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Enhance Pointer Precision Option on Windows

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EZjijy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1039 Posts
September 28 2010 21:28 GMT
#1
As I was browsing through the Gaming Mouse thread, someone made a claim that the Enhance pointer precision option actually made the actual precision worse because of some acceleration adjustment. I've always had the option on because I honestly didn't know any better. Does anyone use this option and think its helpful or is it just bad no matter what?

After using having the option on for quite some time, I definitely feel a difference with it off.

Poll: Do you use the "Enhance pointer precision" Option?

No (714)
 
72%

Yes (280)
 
28%

994 total votes

Your vote: Do you use the "Enhance pointer precision" Option?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
September 28 2010 21:35 GMT
#2
It's bad when you need to make quick reactions for short cursor distance as the faster you move, the further you travel.

ie. You need to move half an inch really fast, but if you move too fast the mouse enhancement will try to adjust and you fly like 3 inches too far.

It's good for control sticks used on console FPS because they can only move so far. Bad for when you really need short precision with a mouse.
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scph
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:46:49
September 28 2010 21:41 GMT
#3
You need stability. The ratio from your hand movement to you cursor movement must always be the same regardless of the speed you move your hand. Well that's if you want consistent accuracy. Enhanced precision basically makes it so the faster you move, the faster the cursor accelerates. It's best to keep this accel speed constant no matter how fast you move the mouse.

Edit: test it. With it on move your mouse 3 inches on the desk quickly then slowly. The distances traveled between the two will be different. With precision off it wlll remain the same distance no matter the speed the mouse is moved.
Warp
Profile Joined August 2010
United States166 Posts
September 28 2010 21:43 GMT
#4
Off... ALWAYS. You might feel you are more accurate with it on but in truth, you will never be HuK with it on.

Plus day9 said in one of his podcasts in sc1 "DON'T USE MOUSE ACCELERATION."
"nothing supscious going on here" - Camille Cavour aka Chris Loranger aka HuK the beast
SnakeChomp
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada125 Posts
September 28 2010 21:47 GMT
#5
"Enhance pointer precision" actually means "Use mouse acceleration." Microsoft just renamed the feature for some reason in their newer operation systems. Mouse acceleration is not so good for gaming so you shouldn't use it.
standalone
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway73 Posts
September 28 2010 21:50 GMT
#6
Enhanced Pointer Precision is mouse acceleration. Mouse acceleration changes the sensitivity of the mouse based on the rate at which you are moving it. This is wonderful in an operating system as it allows a nice mix of precision (low sensitivity) and ease of use (high sensitivity).

It's however always horrible if you want exact hand movements to result in exact mouse movements consistently. And most gamers want exactly that.
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Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:53:41
September 28 2010 21:52 GMT
#7
its been said time and time again in every single thread like this:
"Its all preference"

I have used mouse accel for years, and I prefer it on because I am so used to it.
I used it playing competetive CS, CoD4, serious WoW.

At this point I know exactly how fast and how much I need to move the mouse to get anywhere because of muscle memory.

Its actually quite nice in FPS for high precision sniping.
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standalone
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway73 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:59:34
September 28 2010 21:58 GMT
#8
It's not all preference. It's about what it actually does, how it affects muscle memory and overall how it works for gaming.

Mouse acceleration makes muscle memory training harder and less reliable. You don't have the ability to calculate the exact speed at which you are moving your mouse to get a specific response.
Fuck my overlord life
scph
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)262 Posts
September 28 2010 22:12 GMT
#9
Preference true. But no one in high level play uses mouse accel and if they do, they definitely aren't using their tools efficiently, inhibiting their potential skills greatly. Muscle memory is there but inconsistency results in more chances of mistakes no matter how good you've gotten in any game.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
September 28 2010 22:17 GMT
#10
maybe i should turn off acceleration then. It feels so weird without it though.
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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
September 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#11
On September 29 2010 07:17 blagoonga123 wrote:
maybe i should turn off acceleration then. It feels so weird without it though.


You will get used to it pretty fast.
I'll call Nada.
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
September 28 2010 22:23 GMT
#12
On September 29 2010 06:52 Seide wrote:
its been said time and time again in every single thread like this:
"Its all preference"

I have used mouse accel for years, and I prefer it on because I am so used to it.
I used it playing competetive CS, CoD4, serious WoW.

At this point I know exactly how fast and how much I need to move the mouse to get anywhere because of muscle memory.

Its actually quite nice in FPS for high precision sniping.

You might be the only person I've ever heard say that.
Mouse Accel is absolutely -terrible- for any kind of high-precision sniping. I'm curious as to how good your teams were in CS and CoD.
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soultwister
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland80 Posts
September 28 2010 22:28 GMT
#13
I said that, so you might've read my post. Don't use EPP, i fucks your gaming precision hard. I had it on untill i heard Day[9]'s old podcast about hardware, turned it off, got used to it fast. Never looked back.
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
September 28 2010 22:32 GMT
#14
I tried turning it off and can't click on stuff for shit. Is there really a downside to leaving it on, given that I'm familiar with it?
techh
Profile Joined June 2010
Iceland82 Posts
September 28 2010 22:32 GMT
#15
turn that shit off, its so bad it snot even funny.

as one said before me
it fucks your gaming precision hard


its even worse if you have it on in a fps game. Thats just... wrong...
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 22:35:03
September 28 2010 22:33 GMT
#16
On September 29 2010 07:23 G2Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 06:52 Seide wrote:
its been said time and time again in every single thread like this:
"Its all preference"

I have used mouse accel for years, and I prefer it on because I am so used to it.
I used it playing competetive CS, CoD4, serious WoW.

At this point I know exactly how fast and how much I need to move the mouse to get anywhere because of muscle memory.

Its actually quite nice in FPS for high precision sniping.

You might be the only person I've ever heard say that.
Mouse Accel is absolutely -terrible- for any kind of high-precision sniping. I'm curious as to how good your teams were in CS and CoD.


Second that. Being an ex-competitive fps player, any acceleration at all is bad. It isn't preference, it's stupidity to use it. It makes movements completely random, and you cannot have precise aiming while using acceleration as it is effected by your last movement, making mouse movements completely random.

I use the MarkC MouseAccel fix (windows will still use acceleration even if enhance pointer precision is disabled). It will help your mouse coordination greatly, even in Starcraft.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
September 28 2010 22:34 GMT
#17
i was playing with it on during esl cologne germany, god did it feel so different
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
September 28 2010 22:34 GMT
#18
it is effected by your last movement

would you please explain this?
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
September 28 2010 22:40 GMT
#19
On September 29 2010 07:34 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
it is effected by your last movement

would you please explain this?

Example: If you make a large sweep across your mouse pad at a fast speed, and then try to move the mouse slowly (say, following a target with your crosshair in a fps) your mouse speed will be artificially accelerated as a result of your last movement, making your ability to follow the target inconsistent. Aim is all about consistency, and this applies to your ability to micro in SC2 aswell. You can not practice and achieve perfect movements if they are completely random every time.
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
September 28 2010 22:41 GMT
#20
On September 29 2010 07:19 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 07:17 blagoonga123 wrote:
maybe i should turn off acceleration then. It feels so weird without it though.


You will get used to it pretty fast.

Switching from on to off is sooo much easier than the other way around. Shouldn't take more than two weeks to get used to it completely.
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