• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:41
CET 20:41
KST 04:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA17
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2080 users

Sandy Bridge to be released jan 9th - Page 4

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
January 03 2011 07:18 GMT
#61
So apparently the integrated graphics (HD 3000) can run SC on low pretty easy. Would anyone recommend to anyone going after a 400-600 build to skip a graphics card for a month or two and pick up the i5 2500k over the i3?
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:38:22
January 03 2011 07:19 GMT
#62
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
[image loading]

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
[image loading]
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
January 03 2011 07:37 GMT
#63
Really impressive performance in games. It is amazing how it gets more fps when you could think that it was limited by the GPU or something other than the CPU.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
January 03 2011 08:04 GMT
#64
The IPC increase is fairly subjective however, when we talk quad-cores. So far, I believe only TR is showing enough to compare the Lynnfields directly to the SBs at equal clock rates.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

The i7 875 is 2.93Ghz, as is the i3 2100.
The i7 970 is 3.2Ghz while the i5 2400 is 3.1Ghz and the i5 2500K 3.3Ghz.

All things considered, we are not looking at much of an IPC increase at all for SC2. We expected this, and now it's confirmed.

However, remember that SB's OC far easier than the Lynnfields. Considering we've seen air OCs from 4.5Ghz and up, even if the IPC increase isn't much, maybe 10% depending on application, the increased headroom makes the K-processors very compelling. Obviously the only one I would recommend is the $216, as it is the cheapest.
With no power comes no responsibility?
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 03 2011 09:11 GMT
#65
There's really no reason to go higher than a i5 2500k if all you are going to do is play Starcraft 2.

i5 2500k obviously overclocked + 2 GTX 460 SLI + SSD to load the maps = BALLIN!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
AcOrP
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 10:12:51
January 03 2011 10:12 GMT
#66
I am more interested in the performance SB I hope for 8 core with 12-24GB ram, I should wait as we saw with i7 950 price dropped from 600$ to 300$. I recently ordered SSD 160GB intel drive still waitin for the delivery my rig is currently running e5200 @ 3,75GHz and it's slow as hell. But I hate to wait :S you wait for release then wait for price drop then the new technology come and the wait is huge...
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
January 03 2011 10:17 GMT
#67
My i5-750/GTX460 setup should be good for another 3 years, especially when I eventually buy a better cooler and learn how to overclock the CPU. I kinda wish I waited though.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
January 03 2011 10:32 GMT
#68
Upgrading my q6600 would be a good upgrade, but there isn't anything I want to play that requires more power so I'll be waiting. Probably won't be any reason to upgrade until the next generation of consoles rolls out.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Ner0
Profile Joined July 2008
United States131 Posts
January 03 2011 10:37 GMT
#69
On January 03 2011 17:04 mav451 wrote:
The IPC increase is fairly subjective however, when we talk quad-cores. So far, I believe only TR is showing enough to compare the Lynnfields directly to the SBs at equal clock rates.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

Some very nice improvements on the min frames on a realistic test. Great to see.
FrozenSolid
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 12:27:45
January 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#70
The i7 950 dropped in price because there wasn't much difference between the i7 920 and the 950, and because it's easy to overclock a 920 to the 950s speeds. The two chips are pretty much mechanically the same, and the price drop brought them much closer together financially as well.

You shouldn't wait for the enthusiast level products in hopes of future proofing a system, that's not what those products are designed for. I don't think we're going to get a chip that offers better value than the i5 2500k until Ivy, so that's what I'd recommend going for if you're looking for an upgrade. If you need hyperthreading for whatever reason, go with the i7 2600k, not with the enthusiast level i7s. Chances are you won't need the triple/quad channel ram from socket LGA 2011 mobos. Just like now with the Nehalem chips and the i5/7 2x00 series, the enthusiast level Sandy-Bridge chips will be outperformed by Ivy-Bridge's sweet spot, and the high level stuff will cost you pretty much the same as two generations of value setups.
Upgrading from LGA 1156 or 1366 is not recommended. I wouldn't consider upgrading from the Core2Quad Q6600 or Q9550 to SB either, but the Core2Duo lineup is outdated enough for me to recommend an upgrade. The i5 2500k will provide an easily noticable difference there. As for camp AMD, socket AM2/AM2+ processors in general are starting to age (with a few exceptions), and I wouldn't fault anyone for considering an upgrade.

