only get 6down. But on the site it says "up to 5Mdown" which is a little unsettling. Anyone with the DSL package in here? How is it for you guys? ??? buy a router and a cheap 100ft ethernet cable from a computer store | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
On May 19 2011 04:57 a176 wrote: I switched to teksavvy last november. No regrets. While you do have to buy a modem and pay for installation, that money is recouped fast from all the savings you get over rogers - especially with overage charges. The greatest thing is no throttling. I originally thought Rogers wasn't even throttled based on speeds versus bell, but now I max out my connection on almost every torrent I download which even trumps Rogers performance. The only downside is the low upstream, only 500k, which isn't good at all for streaming. But whatever - no contract, $42/month after taxes. You sure teksevvy doesn't throttle BT? I heard Bell forced it upon them, along with the "no more unlimited bandwidth" policy. | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
On May 19 2011 06:15 a176 wrote: ??? buy a router and a cheap 100ft ethernet cable from a computer store  if I didnt live with others no problem. The only practical solution is wireless and, I just don't feel comfortable it no matter how much it has changed over the years. If I were to use a cable, it would either have to go through the foyer of my house, or along a fireplace lol. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 19 2011 06:28 Hikari wrote: You sure teksevvy doesn't throttle BT? I heard Bell forced it upon them, along with the "no more unlimited bandwidth" policy. UBB decision was reversed by the federal government so no this is not true anymore. Maybe sometime in the future, this may become true again. | ||
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On May 19 2011 04:58 SONE wrote: What's your plan like? I'm also from Ottawa and I've had to pay an extra 10$/month for extra usage (bringing me to 180gb/month) and paying an absurd amount.. almost 90$/m (on Sympatico) EDIT: Just looked at the difference between DSL and Cable on teksavvy, sigh I don't have cable input in this room @.@ I am very tempted on trying the DSL, as currently I only get 6down. But on the site it says "up to 5Mdown" which is a little unsettling. Anyone with the DSL package in here? How is it for you guys? Get yourself a router, several 20-100 foot cat6 cables and make a project of setting up ethernet ports in several parts of your house. It took my dad + 1 a couple of hours to do it, but now we have ethernet ports in all bedrooms + basement living area, and a gigabit network. IMO definitely worth it. It will even increase your property value slightly lol. Edit: i'm not sure how different things are in Ottawa (i'm in toronto), but to pay $90 for that connection is absurd. I pay pretty much half that for a 25mbit down 1mbit up with rogers... | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 19 2011 06:28 Hikari wrote: You sure teksevvy doesn't throttle BT? I heard Bell forced it upon them, along with the "no more unlimited bandwidth" policy. sorry, teksavvy cable. throttling is still in place on dsl. | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
On May 19 2011 07:02 Reason.SC2 wrote: Get yourself a router, several 20-100 foot cat6 cables and make a project of setting up ethernet ports in several parts of your house. It took my dad + 1 a couple of hours to do it, but now we have ethernet ports in all bedrooms + basement living area, and a gigabit network. IMO definitely worth it. It will even increase your property value slightly lol. Edit: i'm not sure how different things are in Ottawa (i'm in toronto), but to pay $90 for that connection is absurd. I pay pretty much half that for a 25mbit down 1mbit up with rogers... Pretty much lol. I didn't know it existed but I came across the powerline networking stuff, it seems kind of cool and my house is about 9years old so I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with it, as that would be my only option for cable internet in this house. EDIT: Not paying it for the speed, it's strictly for the extra bandwidth. It's cheaper to pay for the extra bandwidth than go over it and pay the extra fees obviously | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
Does anyone know go it is around the Guelph / Kitchener / Waterloo area? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On May 19 2011 09:37 Vinx wrote: I have really been considering this lately, rogers is a joke and i've already had to raise my cap once. Does anyone know go it is around the Guelph / Kitchener / Waterloo area? If you go on the Teksavvy website and go to the link that orders their services, you can enter a postal code and the website will check if their services are available in your area. | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On May 19 2011 09:37 Vinx wrote: I have really been considering this lately, rogers is a joke and i've already had to raise my cap once. Does anyone know go it is around the Guelph / Kitchener / Waterloo area? or call teksavvy. they're super friendly and you won't even have time to make yourself a steak because you get connected to customer service instantly  | ||
