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Poll: Preferred Mechanical Keyboard SwitchesCherry MX Blue (152) 42% Cherry MX Brown (137) 38% Cherry MX Black (45) 13% Other (If i'm missing any lol) (12) 3% Cherry MX Red (10) 3% Cherry MX Clear (3) 1% 359 total votes Your vote: Preferred Mechanical Keyboard Switches (Vote): Cherry MX Blue
(Vote): Cherry MX Brown
(Vote): Cherry MX Clear
(Vote): Cherry MX Red
(Vote): Cherry MX Black
(Vote): Other (If i'm missing any lol)
Hey guys just wondering the the preferred keyboard switches on teamliquid are lol
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Its all in what you like,
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For my personal preference, it's brown.
Only because I've never tried any other mechanical keyboard switch, just the ones on this tenkeyless Filco.
I think everything else is switch preference for the user. Blues are great for those who love typing; the auditory feedback that the blues give help the typist get into a nice rhythm. It's also great for those who play SC2 and rhythmically spam their hotkeys.
The browns (the ones I chose) have a very light actuation (at only 45g) and don't have the high pitch of the blues. I can still hear the keyboard when I type, but when I have my headphones on I can't hear it at all. It's a nicely balanced keyboard for gaming and typing.
The reds and blacks are linear switches, better used in FPS-type games but a lot of people here at TL.net don't mind using the blacks for SC2 at all. Perhaps they all have iNcontrol type beast hands. But even at 60g, they are still lighter than the traditional rubber dome keyboard.
No opinion on the clears as I haven't done any research on there.
Overall, it's what suits the end user best. For me it's the cherry browns.
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Ah, thanks for your opinion sawe, i'll be getting a keyboard sometime soon, i'll probably end up going with blues, but it's cool to see what's favored among the community
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No problem! 
As far as which cherry blue keyboard with a minimal rating of "decent" quality, you have a lot of options.
Best price:
Razer BlackWidow. Decent quality. Awkward layout that takes more acclimation time. Still used by many. 70 USD, cheaper with promotions. Available from pretty much any online vendor.
Best quality:
Filco or Leopold. Both companies have a reputation of making top-of-the-line boards. No frills, just a keyboard that works and works well. Filcos cost 120USD (PCHome) to 150USD (Amazon/Keyboardco) shipped. Leopolds will be stocked by EliteKeyboards sometime this month, but that date has been constantly pushed back. Estimated to cost 140USD shipped.
Best value:
Rosewill RK-9000. Comparable quality to the Filco board, has a similar controller. 100USD, with promotions dropping the price to as low as 80USD if you're lucky. Out of stock at Newegg and Chiefvalue for now.
When the DasKeyboard promotion comes around, that will be another good option too. Their keyboards are priced around 120USD right now, but the promotion should knock it down to 100USD or so. If you're a student and in the United States, Das gives a discount for that as well as free shipping.
Hope this helps!
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Filco Filco
Cherry's F123456789 is too annoy
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Since I'm considering purchasing a mechanical keyboard, I guess I'll ask in this thread.
1. Which key can be spammed faster? I play osu where being able to hit a key over and over again is a useful skill. I assume the browns can be hit faster because of the lower activation force?
2. Is the blue really better for typing? If so, how much better? I don't really mind the noise much. I just worry that the Browns might be too light for me to type as well on. Is this concern valid?
3. What is the approximate activation force for a typical laptop keyboard? I use a lenovo laptop keyboard which I expect has a substantially lower activation force than most standard keyboards. I would like to get an idea of how much force I am using now before I consider mechanical keyboards.
Thanks!
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Blackwidow sounds decent to me haha
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I think the blue ones would drive myself and everybody around me crazy... Not sure tho since I never heard those "live"...
I'm finde with the browns and their sound is satisfying enough so far 
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Aren't blues bad for RTS? The double tapping isn't friendly.
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On March 02 2011 08:33 lazydino wrote:
Aren't blues bad for RTS? The double tapping isn't friendly.
