EPTBut keep in mind that many of the Rosewill-branded PSUs are unreliable, sketchy pieces of junk, especially those that come bundled the cases. Most newegg reviews don't know what's up, and even 2/10 of those give 1/5 eggs for having a bad PSU. You're unfortunately getting what you pay for.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
But keep in mind that many of the Rosewill-branded PSUs are unreliable, sketchy pieces of junk, especially those that come bundled the cases. Most newegg reviews don't know what's up, and even 2/10 of those give 1/5 eggs for having a bad PSU. You're unfortunately getting what you pay for. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
GT240 was a bad call, as it turns it, so I needed an upgrade | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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shmay
United States1091 Posts
On October 05 2010 07:35 Myrmidon wrote: If you want to look around online, a lot of people have HTPC (home theater PC) setups that are very similar to what you are doing. Several vendors already sell pre-configured systems for this purpose, but the price and performance isn't anything better than what you could build on your own. Mostly it's the small size of those machines that's attractive. For your needs you probably don't need any graphics capabilities beyond what a Core i3 has. I don't think anything fancier than this is necessary, and that includes Blu-Ray, a remote control (of course you can plug in a mouse/keyboard and use that), and a TV tuner. If you were to build your own and wanted a tower computer with room for upgrades (e.g. more HDDs), something like this would work:+ Show Spoiler + Athlon II X2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103687&cm_re=athlon_ii_x2-_-19-103-687-_-Product AM3 Mobo 880G (has onboard Radeon HD 4250 graphics) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138283 2 GB DDR3 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148352 1 TB HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433 Case + PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119118 Optical drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Windows 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116752&cm_re=windows_7_home_premium-_-32-116-752-_-Product That's about $400, which can be shaved down easily through some combos or better deals, I'm sure. Thank you so much. Will definitely want the space for future HDDs. I think I may buy those exact parts, any last words? Is there a reason to favor AMD over Intel? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Note that the above has only a single stick of RAM. The mobo only has 2 RAM slots, so I think a 2x1 GB RAM kit would be a bad idea since you couldn't upgrade that if necessary. In theory using 2x1 GB would result in slightly higher performance, but that really shouldn't matter. With a single 2 GB stick, there's room for another stick if needed. I think the PSU that comes with the case sucks, but that shouldn't matter for your undemanding usage. | ||
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ggofthejungle
Romania392 Posts
1)A 6 core processor. I don't want to risk overclocking it. 2) A high-end video card, but no Dual/SLI/Crossfire because it consumes too much power; I heard ATI cards eat less power than Nvidia; is that true? 3) The most RAM I can get (12GB seems the max available right now); 4)SSD - is 40GB not enough for that price though? 5)I don't care about the secondary hard drive - I won't use the full 2TB. I back up everything on external hard drives anyway. 500GB is enough for me. 2TB is overkill. Other than gaming(plenty of 3D) I also work with Adobe Flash and Photoshop(no 3D though). I will want to dual-boot. The initial cost is not a problem, but I don't want it to eat up more than $50 of electricity monthly. I finally have the money to buy something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227251 I definitely want a computer that will be usable for gaming in 3-4 years, so I'm aiming high. I don't feel like upgrading just 1-2 parts since in 3-4 years I'll have to upgrade the motherboard, too. Money is not really a problem but if there's something better that I could get for this money, please tell. I even considered getting a server to play games on, but those are really expensive. Is it that rig worth the money though? Also, I don't want to build it myself and when it gets shipped find out that SSD doesn't work with the motherboard or something stupid like that. I'd rather buy it already built so I know it works. Is there something better out there? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Why not build your own or get someone to build it for you to save yourself some money? Theres tons of forums to help you pick parts that are compatible with each other (this forum, hardforum, anandtech, etc). I wouldn't pay $3k for a pc and I'm sure most people here wouldn't either. You can build a computer for $1k - $2k and have it last for ~5 years with a simple gpu or cpu upgrade. If you don't have plans on doing multi card setups than you do not need a 1000w power supply. 500-600w is fine for non overclockers and single card solutions. The maximum memory supported on high end motherboards is usually 24gb. 12gb is pretty overkill. I'd suggest getting 8gb or getting 4gb for now and adding more if you need more. You can easily get an SSD with a $3000 budget. Yes, ATI consumes less power. They're releasing new cards in a few weeks so you might want to wait till than. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
First, a $1500 PC will last 3-4 years on high-end 3D game and Photoshop application no problem. What you have in mind - the $2849 pre-build PC is way over priced. They use an Intel Core i7 980X(3.33GHz) Extreme Edition. This CPU is VERY expensive and have very low price/performance ratio. The CPU is actually $1000 USD...O_O. Its nearly 2 times more expensive then an i7-960 which with some OC will actually put your on par with i7 980X. Its NOT worth the money. With $2000 or something you can have a rig the run every games on the planet in the next 4 year at maximum detail. This a $2000 PC build from Tomshardware(a very famous and trustworthy hardware review) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/newegg-combo-toms-hardware,2753.html You may want to take a look at this and see how you like it and post back here. And dont worry about parts that dont work well together. That was problems of the past, in recent year, its very rare to find some computers part that do not work when you put them together. | ||
micronesia
United States24771 Posts
My vostro 1000 from 2007 isn't working and I really don't feel like trying to nurse it along. I want to get a cheap laptop/notebook/netbook to use for displaying powerpoints and running basic software like MS OFFICE and an internet browser. You can't actually build a laptop right? You just have to buy it? This time around instead of just getting the bare-bottom Dell I'm looking into some alternatives. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I don't know, just scout around here or similar until something comes up that you think works: http://www.techbargains.com/laptopcomputernotebookreview.cfm | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Blimp
45 Posts
On October 06 2010 07:19 micronesia wrote: Not 100% on topic but all of you are 5x better at this than me. My vostro 1000 from 2007 isn't working and I really don't feel like trying to nurse it along. I want to get a cheap laptop/notebook/netbook to use for displaying powerpoints and running basic software like MS OFFICE and an internet browser. You can't actually build a laptop right? You just have to buy it? This time around instead of just getting the bare-bottom Dell I'm looking into some alternatives. I've got a Toshiba Satellite L455 laptop from Best Buy for less than $450. If you have credit you can pay as little as $11 a month, and if you pa it off in 11 months or less you have no interest. The laptop is actually my work horse and I use for everything. Runs Sc2 on low pretty well 1v1 until the mind-late game. However, if you're just looking for something that will run those programs, I would get this laptop. I was going to post a link to the deal on newegg but apparently it's gone... hardware seems to be on the cheap end right now though so just shop around. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
On October 06 2010 09:09 FabledIntegral wrote: OMG everything I bought is on sale now! The PSU is like half the price, the SSD is about $10 more for a 90gb ssd compared to my 60gb SSD, RAM on sale for 8GB 2x4gb while I only got 3x2gb for the same price I feel jipped .the longer you wait, the more sales you'll find it's true for everything | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On October 06 2010 10:18 Blimp wrote: I've got a Toshiba Satellite L455 laptop from Best Buy for less than $450. If you have credit you can pay as little as $11 a month, and if you pa it off in 11 months or less you have no interest. The laptop is actually my work horse and I use for everything. Runs Sc2 on low pretty well 1v1 until the mind-late game. However, if you're just looking for something that will run those programs, I would get this laptop. I was going to post a link to the deal on newegg but apparently it's gone... hardware seems to be on the cheap end right now though so just shop around. I'm currently using a Toshiba Satellite C655 laptop from best buy that came with a printer for $350 total and it is very adequate at basic tasks such as microsoft office, internet browsing, etc. Honestly if you want something really cheap you can find netbooks for even less, probably around $250 or so, which are also perfect for such tasks. I just don't like them because no dvd drive + insanely small keyboard/screen. | ||