Until we see results from Bulldozer, we can conclude that the i5 2500k will be the chip to get for any new sweet-spot build while the i3 2100 will battle with AMD's Athlon II x4 and Phenom II x4 series for budget gaming. I do expect a price drop for Phenom II x4s before Bulldozer ships.
Sometimes it's better to be good than it is to be lucky and sometimes it's better to be lucky than it is to be good.
Rouel
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden138 Posts
January 03 2011 11:01 GMT
#71
In tech, it's about the others making a mistake and with a brand new architecture, this was AMDs chance to have Intel stumble- just as they did with Pentium4.
(as did AMD by pissing off their best design team that kicked Intels ass with the K8 and x64)
Reading a couple of the reviews, Intel looks to keep on delivering with about the regular expected improvement. Not good, not bad.
Same story as always in other words- if you have the last generation or two no need to jump on the Sandy Bridge.
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
January 03 2011 11:30 GMT
#72
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

interesting review from tomshardware
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 03 2011 16:05 GMT
#73
NDA lifting this morning was a surprise to me =o
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 03 2011 20:25 GMT
#74
On January 03 2011 20:01 Rouel wrote:
In tech, it's about the others making a mistake and with a brand new architecture, this was AMDs chance to have Intel stumble- just as they did with Pentium4.
(as did AMD by pissing off their best design team that kicked Intels ass with the K8 and x64)
Reading a couple of the reviews, Intel looks to keep on delivering with about the regular expected improvement. Not good, not bad.
Same story as always in other words- if you have the last generation or two no need to jump on the Sandy Bridge.

If you rate intel's releases are not good or bad just meh then amd must be shit, in terms of performance, efficiency, features and cost.
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
January 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#75
I wonder if the hyperthreading on the 2600k makes much of a difference for streaming games.
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
January 03 2011 22:10 GMT
#76
On January 04 2011 05:33 scottyyy wrote:
I wonder if the hyperthreading on the 2600k makes much of a difference for streaming games.


Hyperthreading definately helps reduce lag while playing and streaming at the same time. However, you will also need to make sure your internet supports the streaming rate or it will lag/be very blurry and pixelated.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 03 2011 22:15 GMT
#77
Hyper threading would only matter if the software you using to stream benefits from more threads, ie if it's coded for such work.
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 22:41:37
January 03 2011 22:40 GMT
#78
On January 03 2011 16:19 Ner0 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
[image loading]

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
[image loading]


Is there any way that the graphical capabilities of the bridge would compound with an actual graphics card, or no effect? I mean what purpose does this built-in gpu have if you already have a video card?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 03 2011 22:42 GMT
#79
On January 04 2011 07:40 Encrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 16:19 Ner0 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Old i5 and i7 slot in at 45fps as well. - Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/20
1024 x 768 - Medium Graphics, Ultra CPU Settings
[image loading]

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188/6

1920x1080, 8 player match, 30 minutes long, high settings
[image loading]


Is there any way that the graphical capabilities of the bridge would compound with an actual graphics card, or no effect? I mean what purpose does this built-in gpu have if you already have a video card?


There is no purpose. It's just disabled if its not in use.
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
January 03 2011 23:34 GMT
#80
Reviews that aren't shit:
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=98&Itemid=1

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20188

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested

Additionally Kanter's review isn't out yet, but if you're interested in microarchitecture his Sandy Bridge article from a few months ago is still an excellent read:
http://realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT091810191937
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#31
RotterdaM1377
IndyStarCraft 295
SteadfastSC291
kabyraGe 191
BRAT_OK 128
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1435
IndyStarCraft 295
SteadfastSC 284
BRAT_OK 128
Livibee 99
JuggernautJason70
UpATreeSC 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25851
Calm 2826
Dewaltoss 146
firebathero 132
Backho 55
NaDa 12
Dota 2
qojqva3258
Counter-Strike
fl0m5780
pashabiceps815
zeus595
allub175
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu184
Other Games
FrodaN2865
Grubby2677
Beastyqt816
ArmadaUGS147
Sick121
C9.Mang094
Mew2King89
KnowMe74
QueenE66
Trikslyr65
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream343
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3051
League of Legends
• Nemesis4349
• TFBlade1371
Other Games
• imaqtpie968
• WagamamaTV546
• Shiphtur269
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 19m
Wardi Open
16h 19m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
OSC
1d 17h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.