It's all personal preference, Boxer uses blues, and I think Jinro may as well and possibly Tester.
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On March 02 2011 08:14 triangle wrote:
Since I'm considering purchasing a mechanical keyboard, I guess I'll ask in this thread.
1. Which key can be spammed faster? I play osu where being able to hit a key over and over again is a useful skill. I assume the browns can be hit faster because of the lower activation force?
2. Is the blue really better for typing? If so, how much better? I don't really mind the noise much. I just worry that the Browns might be too light for me to type as well on. Is this concern valid?
3. What is the approximate activation force for a typical laptop keyboard? I use a lenovo laptop keyboard which I expect has a substantially lower activation force than most standard keyboards. I would like to get an idea of how much force I am using now before I consider mechanical keyboards.
Thanks!
1. Of all the keys listed in the poll, the browns would be the fastest. Quickest actuation, less travel, and doesn't have the double tap issue that some blue keyboards do.
2. Once again, it's personal preference. The click of the blues help people get into a rhythm while typing. With 5g of difference between the browns and blues, the difference between the two is mainly in the sound of the key when pressed.
3. Laptop keyboard actuation can be guesstimated by using nickels. Just stack them on top of a key (preferably in the middle of the keyboard) until you can get it to register. I tried it on one of my old XPS laptops that has a scissor switch and it registered at 15 nickels, or around 75g. I pretty much guarantee that a blue or brown switch keyboard will have a actuation point than that of a scissor-switched keyboard.
Hope this helps!
On March 02 2011 08:34 echO [W] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 08:33 lazydino wrote:
Aren't blues bad for RTS? The double tapping isn't friendly. It's all personal preference, Boxer uses blues, and I think Jinro may as well and possibly Tester.
BoxeR was last seen using a Filco with cherry blues; you can tell it's blue from the green LEDs as well as the pitch the keyboard makes when watching BoxeR's Wings. Jinro confirmed he's using a BlackWidow; you can also see it in the GSL VODs.
Tester's using a cherry brown board as speculated by the fine folks at Geekhack. I haven't seen what board he's been using as of late but if he hasn't switched to a SkyDigital board (TSL's sponsors) then I'd assume he still has a cherry brown keyboard.
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My ducky dk 9008 has browns. Couldnt be happier.
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I use a tenkeyless Filco with browns.
I had an iOne Scorpius M10 before, but the blues annoyed my wife... The build quality was actually really solid, and I loved typing on it just as much as my Filco. If I could have got that same keyboard with browns for the same price, I would have.
The poll is missing topre switches and ALPS switches tho.
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On March 02 2011 09:13 ChThoniC wrote:
The poll is missing topre switches and ALPS switches tho.
Also buckling springs.
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On March 02 2011 09:13 ChThoniC wrote:
The poll is missing topre switches and ALPS switches tho.
On March 02 2011 09:19 Aim Here wrote:
Also buckling springs.
Unless you're a purist, programmer, or someone with lots of money to spare, topre switches are generally unnecessary for the common consumer and too expensive for the poll at hand. Not to take away from the fact that from what I've read they are amazing keyboards, the best ones out there.
ALPS switches are also varied, they can vary with linear/nonlinear, clicky/nonclicky just like a cherry MX switch would. But seeing as how the trend has moved away from ALPS and toward cherry keys, I don't think ALPS should be an option for this poll.
Buckling spring keyboards have been around for quite some time, but seeing as how they are comparable to a cherry black actuation force in feel and cherry blues in sound I'm not sure how they would fare in an RTS setting over that of lighter switches. Not saying that they can't be used, but would they be ideal?
Just my opinion.
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I'm really surprised by how many people like blues, I have them myself and I love the sound :D
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I only tested blacks and browns, and I like the browns a lot more.
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On March 02 2011 08:40 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 08:14 triangle wrote:
Since I'm considering purchasing a mechanical keyboard, I guess I'll ask in this thread.