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SONE
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 19 2011 13:11 SONE wrote: How is cable internet installed? I'm wondering because my parents had a guy hook us up with free basic cable and.. I don't wanna order cable internet if I'mma get boned for it @.@ It's just cable instead of a phone line. So where ever the cable outlet that your TV plugs into, that would be where the modem/router goes. | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
On May 19 2011 13:15 skyR wrote: It's just cable instead of a phone line. So where ever the cable outlet that your TV plugs into, that would be where the modem/router goes. Sorry I wasn't really clear. I meant if I were to purchase cable internet(currently on DSL with Bell) and if they had a guy come over and set me up. Pretty much I'm wondering if I were to go ahead and get teksavvy cable, would there be problems because I have "illegal" cable? or would I just say I have cable and depending on the dude they don't care to ask what subscription I have or whatever? | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On May 19 2011 13:18 SONE wrote: Sorry I wasn't really clear. I meant if I were to purchase cable internet(currently on DSL with Bell) and if they had a guy come over and set me up. Pretty much I'm wondering if I were to go ahead and get teksavvy cable, would there be problems because I have "illegal" cable? or would I just say I have cable and depending on the dude they don't care to ask what subscription I have or whatever? It's just a cable lol. There's no special cable designed for each ISP. However, teksavvy have their own list of modems that they used. So if you were to go with TS, you would need to buy their choice of modem if you don't have one. | ||
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skyR
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SONE
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 19 2011 13:29 skyR wrote: I'm pretty sure a tech isn't required for installation. But if one is required, I don't think he would care much? Most of the techs are pretty cool individuals (at least the ones I've came across). They do send a tech out to do the configuration so you connect to teksavvy. I can't remember if they did this from inside the house or from the box on the street, but the tech did just make sure the wiring was okay. | ||
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neats
Canada59 Posts
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On May 19 2011 15:28 a176 wrote: They do send a tech out to do the configuration so you connect to teksavvy. I can't remember if they did this from inside the house or from the box on the street, but the tech did just make sure the wiring was okay. Depends. I called them yesteryda and they said all I had to do is call rogers and tell them that I'm swtching to a third party isp and deactivate/activate on the same day. | ||
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TeaGreen
Canada147 Posts
I had a 16 mb Bell line and since Teksavvy is actually a reseller of Bell wholesale DSL, when I switched to the "5 mb" and the profile stayed. So I pay for the the 39.95 unlimited line but actually get 16 mb profile. This is the only reason why I haven't switched over to their cable. I get about the same speed, it's a bit cheaper and it's just as fast download wise (maybe not without Roger's Speedboost) and the upload is like 0.4 mb less (I don't care). Switching from Bell to them was completely flawless as well. No interruption of service at all but I guess it's when you switch from like Rogers home phone to Bell home phone when the shit really fucking starts to go nuts... | ||
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Thadorus
Canada136 Posts
i am assuming this because they use the same cables, right? | ||
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
On May 19 2011 17:25 Thadorus wrote: If i have rogers cable does that mean i can get teksavvy cable? i checked on their website and it said there wasn't cable in my region but maybe its an error since i have rogers? i am assuming this because they use the same cables, right? They should be able to use the same cable as rogers, give em a call to verify. | ||
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
