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Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
January 03 2011 23:42 GMT
#81
Out of curiosity, have the built in DRM fear rumors been substantiated at all? Supposedly theres remote PC disabling along with some sort of media DRM requested by Hollywood. The vast majority of articles I've read on it are against the chips with a blanket straw man argument of "DRM is bad", without going in depth about what the restrictions actually are. Has anyone seem a full list or a good description of exactly how restrictive the DRM is?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123657
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 02:28:51
January 04 2011 00:37 GMT
#82
On January 04 2011 05:25 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 20:01 Rouel wrote:
In tech, it's about the others making a mistake and with a brand new architecture, this was AMDs chance to have Intel stumble- just as they did with Pentium4.
(as did AMD by pissing off their best design team that kicked Intels ass with the K8 and x64)
Reading a couple of the reviews, Intel looks to keep on delivering with about the regular expected improvement. Not good, not bad.
Same story as always in other words- if you have the last generation or two no need to jump on the Sandy Bridge.

If you rate intel's releases are not good or bad just meh then amd must be shit, in terms of performance, efficiency, features and cost.


Beyond cost, AMD's releases have been pretty...awful. They're adequate but just so far behind in performance that they don't really have a true high end consumer chip if you know what I mean. They're also awful for certain other things, like high end video game emulation, since they don't really support SSE4.2 (and other earlier instruction sets fully if I'm not mistaken) which helps performance greatly.

He's not incorrect though, unless you really need the processing power (and it does offer a lot) there isn't really any need to jump to Sandy Bridge immediately since basic programs and games are still run more than fine by last generation's hardware. Considering the amount of annoying issues we are bound to have with motherboards during launch (hi Foxconn bracket, Gigabyte BIOS issues, god awful Marvell SATA3 drivers, and non-NEC USB3 drivers), I'd probably wait a little while for stuff to calm down a bit before buying if I didn't need to upgrade immediately.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
January 04 2011 02:36 GMT
#83
Really Gigabyte BIOS issues? When I think of BIOS issues, the first thing that comes to mind is Asus, not Gigabyte. I've had two Asus mobos (2000 and 2003), but since then I have moved on.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
January 04 2011 20:18 GMT
#84
On January 04 2011 08:42 Volshok wrote:
Out of curiosity, have the built in DRM fear rumors been substantiated at all? Supposedly theres remote PC disabling along with some sort of media DRM requested by Hollywood. The vast majority of articles I've read on it are against the chips with a blanket straw man argument of "DRM is bad", without going in depth about what the restrictions actually are. Has anyone seem a full list or a good description of exactly how restrictive the DRM is?


No, it's nothing new. I assume what the articles are talking about (since they're all shit articles that tell you nothing and probably came from The Inq) is PAVP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavp ). Which is basically closely related to HDCP or TXT or something which has been around forever. Additionally, it's disabled on P67 systems which is what most enthusiasts will probably run (i.e., the people who would probably give a shit/know what PAVP means). Essentially it's nothing new and tabloid journalism with articles that tell you nothing decided was a slow news day and this was a good thing to scare people with.

The remote kill switch needs to be activated by the user as far as I know, and it kills the processor in case of theft. Unless you run around in a tin foil hat, you don't need to worry about someone doing this to the computer you bought. However, I don't really know Intel's logic behind this as the thief would probably just sell the computer if it stopped working or if he was after your data just take out the hard drive.

I don't particularly agree with either of these things, but they're not anything new. It's not going to make it so if you steal a film, some Hollywood goon shows up on your door. It's not going to make it so some totalitarian force can kill all your processors because they feel like it. A new AV protection scheme in a processor is nothing new and they claim the kill switch was requested by some consumers (although I still do not see its purpose) so they do, at least, have reasons for this.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 15:02:15
January 04 2011 22:08 GMT
#85
Launch prices at Microcenter:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/906574-microcenter-sandy-bridge-launch-prices-b.html

Core i5 2400 $149.99
Core i5 2500K $179.99
Core i7 2600 $249.99
Core i7 2600k $279.99

*prices confirmed.
With no power comes no responsibility?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 04 2011 22:12 GMT
#86
wow %#*%@% microcenter. $40 cheaper than everywhere else!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 04 2011 22:24 GMT
#87
2500k and 2600k yummy esp the 2600k that thing shits out performance like it's not even trying esp when you can push it past 4Ghz pretty easy and hit 5Ghz if you get very lucky.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
January 04 2011 22:36 GMT
#88
So I get that the H67 will allow for the integrated graphics to work while while P67 will not. I have also seen that the P67 has better overclocking capabilities. Is there any more information on this? Can the H67 overclock at all? I was hoping to skip on a video card for a month or two to keep my budget lower but not if it results in a motherboard that can't overclock my CPU.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 04 2011 22:39 GMT
#89
On January 05 2011 07:36 holynorth wrote:
So I get that the H67 will allow for the integrated graphics to work while while P67 will not. I have also seen that the P67 has better overclocking capabilities. Is there any more information on this? Can the H67 overclock at all? I was hoping to skip on a video card for a month or two to keep my budget lower but not if it results in a motherboard that can't overclock my CPU.