1. Which key can be spammed faster? I play osu where being able to hit a key over and over again is a useful skill. I assume the browns can be hit faster because of the lower activation force?
2. Is the blue really better for typing? If so, how much better? I don't really mind the noise much. I just worry that the Browns might be too light for me to type as well on. Is this concern valid?
3. What is the approximate activation force for a typical laptop keyboard? I use a lenovo laptop keyboard which I expect has a substantially lower activation force than most standard keyboards. I would like to get an idea of how much force I am using now before I consider mechanical keyboards.
Thanks! 1. Of all the keys listed in the poll, the browns would be the fastest. Quickest actuation, less travel, and doesn't have the double tap issue that some blue keyboards do. 2. Once again, it's personal preference. The click of the blues help people get into a rhythm while typing. With 5g of difference between the browns and blues, the difference between the two is mainly in the sound of the key when pressed. 3. Laptop keyboard actuation can be guesstimated by using nickels. Just stack them on top of a key (preferably in the middle of the keyboard) until you can get it to register. I tried it on one of my old XPS laptops that has a scissor switch and it registered at 15 nickels, or around 75g. I pretty much guarantee that a blue or brown switch keyboard will have a actuation point than that of a scissor-switched keyboard. Hope this helps! Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 08:34 echO [W] wrote:On March 02 2011 08:33 lazydino wrote:
Aren't blues bad for RTS? The double tapping isn't friendly. It's all personal preference, Boxer uses blues, and I think Jinro may as well and possibly Tester. BoxeR was last seen using a Filco with cherry blues; you can tell it's blue from the green LEDs as well as the pitch the keyboard makes when watching BoxeR's Wings. Jinro confirmed he's using a BlackWidow; you can also see it in the GSL VODs. Tester's using a cherry brown board as speculated by the fine folks at Geekhack. I haven't seen what board he's been using as of late but if he hasn't switched to a SkyDigital board (TSL's sponsors) then I'd assume he still has a cherry brown keyboard.
Awesome, thanks for your help. I tested my laptop and it requires 70g to register.
What is the "double tap" issue that you mentioned some blues having?
The reason I was guessing that blues would be better for typing is that looking at force diagrams it seems that the blues have a much larger tactile bump, which I thought might help.
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Im using Blues and i love them ♥
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topres, superb for typing, although I also love cherry browns.
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I got the blackwidow few days ago, i hate it, ive tried blacks, ive hated it, are browns much different from blues?
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On March 02 2011 09:21 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 09:13 ChThoniC wrote:
The poll is missing topre switches and ALPS switches tho. Unless you're a purist, programmer, or someone with lots of money to spare, topre switches are generally unnecessary for the common consumer and too expensive for the poll at hand. Not to take away from the fact that from what I've read they are amazing keyboards, the best ones out there. ALPS switches are also varied, they can vary with linear/nonlinear, clicky/nonclicky just like a cherry MX switch would. But seeing as how the trend has moved away from ALPS and toward cherry keys, I don't think ALPS should be an option for this poll. Buckling spring keyboards have been around for quite some time, but seeing as how they are comparable to a cherry black actuation force in feel and cherry blues in sound I'm not sure how they would fare in an RTS setting over that of lighter switches. Not saying that they can't be used, but would they be ideal? Just my opinion.
It's a poll, why wouldn't you have the option (especially since ALPS switches and topre are far more available than Cherry clears, for example).
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On March 02 2011 09:13 ChThoniC wrote:
Buckling spring keyboards have been around for quite some time, but seeing as how they are comparable to a cherry black actuation force in feel and cherry blues in sound I'm not sure how they would fare in an RTS setting over that of lighter switches. Not saying that they can't be used, but would they be ideal?
Just my opinion.
They're fine , you guys are being too pedantic.
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On March 02 2011 10:05 triangle wrote:
Awesome, thanks for your help. I tested my laptop and it requires 70g to register.
What is the "double tap" issue that you mentioned some blues having?
