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holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
January 03 2011 07:18 GMT
#61
So apparently the integrated graphics (HD 3000) can run SC on low pretty easy. Would anyone recommend to anyone going after a 400-600 build to skip a graphics card for a month or two and pick up the i5 2500k over the i3?
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:38:22
January 03 2011 07:19 GMT
#62
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
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http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
January 03 2011 07:37 GMT
#63
Really impressive performance in games. It is amazing how it gets more fps when you could think that it was limited by the GPU or something other than the CPU.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
January 03 2011 08:04 GMT
#64
The IPC increase is fairly subjective however, when we talk quad-cores. So far, I believe only TR is showing enough to compare the Lynnfields directly to the SBs at equal clock rates.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

The i7 875 is 2.93Ghz, as is the i3 2100.
The i7 970 is 3.2Ghz while the i5 2400 is 3.1Ghz and the i5 2500K 3.3Ghz.

All things considered, we are not looking at much of an IPC increase at all for SC2. We expected this, and now it's confirmed.

However, remember that SB's OC far easier than the Lynnfields. Considering we've seen air OCs from 4.5Ghz and up, even if the IPC increase isn't much, maybe 10% depending on application, the increased headroom makes the K-processors very compelling. Obviously the only one I would recommend is the $216, as it is the cheapest.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 03 2011 09:11 GMT
#65
There's really no reason to go higher than a i5 2500k if all you are going to do is play Starcraft 2.

i5 2500k obviously overclocked + 2 GTX 460 SLI + SSD to load the maps = BALLIN!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
AcOrP
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:12:51
January 03 2011 10:12 GMT
#66
I am more interested in the performance SB I hope for 8 core with 12-24GB ram, I should wait as we saw with i7 950 price dropped from 600$ to 300$. I recently ordered SSD 160GB intel drive still waitin for the delivery my rig is currently running e5200 @ 3,75GHz and it's slow as hell. But I hate to wait :S you wait for release then wait for price drop then the new technology come and the wait is huge...
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
January 03 2011 10:17 GMT
#67
My i5-750/GTX460 setup should be good for another 3 years, especially when I eventually buy a better cooler and learn how to overclock the CPU. I kinda wish I waited though.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
January 03 2011 10:32 GMT
#68
Upgrading my q6600 would be a good upgrade, but there isn't anything I want to play that requires more power so I'll be waiting. Probably won't be any reason to upgrade until the next generation of consoles rolls out.
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Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
January 03 2011 10:37 GMT
#69
On January 03 2011 17:04 mav451 wrote:
The IPC increase is fairly subjective however, when we talk quad-cores. So far, I believe only TR is showing enough to compare the Lynnfields directly to the SBs at equal clock rates.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

Some very nice improvements on the min frames on a realistic test. Great to see.
FrozenSolid
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 12:27:45
January 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#70
The i7 950 dropped in price because there wasn't much difference between the i7 920 and the 950, and because it's easy to overclock a 920 to the 950s speeds. The two chips are pretty much mechanically the same, and the price drop brought them much closer together financially as well.

You shouldn't wait for the enthusiast level products in hopes of future proofing a system, that's not what those products are designed for. I don't think we're going to get a chip that offers better value than the i5 2500k until Ivy, so that's what I'd recommend going for if you're looking for an upgrade. If you need hyperthreading for whatever reason, go with the i7 2600k, not with the enthusiast level i7s. Chances are you won't need the triple/quad channel ram from socket LGA 2011 mobos. Just like now with the Nehalem chips and the i5/7 2x00 series, the enthusiast level Sandy-Bridge chips will be outperformed by Ivy-Bridge's sweet spot, and the high level stuff will cost you pretty much the same as two generations of value setups.
Upgrading from LGA 1156 or 1366 is not recommended. I wouldn't consider upgrading from the Core2Quad Q6600 or Q9550 to SB either, but the Core2Duo lineup is outdated enough for me to recommend an upgrade. The i5 2500k will provide an easily noticable difference there. As for camp AMD, socket AM2/AM2+ processors in general are starting to age (with a few exceptions), and I wouldn't fault anyone for considering an upgrade.

Until we see results from Bulldozer, we can conclude that the i5 2500k will be the chip to get for any new sweet-spot build while the i3 2100 will battle with AMD's Athlon II x4 and Phenom II x4 series for budget gaming. I do expect a price drop for Phenom II x4s before Bulldozer ships.
Sometimes it's better to be good than it is to be lucky and sometimes it's better to be lucky than it is to be good.
Rouel
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden138 Posts
January 03 2011 11:01 GMT
#71
In tech, it's about the others making a mistake and with a brand new architecture, this was AMDs chance to have Intel stumble- just as they did with Pentium4.
(as did AMD by pissing off their best design team that kicked Intels ass with the K8 and x64)
Reading a couple of the reviews, Intel looks to keep on delivering with about the regular expected improvement. Not good, not bad.
Same story as always in other words- if you have the last generation or two no need to jump on the Sandy Bridge.
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
January 03 2011 11:30 GMT
#72
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

interesting review from tomshardware
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 03 2011 16:05 GMT
#73
NDA lifting this morning was a surprise to me =o
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 03 2011 20:25 GMT
#74
On January 03 2011 20:01 Rouel wrote:
In tech, it's about the others making a mistake and with a brand new architecture, this was AMDs chance to have Intel stumble- just as they did with Pentium4.
(as did AMD by pissing off their best design team that kicked Intels ass with the K8 and x64)
Reading a couple of the reviews, Intel looks to keep on delivering with about the regular expected improvement. Not good, not bad.
Same story as always in other words- if you have the last generation or two no need to jump on the Sandy Bridge.

If you rate intel's releases are not good or bad just meh then amd must be shit, in terms of performance, efficiency, features and cost.
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
January 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#75
I wonder if the hyperthreading on the 2600k makes much of a difference for streaming games.
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
January 03 2011 22:10 GMT
#76
On January 04 2011 05:33 scottyyy wrote:
I wonder if the hyperthreading on the 2600k makes much of a difference for streaming games.


Hyperthreading definately helps reduce lag while playing and streaming at the same time. However, you will also need to make sure your internet supports the streaming rate or it will lag/be very blurry and pixelated.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 03 2011 22:15 GMT
#77
Hyper threading would only matter if the software you using to stream benefits from more threads, ie if it's coded for such work.
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 22:41:37
January 03 2011 22:40 GMT
#78
On January 03 2011 16:19 Ner0 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
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http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
[image loading]


Is there any way that the graphical capabilities of the bridge would compound with an actual graphics card, or no effect? I mean what purpose does this built-in gpu have if you already have a video card?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 03 2011 22:42 GMT
#79
On January 04 2011 07:40 Encrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 16:19 Ner0 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
[image loading]

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
[image loading]


Is there any way that the graphical capabilities of the bridge would compound with an actual graphics card, or no effect? I mean what purpose does this built-in gpu have if you already have a video card?


There is no purpose. It's just disabled if its not in use.
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
January 03 2011 23:34 GMT
#80
Reviews that aren't shit:
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=98&Itemid=1

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested

Additionally Kanter's review isn't out yet, but if you're interested in microarchitecture his Sandy Bridge article from a few months ago is still an excellent read:
http://realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT091810191937
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