On May 19 2011 13:18 SONE wrote: Sorry I wasn't really clear. I meant if I were to purchase cable internet(currently on DSL with Bell) and if they had a guy come over and set me up. Pretty much I'm wondering if I were to go ahead and get teksavvy cable, would there be problems because I have "illegal" cable? or would I just say I have cable and depending on the dude they don't care to ask what subscription I have or whatever? A tech is required if you haven't had cable internet before in your house. In a house, they may check the wiring panel in your basement and do some wiring on your coaxial cable jacks. Similar thing goes for apartment/condo units. But if you have had rogers before, no tech guy should be required. Your internet should be flipped on whenever they said the start day is. On May 16 2011 09:52 Nagisama wrote:Depending on how much bandwidth you use, the 300gb plan may be cheaper, but I don't know how much you use so thats your choice. Teksavvy cable does not have a way for you to check your monthly bandwidth usage, so if they ever say you're over, you would have to take their word for it. that sucks. i used to use teksavvy dsl before i moved and i liked how i could track the bandwidth usage from their website just by entering my email. guess you can't do that anymore with cable. | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
On May 19 2011 07:05 a176 wrote: sorry, teksavvy cable. throttling is still in place on dsl. if teksavvy cable does not throttle BT, I am switching as soon as the stupid contract is over. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 20 2011 05:05 Hikari wrote: if teksavvy cable does not throttle BT, I am switching as soon as the stupid contract is over. its actually kind of bad. the torrent maxes out my connection and everything else suffers, i dont even have enough left for watching streams LOL have to limit the dl speed from within utorrent  | ||
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On May 20 2011 08:37 a176 wrote: its actually kind of bad. the torrent maxes out my connection and everything else suffers, i dont even have enough left for watching streams LOL have to limit the dl speed from within utorrent I don't think it's that much of a big deal. You can always torrent when you're off | ||
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bruteMax
Canada339 Posts
On May 19 2011 07:05 a176 wrote: sorry, teksavvy cable. throttling is still in place on dsl. Throttling of bittorrent traffic only takes place between 6pm and "sometime shortly after midnight". I'm not sure exactly when but the few times I've checked before going to sleep I notice my throughput is in the 300-400KB/s range. When it's throttled it's capped at 25-30KB/s. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On May 21 2011 01:42 bruteMax wrote: Throttling of bittorrent traffic only takes place between 6pm and "sometime shortly after midnight". I'm not sure exactly when but the few times I've checked before going to sleep I notice my throughput is in the 300-400KB/s range. When it's throttled it's capped at 25-30KB/s. <3 cable ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/00Bw3.png) | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
can't find any decent reviews about the company, but reading their TOS online: 1.9 Unlimited downloading: CIK might provide unlimited internet upload/download with or without conditions which is based on residential customers normal usage, if abnormal usage or malicious activities detected which endangers CIK network, CIK might suspend customer’s service without notice. CIK unlimited internet downloading policy is also governed by CRTC rules and decision, government laws, and Rogers/Bell’s policy which if any change, CIK will notice customers by email 30 days in advance at least. im not too sure about what a TOS of an ISP should say, but the usage of "might", is that normal? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
They say "might" so that gives them the right to terminate you if you end up being a bandwidth whore or impose caps. I believe you can find the same thing paraphrased in Teksavvy's TOS as well. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On March 26 2012 11:49 skyR wrote: I know someone with CIK DSL though I've never heard of them until that someone mentioned it. I think they're popular among Asians since the company is Chinese I think? The reviews on DSLReports doesn't look good though: http://www.dslreports.com/comments/3536 They say "might" so that gives them the right to terminate you if you end up being a bandwidth whore or impose caps. I believe you can find the same thing paraphrased in Teksavvy's TOS as well. a lot of those are at least 1+ year old comments though. which makes it hard to judge if they're any good. | ||
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skyR
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downmaster
Canada116 Posts
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FlawlessFeeL
Canada88 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The primary difference between the two services is that cable suffers from congestion while DSL suffers from distance. 7Mbps upload isn't ADSL so don't be mistaken, ADSL with Teksavvy is still limited to 1Mbps. VDSL is required for 7Mbps upload. | ||
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FlawlessFeeL
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
edit: oh I guess you can bond lines as well but that's going to be more expensive | ||
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