The reason I was guessing that blues would be better for typing is that looking at force diagrams it seems that the blues have a much larger tactile bump, which I thought might help.
You're welcome! It seems that the majority of rubber dome/membrane keyboards have that actuation point of 65-75g or so. When you think about the extra force, it's nice to know that you don't have to be mashing on your keys as hard if you're trying to type an essay or spamming in SC2.
Double tap issue is the concern people have when trying to press a key twice in rapid succession on blue-switched keyboards; you need to let the key return all the way up past the point of actuation before you're able to press the key again and have it successfully register.
I'll just say in short that it's nitpicky and doesn't apply to all keyboards and/or users. One can train him or herself to avoid that problem through repetition.
On March 02 2011 10:30 ChThoniC wrote:
It's a poll, why wouldn't you have the option (especially since ALPS switches and topre are far more available than Cherry clears, for example).
Then perhaps we should ask OP to add them to the poll. Topre may get a few votes, but I doubt we'll see ALPS or BS get much love. Once again, just my opinion.
On March 02 2011 11:33 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
They're fine , you guys are being too pedantic.
Thank you for the feedback; I haven't tried a BS keyboard, so I wasn't sure how it would fare.
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I'm not adding them to the poll, i'm just wondering about the cherry mx keys lol
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Browns.
Blue just has more of a click when they actuate and take a LITTLE bit more force.
Brown is doesnt have a distinct click but they are still quite loud to type on.
Brown and blue are both very nice to game and type on. Both have an equal vote for me. I would prefer browns though (:
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I have an ALPS keyboard. I love it, the only issue is that it's about 15 years old (at least) and kinda dirty... 
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i used blacks and they tired my hands, then i got blues and they are good
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Brown/Clears for gaming.
Blues for typing.
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Topre? ALPS ?
I like my 55g topres more than browns and alps.
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On March 02 2011 12:03 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 10:05 triangle wrote:
Awesome, thanks for your help. I tested my laptop and it requires 70g to register.
What is the "double tap" issue that you mentioned some blues having?
The reason I was guessing that blues would be better for typing is that looking at force diagrams it seems that the blues have a much larger tactile bump, which I thought might help. You're welcome! It seems that the majority of rubber dome/membrane keyboards have that actuation point of 65-75g or so. When you think about the extra force, it's nice to know that you don't have to be mashing on your keys as hard if you're trying to type an essay or spamming in SC2. Double tap issue is the concern people have when trying to press a key twice in rapid succession on blue-switched keyboards; you need to let the key return all the way up past the point of actuation before you're able to press the key again and have it successfully register. I'll just say in short that it's nitpicky and doesn't apply to all keyboards and/or users. One can train him or herself to avoid that problem through repetition.
Um, I am definitely going to be tapping very fast on this keyboard.
I really need to find a blackwidow somewhere to try this, but nobody seems to be selling one in my area...
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On March 02 2011 10:17 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
I got the blackwidow few days ago, i hate it, ive tried blacks, ive hated it, are browns much different from blues? Specify what you "hate" about it and then maybe we could help you.
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On March 02 2011 10:17 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
I got the blackwidow few days ago, i hate it, ive tried blacks, ive hated it, are browns much different from blues?
Browns are essentially quieter blues.
It sounds like you just hate keyboards
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What kind of switches does the SteelSeries 6gv2 use? I like them a lot, but I haven't tried typing on any other mechanical keyboard.
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I know the 7G uses blacks, so i'm assuming the 6gv2 does as well.
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On March 03 2011 05:47 State wrote:
What kind of switches does the SteelSeries 6gv2 use? I like them a lot, but I haven't tried typing on any other mechanical keyboard.
They use cherry blacks.
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Thanks! I thought the 6gv2 used blacks, but wasn't sure.
Why is it that so many people prefer brown and blue switches over blacks? Are they better than blacks for RTS gaming, or are they just more popular?