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s0ftHanDs
Canada10 Posts
http://www.dell.com/ca/p/inspiron-zino-hd-410/fs Wondering if this will play SC2? AMD Phenom™ II X4 P920 (1.6GHz/2MB cache) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Up to 6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333Mhz - 2 DIMMS 750GB4 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) ATI HD5450 Mobility RadeonTM Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo Drive (BD-ROM, DVD/CD Burner) I can get it for just over $1k taxes in and shipping with my corporate discount. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On October 06 2010 11:29 s0ftHanDs wrote: Any opinions on the Inspiron Zino HD 410 - Bluray option http://www.dell.com/ca/p/inspiron-zino-hd-410/fs Wondering if this will play SC2? AMD Phenom™ II X4 P920 (1.6GHz/2MB cache) Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Up to 6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333Mhz - 2 DIMMS 750GB4 SATA hard drive (7200RPM) ATI HD5450 Mobility RadeonTM Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo Drive (BD-ROM, DVD/CD Burner) I can get it for just over $1k taxes in and shipping with my corporate discount. I'm having trouble understanding the point of a form factor half way between a desktop and a laptop . . . Is it supposed to be a laptop that's a pain in the ass to move, or a desktop that uses shitty components and is expensive and sucks? | ||
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FragKrag
United States11563 Posts
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s0ftHanDs
Canada10 Posts
Hmm.. sucks, I was really hoping this would play SC2.... sigh. It said the process was quad core... and it is the more expensive option, with the processor before it being AMD Athlon™ II X2 P320 (2.1GHz/1MB cache).... Sigh.. any one have an HTPC recommendations then? | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On October 06 2010 00:54 ggofthejungle wrote: For a decade since I had my first computer I've had only the cheapest, most low-end computers possible. I've been missing out on games, HD video, etc. I'm sick of it. I can barely run SC2 on min graphics settings. 4v4s are a joke on my computer. If I'm buying a 1000 dollar computer every 2 years that runs games on min, I might as well get a 3000 dollar computer that will last me for 6 years and run games on high. Same money spent long term, but more satisfaction(short and long term). It's time for a new computer that doesn't get outdated too soon. Here are my requirements: 1)A 6 core processor. I don't want to risk overclocking it. 2) A high-end video card, but no Dual/SLI/Crossfire because it consumes too much power; I heard ATI cards eat less power than Nvidia; is that true? 3) The most RAM I can get (12GB seems the max available right now); 4)SSD - is 40GB not enough for that price though? 5)I don't care about the secondary hard drive - I won't use the full 2TB. I back up everything on external hard drives anyway. 500GB is enough for me. 2TB is overkill. Other than gaming(plenty of 3D) I also work with Adobe Flash and Photoshop(no 3D though). I will want to dual-boot. The initial cost is not a problem, but I don't want it to eat up more than $50 of electricity monthly. I finally have the money to buy something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227251 I definitely want a computer that will be usable for gaming in 3-4 years, so I'm aiming high. I don't feel like upgrading just 1-2 parts since in 3-4 years I'll have to upgrade the motherboard, too. Money is not really a problem but if there's something better that I could get for this money, please tell. I even considered getting a server to play games on, but those are really expensive. Is it that rig worth the money though? Also, I don't want to build it myself and when it gets shipped find out that SSD doesn't work with the motherboard or something stupid like that. I'd rather buy it already built so I know it works. Is there something better out there? I feel like that's MASSIVE overkill for a gaming computer, although tbh I'm just replacing my gaming computer NOW (as in building it yesterday) from my $2,500 rig I got in Dec 2006. Note it couldn't handle even high (let alone ultra) gfx on games like Crysis, and it can only run SC2 on low (well medium with hiccups, which is fine if you're casual). | ||
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