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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On January 17 2011 20:18 TBO wrote: If you get a Sandy Bridge, you should avoid ASUS boards for now - there seems to be a lot of trouble with them (nearly no RAM working together with them flawlessly if even at all). Sadly I had to experience that firsthand before reading about it ;( I got a 2600k, Asus p8p67 Pro with Corsair ram and everything works fine :o. | ||
IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
![]() In 4on4 i got down to 1-10 FPS in big fights, now i can do ~100-200 on low. But maybe i put some stuff on high or ultra now. I got a AsRock P67 Pro3 and some cheap ADATA 1333 Memory. Works perfectly. | ||
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
IMO, it will probably end up being insignificant for most. I got scared by that in 2009 with my P55-UD3R...but then I realized my OCs are so tame (3.6Ghz at 1.21vcore), that it never became an issue. Heck, someone else with my board was running 4Ghz at a much higher voltage, LLC on, and they saw nothing after checking their socket at least 4 times. So I'd expect the same in this go-round, keep your voltage reasonable (e.g. below 1.4core on the SB) | ||
TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On January 17 2011 21:18 R1CH wrote: Built two systems with Asus boards, both work fine with two different brands of RAM (certified for P67). Are you setting the memory profile to XMP so the board knows what voltage to supply? Turned out it was just the board as such which was faulty... got a replacement at the shop I bought it and now it works flawlessly. | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
"In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives." http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall http://www.tomshardware.com/news/cougar-point-sandy-bridge-sata-error,12108.html | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
Just move your main hdd's onto the 2x sata 6.0 ports that are likely to be on the board as sata 6.0 does take 3.0 drives without a hitch there shouldn't be an issue and that would cover most people. If you're like me and run 6 hdd's on your computer for various reasons then you may be worried but you're more likely to notice an issue so i guess the glass is half full? | ||
shell
Portugal2722 Posts
everything on ultra with 1900 res and works super fine! i'm very very happy ;D | ||
cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
On February 01 2011 04:15 Fishball wrote: Thought I might share this here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4142/intel-discovers-bug-in-6series-chipset-begins-recall http://www.tomshardware.com/news/cougar-point-sandy-bridge-sata-error,12108.html I hope people are aware of this. That sounds really bad. | ||
LorD_AreS
Canada208 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 01 2011 05:06 cHaNg-sTa wrote: I hope people are aware of this. That sounds really bad. Not really intel will pay for the rma's in a few months once they get the process worked out. but the problem doesn't even cause data loss it's a performance loss in like 3 4 years of moderate use. The problem isn't that large and horrible for a consumer but it is an issue. what happens is the performance degrades as the BER climbs on that port which causes the SATA controller to eventually start resending data/commands because they never made it to the HDD. Over time the BER gets so bad that it can no longer talk to the HDD at all. It's assuming, but they make it sound like you could just move it to another SATA II port and that would work for awhile. Basically, the simplified explanation is that there are 2 disk drive controllers on the P67/H67 motherboards, controlling a total of 6 "SATA" disk drive ports (usable for Hard Drives, Solid State Drives, and CD/DVD Drives). 2 of the ports are higher speed SATA-III (6 Gigabit/second) and are unaffected by this issue. 4 of the ports are on lower speed SATA-II (3 Gigabit/second) and will slowly degrade over time. Degrade in this case being defined as "will show data transfer error and retry, resulting in longer and longer data access times, until eventually the drive on the controller will drop off as a detected device". The DRIVES themselves are not damaged, they can be installed and recognized and used as normal if shifted to a working controller/port. The fault appears to happen in 5-15% of the affected motherboards (depending on usage) over a 1-3 year period. Or much more often as is being reported by RAID users (where the drives are strung together to make one virtual drive, with a much higher read/write activity quotient). Official response from various PC vendors has been "Keep using your system, move to a SATA-III port if you can, and once the supply chain catches up around about April, return your motherboard for an exchange". Unless you're a heavy data I/O user, RAID user, this issue is unlikely to affect you at all in the short term. (Disclaimer, I am not a Maingear, Intel, Newegg, or other retailer employee, I'm a volunteer tech over at the Newegg customer tech support forums) There's a very strong knee-jerk return trend being observed in the field, that's why I'm trying to stress that the average user/owner will not certainly encounter this issue during a normal PC service lifetime. This is NOT a formal recall of all parts, but pc part vendors are generally honoring returns in good faith because there are no current parts in the pipeline that are free of this issue. If you have some patience, some technical common sense, and not a little bit of faith, you can make sure you are unaffected by this issue in the short term - and in the long term, all will be made good. Yeah it's a hassle, yeah nobody likes it, but if you have a working system, it's not going to just magically go poof and die on you overnight. You WILL see speed degradation over time as a symptom. You CAN switch ports to work around the issue (a $25 PCIE SATA controller works pretty well too). This is by no means a fatally flawed platform. Relevant Data: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20030052-1.html?tag=river | ||
HyperLimen
United States278 Posts
![]() I just got done putting my new system together a few days ago. What a shame. The CPU is insanely fast compared to my old e8400. Runs very cold too with a noctua nh-d14 on it. | ||
semantics
10040 Posts
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
So much for building my computer with my Tax refund. *sigh* By the time they fix this shit Bulldozer might be out... I might just go AMD | ||
LorD_AreS
Canada208 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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LorD_AreS
Canada208 Posts
I don't really do much except games and I really loved the 2500k performance in games so I might just wait for new chipset around april. Well see ![]() | ||
mav451
United States1596 Posts
On February 01 2011 08:38 skyR wrote: Bulldozer won't be ready for a Q2 launch. Keep dreaming I guess =\ I'm gonna be sad if they miss the "early summer" date. Those were the CEO's own words from the January 2011 Q&A - they can't miss the launch date now, right? ![]() JF-AMD keeps insisting that BD is still good for Q2 release, which is probably the only thing keep me positive about a June release. | ||
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