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On March 03 2011 06:06 State wrote:
Thanks! I thought the 6gv2 used blacks, but wasn't sure.
Why is it that so many people prefer brown and blue switches over blacks? Are they better than blacks for RTS gaming, or are they just more popular?
Blacks don't give tactile feedback when the key is registered, but browns and blues do. Blues and browns are generally regarded as better for typing and non-FPS gaming. Some would argue they're better than blacks for even FPS gaming... There are plenty of people who are happy with blacks, but blue/brown/clear (the tactile switches) are pretty much objectively better for typing and RTS.
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i have a 6gv2 and i wish it had brown/blues, and the damn shit + \ key sucks.
the blacks wear me out
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Blue, although the clickyness for feedback sometimes is less practical when people are around in which case browns would be preferable.
I'd like to try the feel of reds though.
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Cherry Blue or Buckling Springs (Clicky, tactile)
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I had the Steelseries 6GV2 and a Das Keyboard Professional S...
The blacks on the 6G honestly gave me carpal tunnel. I couldn't play longer than like an hour without needed to rest my fingers. On the other hand, the blues have a much nicer activation feel. The blacks are supposedly the smoothest and easiest to press; however, with the design of the 6g, it seemed completely opposite.
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You guys still looking for a mechanical keyboard are going to love seeing this:
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold
Just wait until you see the price point for these magnificent boards. There are no other reasonable options after seeing these prices.
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I used IBM Model M with buckling springs and a DasKeyboard with Cherry MX blues so far.
I can just tell you that it is absolutly fine to play RTS with blue switches... but still i am thinking about giving browns a try soon ... maybe gonna buy a Filco Majestouch :D
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On March 03 2011 05:27 ecdN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2011 10:17 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
I got the blackwidow few days ago, i hate it, ive tried blacks, ive hated it, are browns much different from blues? Specify what you "hate" about it and then maybe we could help you.
Exactly...
What exactly do you hate about them? Have you even given them a week to get used to it?
They are key switches. Its not magic that will make you type fast or give you higher APM.
I think you expect to much out of them...
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because blue's the easiest to get, I do like to try on Black and Red
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I think i might just hate the blackwidow because of the macro keys on the side? it messes up my typing like crap, like im a typer 127wpm, on that keyboard its gonna be like 50-60. And it seems to me that the keys are far apart as crap and the keys are more elevated on the top on the blackwidow. Since i am usually on a laptop keyboard that the keys are really close together and its all the same elevation. I heard that the leopold keyboard just came out, will that be good? I liked the key placements on the 6gv2 because i never got any typing errors, it just feels wierd to me because there is no tactile.
Should I give the leopold keyboard a go? Its only $100 on elitekeyboards for pre order atm
Also do they accept non-verified paypals but with a spending limit on it?
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On March 04 2011 11:44 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
I think i might just hate the blackwidow because of the macro keys on the side? it messes up my typing like crap, like im a typer 127wpm, on that keyboard its gonna be like 50-60. And it seems to me that the keys are far apart as crap and the keys are more elevated on the top on the blackwidow. Since i am usually on a laptop keyboard that the keys are really close together and its all the same elevation. I heard that the leopold keyboard just came out, will that be good? I liked the key placements on the 6gv2 because i never got any typing errors, it just feels wierd to me because there is no tactile.
Should I give the leopold keyboard a go? Its only $100 on elitekeyboards for pre order atm
Also do they accept non-verified paypals but with a spending limit on it?
Leopolds and Filcos are quite similar. Different keycaps, detachable USB cable, but overall they're pretty much the same high quality keyboard.
They feature a standard US ANSI layout, so no worries about having to deal with the misplaced "\" key or a large enter key.
Go with a Leopold once it comes out, it'll be the best value keyboard (taking over that of the Rosewill RK-9000) for your dollar.