H67 can not overclock at all (even if you have a K chip, it's not possible).
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 22:43:30
January 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#90
On January 05 2011 07:36 holynorth wrote:
So I get that the H67 will allow for the integrated graphics to work while while P67 will not. I have also seen that the P67 has better overclocking capabilities. Is there any more information on this? Can the H67 overclock at all? I was hoping to skip on a video card for a month or two to keep my budget lower but not if it results in a motherboard that can't overclock my CPU.


H67 supports overclocking for memory/graphics. You cannot overclock the processor. Additionally, you need to get something from the K series Sandy Bridge for overclocking. You need a P67 chipset and a processor from the K-series for any meaningful overclocking.
LuNaLiSK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Greece11 Posts
January 05 2011 08:20 GMT
#91
Bulldozer ftw

User was warned for this post
Life Is a Bitch And Then You Die
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 05 2011 08:39 GMT
#92
On January 05 2011 17:20 LuNaLiSK wrote:
Bulldozer ftw


Two word posts... awesome.

Anyways keeping on topic: I've been reading a lot of posts that people are easily getting 5+ GHz on their 2500ks and 2600ks on air. The most shocking thing though I thought was the fact that Anandtech got the new Sandy Bridge processors to 4.4 GHz off the STOCK COOLER. It's not the pos stock cooler like on the i5 760 it's actually a better attempt of a overclocking CPU fan.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 08:42:10
January 05 2011 08:40 GMT
#93
On January 05 2011 17:20 LuNaLiSK wrote:
Bulldozer ftw

Please don't post like this ever again...
In the words of Kyle Bennett from HardOPC
4. He trolled my review post with a fucking stupid picture of a bulldozer......yeah, keep on dreaming fanboy. I have more faith in the world ending in 2012 than I do AMD pulling off an Intel killer.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-07 15:18:02
January 05 2011 15:01 GMT
#94
On January 05 2011 07:08 mav451 wrote:
Launch prices at Microcenter:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/906574-microcenter-sandy-bridge-launch-prices-b.html

Core i5 2400 $149.99
Core i5 2500K $179.99
Core i7 2600 $249.99
Core i7 2600k $279.99



Launch prices are now confirmed.
http://l2.microcentermail.com/C2L/er.aspx?k=73C65kiUc-YbfohMjYYZe9jHZYf-nVciT7nCzYTof_-EJLMD7L1p4w$$

*MC moved the splash page - 2011/01/07
With no power comes no responsibility?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 05 2011 17:53 GMT
#95
On January 06 2011 00:01 mav451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 07:08 mav451 wrote:
Launch prices at Microcenter:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/906574-microcenter-sandy-bridge-launch-prices-b.html

Core i5 2400 $149.99
Core i5 2500K $179.99
Core i7 2600 $249.99
Core i7 2600k $279.99



Launch prices are now confirmed.
http://www.microcenter.com/storefronts/powerspec/index.html


lol at $369 MSRP for 2600k. anandtech has $317 for unit price in their review. isnt there some law against marking up the regular price to advertise a higher discount price? :p
starleague forever
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
January 05 2011 18:56 GMT
#96
Holy. Fuckin. Shit. For $180 you can get a 4.4 Ghz quad. Time to upgrade from my E6750, been holding my 5870 down for too long.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 19:27:29
January 05 2011 19:24 GMT
#97
On January 06 2011 02:53 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 00:01 mav451 wrote:
On January 05 2011 07:08 mav451 wrote:
Launch prices at Microcenter:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/906574-microcenter-sandy-bridge-launch-prices-b.html

Core i5 2400 $149.99
Core i5 2500K $179.99
Core i7 2600 $249.99
Core i7 2600k $279.99



Launch prices are now confirmed.
http://www.microcenter.com/storefronts/powerspec/index.html


lol at $369 MSRP for 2600k. anandtech has $317 for unit price in their review. isnt there some law against marking up the regular price to advertise a higher discount price? :p

considering that these aren't suppose to sell until later i'd trust the reviews MSRP until all the shops list it.
http://hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI5MzgzOTUyOENDWExYbUthdEpfMV8zMF9sLmpwZw==
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-10.html
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
January 05 2011 19:29 GMT
#98
good god MC is so sexy
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2011 19:46 GMT
#99
On January 06 2011 04:24 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 02:53 a176 wrote:
On January 06 2011 00:01 mav451 wrote:
On January 05 2011 07:08 mav451 wrote:
Launch prices at Microcenter:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/906574-microcenter-sandy-bridge-launch-prices-b.html

Core i5 2400 $149.99
Core i5 2500K $179.99
Core i7 2600 $249.99
Core i7 2600k $279.99



Launch prices are now confirmed.
http://www.microcenter.com/storefronts/powerspec/index.html


lol at $369 MSRP for 2600k. anandtech has $317 for unit price in their review. isnt there some law against marking up the regular price to advertise a higher discount price? :p

considering that these aren't suppose to sell until later i'd trust the reviews MSRP until all the shops list it.
http://hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI5MzgzOTUyOENDWExYbUthdEpfMV8zMF9sLmpwZw==
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-10.html


Those are the preview prices of their online prices for January 9th. You can't purchase them now =\ We already know that the core i7 2600k will go for $320 as Frys and Canada Computer have been selling them for quite a while.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 05 2011 19:49 GMT
#100
That's typical price gouging, one or two weeks after release it usually falls back down to msrp.
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