EPTNote: Speeds on DDR3 look nothing like speeds on DDR2, DDR2 will have much tighter timings and lower clocks. This is the main reason that performance overall between the two is fairly negligible, but Cas9 1333 is plenty fast for most users.
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Note: Speeds on DDR3 look nothing like speeds on DDR2, DDR2 will have much tighter timings and lower clocks. This is the main reason that performance overall between the two is fairly negligible, but Cas9 1333 is plenty fast for most users. | ||
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Anomek
Poland152 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 03 2012 23:51 Anomek wrote: Just because I like to know such things. When do I need faster RAM with better timings? After I upgraded everything else? To other applications then gaming? Certain other uses will gain more, yes, frequently CPU intensive tasks (outside gaming) will see more performance gains from faster RAM. For specifics, you'd pretty much just have to look for benches depending on what you intend to use. Timings vs clock, same thing. Depends on the software. In a gaming rig, yes, RAM is roughly the last thing to spend up on. My order of priority would roughly go CPU > GPU > Gaming/Storage HDD > Boot SSD > RAM. CPU over GPU because if I go slightly lower on the GPU, I can always SLI/CFX later, Gaming/Storage HDD over boot SSD because it's easier to move your OS install, and once you're done OCing the boot speed isn't as critical, and RAM last because it's the least gain for the money above the baseline generally. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 04 2012 00:02 skyR wrote: In the current generation, when you have too much money or are going to be using the IGP. Yeah, I guess this is the simpler answer. Although I'd bet you agree roughly on that order of priority. And bear in mind, even if you buy RAM that's rated for better speed/timing, frequently they test at funky voltages, and you may have to do some tweaking in the BIOS to get them there and stable. It's just like OCing anything else. Except it can be more fiddly, and has drastically poorer results. If you don't own licenses to benching utilities, odds are you're not the type of person to notice the difference, or take the time to get the results. | ||
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STYDawn
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 04 2012 01:54 STYDawn wrote: Can anybody recommend a sub $50 GPU that will run mudbox? Well, it would probably help if their system requirements listed weren't useless. Part of it would depend on what OS you plan to use, probably. | ||
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STYDawn
137 Posts
Their system req certified only shows the workstation gpus, but i do know a friedn who runs mudbox on his alienware laptop. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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bubO
United States367 Posts
600~ What is your resolution? 1366 x 768 What are you using it for? Pure gaming What is your upgrade cycle? 5 years. When do you plan on building it? In a month or so Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? newegg | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On March 04 2012 03:45 bubO wrote: What is your budget? 600~ What is your resolution? 1366 x 768 What are you using it for? Pure gaming What is your upgrade cycle? 5 years. When do you plan on building it? In a month or so Do you plan on overclocking? no Do you need an Operating System? yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? no Where are you buying your parts from? newegg Fractal Design Core 3000 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ 3 Fans $69.99 PowerColor AX6870 1GBD5-2DH Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ... $159.99 FSP Group AURUM GOLD 400W (AU-400) ATX12V /EPS 12V 80PLUS GOLD Certified Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $64.99 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 $47.99 ASUS P8H67-V (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $104.99 ARCTIC COOLING ACFZ13 92mm High Performance CPU Cooler for Intel and AMD $39.99 Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32100 $109.99 $582.93 oh right os *edited* this http://i.imgur.com/H7Xd0.jpg | ||
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Medrea
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On March 04 2012 04:23 Shauni wrote: Fractal Design Core 3000 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ 3 Fans $69.99 PowerColor AX6870 1GBD5-2DH Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ... $159.99 FSP Group AURUM GOLD 400W (AU-400) ATX12V /EPS 12V 80PLUS GOLD Certified Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $64.99 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 $47.99 ASUS P8H67-V (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $104.99 ARCTIC COOLING ACFZ13 92mm High Performance CPU Cooler for Intel and AMD $39.99 Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32100 $109.99 $582.93 oh right os bub0 doesnt need a CPU cooler for 2100 since he isnt going to be overclocking. H67 for $105 makes no sense when an H61 can be had for $50. oh right os Its ok we'll fit it in. Choose the haf 912, its $50 after rebate. You can get the gskill value series for 10 bucks less. Corsair CX430WV2 is still $25 after rebate. While a gold PSU would be nice, the $40 saved is nice for tight budgets like this. You should be able to afford an OS now. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On March 04 2012 04:39 Medrea wrote: bub0 doesnt need a CPU cooler for 2100 since he isnt going to be overclocking. H67 for $105 makes no sense when an H61 can be had for $50. Its ok we'll fit it in. Choose the haf 912, its $50 after rebate. You can get the gskill value series for 10 bucks less. Hey i was still editing to fit the os. The intel stock cooler is noisy as fuck even at idle I would never put it in a friends case. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
For a quiet users I would then drop down to a 6850, his resolution is very very small. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Particularly not for somebody on a $600 budget who didn't mention noise. Also, I'm sure you could find something less than $40 that's quieter. FSP Aurum is also not that quiet either, not to mention the HD 6870. I mean, look at the fan curve on the (original) Aurum series: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PIGvA.png) or is the 400W way different? | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Medrea
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On March 04 2012 04:51 skyR wrote: Shauni's build is very terrible -.- whats wrong with it? except maybe try to compromise gfx to add in a hdd, i kinda forgot that... Dunno if he needs a new one though. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Motherboard was priced higher than some boards you can get that can also overclock. Cooler for a non overclocker. Overpriced RAM and case, though cases are subjective. I think the Aurum was a stretch. Im only 50 percent on the 6870 for such a small resolution but upgrade cycle of 5 years makes me feel better about it. Teamliquid prefers to make builds that favor the core system and the specific needs of the builder over luxuries. | ||
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