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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 04 2012 20:53 Medrea wrote: I stopped reading at the word "without prediction" Every mouse needs prediction. I think we are getting a lot of confusion between "prediction" and angle-snapping/drift control. I'm still planning a major re-write of the technical guides section, I don't know if I will get to it this week or not. (busy with Mafia and personal stuff, sorry!) | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
This and the use of the word lag to also mean FPS drops irk me. | ||
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SushilovesWasabi
9 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 07 2012 03:45 HaXXspetten wrote: Can someone tell me any reason you would ever want a wireless mouse instead of a wired one? You'll always be using it close enough so that the distance isn't a problem, I never have a problem with the wire getting in the way, the response time is better, and you don't need batteries. Those are two very good reasons for having a wired mouse, but I can't really think of any at all for having a wireless one. portable, outside of that i guess people who really don't like wires but don't mind a heavier mouse. | ||
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castled
United States322 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:13 wo1fwood wrote: The G9x doesn't exactly have built in acceleration, but there is a 5-10% positive acceleration flaw. Another thing to note about the G9x, is that it's a very heavy mouse, especially for its size. The grips add about 70g to the mouse from what I've gathered. Thank you for this clarification. 5-10% seems pretty small, I'm surprised other people notice it. The mouse is very heavy with the large grip but with the smaller grip it doesn't seem different from average, although probably heavier for the size. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
On February 07 2012 12:52 castled wrote: Thank you for this clarification. 5-10% seems pretty small, I'm surprised other people notice it. The mouse is very heavy with the large grip but with the smaller grip it doesn't seem different from average, although probably heavier for the size. 10% positive accel is kinda a big deal, if you do a 180 degree spin to shoot somebody you know is directly behind you and you miss by 20 degrees you will just die | ||
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Nancial
197 Posts
What is the mouse that is most like Razer Abyssus/Razer Salmosa (they are 99% identical) but is non-Razer. I feel like what I need is : - rather light weight - relatively small size - rubber - as few extra buttons as possible , preferably only two main and thats it - big buttons preferred - similar shape (no "rollercoaster" shapes, should be shaped like salmosa ) - claw/fingertip grip of course p.s. Is there anywhere online where I can refer to in order to find instructions on how to repair my left-click button perhaps? My razer Abyssus is the only mouse I ever need, rly the best for me, but left click doesn't work up to 30% of time now. it doesnt make a clicking sound and click doesnt happen, so i guess there is something worn out inside... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 07 2012 18:55 Nancial wrote: Guys I've read some of the FAQ in the first post but still havent quite found an answer to my question. What is the mouse that is most like Razer Abyssus/Razer Salmosa (they are 99% identical) but is non-Razer. I feel like what I need is : - rather light weight - relatively small size - rubber - as few extra buttons as possible , preferably only two main and thats it - big buttons preferred - similar shape (no "rollercoaster" shapes, should be shaped like salmosa ) - claw/fingertip grip of course p.s. Is there anywhere online where I can refer to in order to find instructions on how to repair my left-click button perhaps? My razer Abyssus is the only mouse I ever need, rly the best for me, but left click doesn't work up to 30% of time now. it doesnt make a clicking sound and click doesnt happen, so i guess there is something worn out inside... Yeah, sorry that FAQ is terrible it badly needs to be rewritten. lol If you're looking for a smaller claw grip mouse, the Razer Orochi, Roccat Pyra, and CM Spawn Inferno might work for you. They've both got that short stubby design with the low taper on the front end that works well for a claw grip. However both the Inferno and Orochi use the Philips Twin Eye sensor, and some people have reported a z-axis issue with that sensor where when lifting off the mosue and setting it back down the cursor jumps a bit. Wouldn't really be an issue unless you are an FPS gamer. wo1fwood put together a really nice review of the Pyra that you might want to check out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304068 Given the very low price of the Pyra, I would suggest you check