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On March 04 2011 11:49 sawedust wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 11:44 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
I think i might just hate the blackwidow because of the macro keys on the side? it messes up my typing like crap, like im a typer 127wpm, on that keyboard its gonna be like 50-60. And it seems to me that the keys are far apart as crap and the keys are more elevated on the top on the blackwidow. Since i am usually on a laptop keyboard that the keys are really close together and its all the same elevation. I heard that the leopold keyboard just came out, will that be good? I liked the key placements on the 6gv2 because i never got any typing errors, it just feels wierd to me because there is no tactile.
Should I give the leopold keyboard a go? Its only $100 on elitekeyboards for pre order atm
Also do they accept non-verified paypals but with a spending limit on it? Leopolds and Filcos are quite similar. Different keycaps, detachable USB cable, but overall they're pretty much the same high quality keyboard. They feature a standard US ANSI layout, so no worries about having to deal with the misplaced "\" key or a large enter key. Go with a Leopold once it comes out, it'll be the best value keyboard (taking over that of the Rosewill RK-9000) for your dollar.
Thanks alot dude for response, you know if they take unverified paypal but with a sending limit?
*EDIT* is there any difference with keycaps with letters and keycaps with no letters? besides the lettering and knowing what key it is
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I currently use blue switches, but I think that brown switches would feel really nice as well.
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On March 04 2011 11:54 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
Thanks alot dude for response, you know if they take unverified paypal but with a sending limit?
*EDIT* is there any difference with keycaps with letters and keycaps with no letters? besides the lettering and knowing what key it is
Not sure about the unverified PayPal. Haven't dealt with EK before so I don't know what their take is on such transactions.
Difference between keycaps with and without prints are usually negligible. It's just your personal preference.
While I am a touch typist, I occasionally have to look down at the keyboard for symbols or when playing Starcraft to make sure I have my fingers set in the proper place. For those reasons alone I decided to get the printed keycaps.
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you miss cherry ML mechanical switch. the BEST holy shit this is the stuff.
http://www.cherry.de/english/switches_controls/Keymodules.htm
oh and i dont get why everyone buys filco, DAS, Leopold, razor, Steelseries 100 bucks fancy "gamer" keybords with cherry mechanical switches. you can get the original cherry industrial standard rocksolid mechanical for like 20. and the variety they sell is huuuuuge.
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i dont really have any experience with anything else but blues, i have a blackwidow wich has blues and love the feel and the sound of it <3
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whats dif between ml and mx
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On March 04 2011 13:08 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
whats dif between ml and mx
ml is the only other mechanical design by cherry besides mx you find. every data is at the link already posted
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I have the blackwidow and it is the best gaming purchase I have ever made.
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I have a Rosewill mech keyboard with cherry blue switches and they feel AWESOME. Some people hate the noisy buttons, but I love the sound of it. I've read that cherry brown are the same as the blue minus the noise. I def need to try out the brown when I get the chance to. I would say get brown because people in the house will get annoyed by the noisiness of the blue switches lol.
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I bought a steelseries 6gv2, and immediately i wasn't sure if i'd made a totally educated purchase. After i got it i started learning about mechanical switch types and i thought that maybe i made a mistake. The black switches feel very uncomfortable to me. I need to find a way to test blue and brown switches to see which one i like best before i end up dropping another $100 on a keyboard. T_T
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On March 04 2011 13:08 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
whats dif between ml and mx
They are different switches.
They are used on the art lebdev keyboard. They are not very popular.
If you don't like black, browns and blues then you wouldnt be happy with anything.
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I'd go with blues, loud but awesome
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On March 04 2011 22:47 Marcus420 wrote:They are different switches. They are used on the art lebdev keyboard. They are not very popular. If you don't like black, browns and blues then you wouldnt be happy with anything.
theres also red and clear or topre lol
not sure why but red is getting popular again...