that out. On February 07 2012 03:43 SushilovesWasabi wrote: can somebody tell me something about the zowie am-gs? this mouse looks also pretty nice (not so nice like the mico, but still ...) You know, I haven't been able to find any good professional reviews of the AM, there is a review by a forum member on overclock.net here if you are interested. I actually don't know what the difference is between the AM-GS and the regular AM, the Zowie Gear site has the same specs posted for both. The Zowie AM actually looks like a really good mouse, apart from the fact that there are only 3 DPI settings. New Egg literally just got it in, and it's still pretty expensive $59.99, for both the GS and the regular AM. Amazon does not yet have either. | ||
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IPS.Blue
Germany309 Posts
On February 07 2012 14:03 Cyro wrote: 10% positive accel is kinda a big deal, if you do a 180 degree spin to shoot somebody you know is directly behind you and you miss by 20 degrees you will just die 10 % acceleration would be extremely noticeable. However: the newer versions of the G9x sensor (the 9500; and soon maybe the 9800) laser sensor, do have an positive acceleration of about 3 % (it depends on the surface). And the important thing is: this acceleration is only triggered, when your movement speed reaches a certain frontier. My guess ist, that players like Mvp don't recognize the acceleration of the G9x that much, because they don't cross the movement speed border often enough (about 1 m/s). You don't do 180 degree spins in SC 2. Below movements of 1 m/s the tracking quality of the 9500 is superior to that of optical sensors. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826570012 | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On February 08 2012 01:39 TheToast wrote: Yeah, sorry that FAQ is terrible it badly needs to be rewritten. lol If you're looking for a smaller claw grip mouse, the Razer Orochi, Roccat Pyra, and CM Spawn Inferno might work for you. They've both got that short stubby design with the low taper on the front end that works well for a claw grip. However both the Inferno and Orochi use the Philips Twin Eye sensor, and some people have reported a z-axis issue with that sensor where when lifting off the mosue and setting it back down the cursor jumps a bit. Wouldn't really be an issue unless you are an FPS gamer. wo1fwood put together a really nice review of the Pyra that you might want to check out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304068 Given the very low price of the Pyra, I would suggest you check that out. You know, I haven't been able to find any good professional reviews of the AM, there is a review by a forum member on overclock.net here if you are interested. I actually don't know what the difference is between the AM-GS and the regular AM, the Zowie Gear site has the same specs posted for both. The Zowie AM actually looks like a really good mouse, apart from the fact that there are only 3 DPI settings. New Egg literally just got it in, and it's still pretty expensive $59.99, for both the GS and the regular AM. Amazon does not yet have either. GS just means Glossy Sides. | ||
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SushilovesWasabi
9 Posts
On February 08 2012 01:39 TheToast wrote: Yeah, sorry that FAQ is terrible it badly needs to be rewritten. lol If you're looking for a smaller claw grip mouse, the Razer Orochi, Roccat Pyra, and CM Spawn Inferno might work for you. They've both got that short stubby design with the low taper on the front end that works well for a claw grip. However both the Inferno and Orochi use the Philips Twin Eye sensor, and some people have reported a z-axis issue with that sensor where when lifting off the mosue and setting it back down the cursor jumps a bit. Wouldn't really be an issue unless you are an FPS gamer. wo1fwood put together a really nice review of the Pyra that you might want to check out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304068 Given the very low price of the Pyra, I would suggest you check that out. You know, I haven't been able to find any good professional reviews of the AM, there is a review by a forum member on overclock.net here if you are interested. I actually don't know what the difference is between the AM-GS and the regular AM, the Zowie Gear site has the same specs posted for both. The Zowie AM actually looks like a really good mouse, apart from the fact that there are only 3 DPI settings. New Egg literally just got it in, and it's still pretty expensive $59.99, for both the GS and the regular AM. Amazon does not yet have either. I read some of the other mouses "professional" reviews. And seriously, some of those are really bad. So i am more interested in some user reviews. Would be enough, when somebody is telling me, how the mouse feels in the hand, if there is any pixel skipping, and if they would recommend it. Edit: Thanks for the link, i am going to read it now. Edit 2: this is, what i was looking for. Great site. Thx | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 08 2012 03:56 Ryps wrote: Anyone have any recommendation on a mouse similar to the Deathadder but smaller / lighter ? What do you mean, "like the deathadder"? A similar shape? No driftcontrol/anglesnapping? Similar price? Please be more specific. @Skullflower: ty for that, I would have been confused for a while lol. -edit: SushilovesWasabi: Glad that helps.  If I ever get some money I might consider getting an AM too, especially now that New Egg has it. If you end up buying one, let us know what you think of it  | ||