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so would it really matter if i get either a leopold or filco
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I prefer cherry brown keyswitches, I recently switched from the 6g to the zowie celeritas and it just feels so amazing, but the blacks were also much much more enjoyable than a standard membrane keyboard and still would recommend them for RTS over a membrane keyboard.
if anyone wants to a 6g cheap pm yo
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On March 06 2011 13:52 krazymunky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2011 22:47 Marcus420 wrote:
If you don't like black, browns and blues then you wouldnt be happy with anything. theres also red and clear or topre lol not sure why but red is getting popular again...
Reds are popular because they're supposedly the best switch for gaming (FPS). Low activation force, but linear. Less stressful on the fingers for FPS type games. Plus that KBC Poker keyboard that's been going around is pretty sexy. Much more so than the Noppoo Mini; that was soooo last season.
Though for something like an RTS in SC2, I'd still stick with something that's tactile. Either a blue or brown will work fine. Tenkeyless or 104 is up to the user and whether or not he/she needs the desk space and/or the keypad.
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I am not 100% satisfied with my browns.
I think I like blues better, but have not had the chance to use blues much.
Browns have very little actual tactile feel in my opinion, and because if this, I am bottoming out on all my key presses anyway, which I think slows down typing, but certainly makes quite a bit of noise also!
I'm sort of curious how a black would be, I'm thinking I might possibly even like them more than brown, just because the higher (and linear/predictable) key press resistance might prevent me from bottoming out.
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On March 06 2011 17:34 Xapti wrote:
I am not 100% satisfied with my browns.
I think I like blues better, but have not had the chance to use blues much.
Browns have very little actual tactile feel in my opinion, and because if this, I am bottoming out on all my key presses anyway, which I think slows down typing, but certainly makes quite a bit of noise also!
I'm sort of curious how a black would be, I'm thinking I might possibly even like them more than brown, just because the higher (and linear/predictable) key press resistance might prevent me from bottoming out.
Don't try to type fast, try to press on the keys lightly until you can feel the bump. It's very light, but it's noticeable and it's definitely there. After a while you'll get used to not bottoming out the keys and can resume typing at a very fast pace. Keep in mind that it only takes 2mm in pressing down a key for it to register.
Then again if you have bear hands like iNcontrol does, then blacks would probably be a better fit for you.
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cherry G85-231000 with cherry ml mechanical switches.
basically it is like a laptop with the size of a normal keyboard. super flat, silent, precise. the switch is flat, has a low but high enough resistance to rest your hands on, the moment you press and it moves, the stroke is registered, backbouncing time is super fast. or in short, you need 12000 apm on one key to overcome the technical barrier.
it is resistant to fluids and due to its flat build super ergonomic. if you have high apm and dont want to get tired, this is it. the only backlash to the mx switches is the durability of the tactical feel click is "just" 20 000 000 strokes compared to 50 000 000 of mx blues.
^^
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What type of switches is the best for games like dance dance revolution, stepmania.
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Currently using Filco with browns. I tried blues for a while, but I didn't find the difference between them and the browns I have to be too pronounced in terms of comfort/typing speed, yet they were SO. FRICKEN.LOUD.
That's great and all, but when I can't even send an email without waking up one of my housemates, that's where the "lol, clicky keyboard, so leet" fun stops. Returned blue, bought brown, never looked back. Perhaps the clicks help some people type, but honestly - who even works without music on?
These are just 'bumpy' enough to be able to comfortably type without bottoming out, and when you learn how to do that, this board is probably more silent than the rubber domes I had before.
It's also *very* comfortable, still having that little extra resistance just before the switch activates.
I wouldn't say it helped my Starcraft game in the slightest, but it's a damn comfortable board and that's worth the money.
edit: Added advantage. I can now use mumble/ventrilo while gaming and people will actually understand what I'm saying. Not quite possible when I used blues;)
On August 11 2011 07:42 Bloody wrote:
What type of switches is the best for games like dance dance revolution, stepmania.
Probably not mech. I'd go for note-book style flat keys, since they usually have less travel distance. The additional travel of ful-size keyboards can have a detrimental effect on your speed.
(Yes, I am aware that you don't need to press all the way down, but during an intense game of stepmania - you will.)
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