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iDope
Saudi Arabia223 Posts
Anyone had issues like that and know how to fix them? | ||
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Vigor
Canada77 Posts
-Mionix Naos 5000 Laser Gaming mouse [Main one im looking at] -g9x Logitech -Logitech G400 Optical Gaming Mouse -Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 5 | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On February 08 2012 06:15 Vigor wrote: So story is just sent back my steelseries Xai [compatible issues] and got store credit so now im looking at new mice to purchase and im just posting something for u to comment on some mouses i listed and mouses u guys prefer to use! [dont post razer or steelseries products to buy cas i will not purchase them ever in my life lol. xai was my first venture into the mainstream steelseries and it was a horrid experience so the mouses im interested in are: -Mionix Naos 5000 Laser Gaming mouse [Main one im looking at] -g9x Logitech -Logitech G400 Optical Gaming Mouse -Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 5 What do you want us to comment on exactly? I gaurentee each of those mice have their fans and their detractors. If you want some assistance, I suggest you post some more infomtion about what you are looking for like grip type, hand size, budget, and what exactly you are looking for. I also have reviews linked for two of those mice in the OP. Can also find a ton of information by just googling (that's how I find reviews *gasp*) Also please don't ask for advice and then say "but don't tell me X". If you want good advice you need to be open to hearing everyone's opinions, otherwise we can't truely give you advice. | ||
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Vigor
Canada77 Posts
#2 "dont tell me X" meaning if u are a steelseries fanboy or razer and love there products i dont need input on them good advice can still be told without hearing everyones opinion on everything but anyways for people without common sense. list things you like about the mouse [what grip you feel it is] issues you've had with products listed etc etc you kno... the things you say when a friend goes "how do you like the mouse" herpderp derpin. -edit: did my research but i still value most of TL's input "most" | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On February 08 2012 06:15 Vigor wrote: So story is just sent back my steelseries Xai [compatible issues] and got store credit so now im looking at new mice to purchase and im just posting something for u to comment on some mouses i listed and mouses u guys prefer to use! [dont post razer or steelseries products to buy cas i will not purchase them ever in my life lol. xai was my first venture into the mainstream steelseries and it was a horrid experience so the mouses im interested in are: -Mionix Naos 5000 Laser Gaming mouse [Main one im looking at] -g9x Logitech -Logitech G400 Optical Gaming Mouse -Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 5 If you really want the Mionix Naos, I'd suggest you look at the 3200 optical one rather than the laser. You don't really need 5000 DPI anyway. (I never go above 1600-1800 and I play on 1920 x 1080) And as far as I can tell, they have the same dimensions and form. As for the G9X, it uses the same sensor as the Xai (has accel) and is pretty small. So if you have big hands, it might not exactly be comfy. On February 08 2012 04:51 iDope wrote: I have a Razer Orochi for my Laptop and a SteelSeries Xai on my main PC. To be honest I was quite satisfied by my Xai until I got the Orochi. Although the Orochi is a smaller mouse it just feels smoother and oddly enough on my Steelpad Qck+ it gives more consitant tracking than the Xai. Maybe my xai laser has some dust infront of the lens or something but it is really having trouble tracking properly these days. Anyone had issues like that and know how to fix them? Having used a Xai before, I've seen how bad the tracking gets on a cloth pad. The negative accel makes it impossible to make accurate, swift motions. Of the laser sensors I've tried, the PTE (what the Orochi uses) is actually the one I've had the least problems with. Although optical is really much more reliable. | ||
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