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TooN
1046 Posts
But I would like to use it for gaming SC2, Skyrim, Battlefied or any future games that I can run smoothly. I can get a i52500k for $180 I am very uncertain on what parts are compatible and what works well. I need suggestions on the Motherboard, Graphics card, Power supply and other smaller components. Help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks!  | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
I assume you meant 800 dollars for only those three? Not sure what "smaller" components are. They are all kind of important. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:42 TooN wrote: Hey guys I have $800 to spend. I can spend about 100 dollars over for leeway. But I would like to use it for gaming SC2, Skyrim, Battlefied or any future games that I can run smoothly. I can get a i52500k for $180 I am very uncertain on what parts are compatible and what works well. I need suggestions on the Motherboard, Graphics card, Power supply and other smaller components. Help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks! right now, p67 motherboard, cheapest 8gb ram you can find, gtx560ti, a decent psu like antec high current gamer 520 or similar, case is your choice, you can get a crucial m4 SSD along with the cheapest 7200RPM with enough space you can find | ||
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Nuwen
United States31 Posts
My budget needs to cover a full machine and a new monitor; I plan on spending ~$180-230 on a nice 25-27'' during Holiday sale season. Not sure what native resolution I'll be running at first (1920 x 1200 sounds about right). I will be adding a second monitor to the setup later on. The machine will be used for general gaming (mostly low-spec RTS like LoL and SC2, but should also make eyecandy games like Witcher 2 or Skyrim look like a wonderland), HD streaming, and digital art (Photoshop, some Blender). My upgrade cycle is adaptable. I'm willing to spend a little more on expensive components now if no big upgrades are predicted for ~12-16 months. I'd like my GPU and CPU to be current enough to avoid upgrades for at least 12 months after purchase. I'm buying/building over the next month, hoping to take advantage of holiday sales on newegg-featured GPUs and stuff. I would like to sit down and play with my new computer by December ~20-25. I don't know whether I could overclock or not - I understand how to overclock a component and am willing to do so if it means a performance boost on a less-expensive piece vs. a factory-clocked piece. I have my eye on this GPU, which handily meets all of my gaming requirements. I don't think I need a crossfire setup, but am open to advice - should I be looking for 2 16x PCI3 slots on a mobo for future upgrades, or will the single card be suitable for my needs? I've created a rough wishlist here: hhttp://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22503267 | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:24 Nuwen wrote: I've created a rough wishlist here: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=22503267 This link doesn't work, I get a login-page when I click it. I don't think you're able to share personal wishlists with others on that site. | ||
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Nuwen
United States31 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:33 Rannasha wrote: This link doesn't work, I get a login-page when I click it. I don't think you're able to share personal wishlists with others on that site. Fixed the link in my post. Should be http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22503267 for the public version, whoops. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 30 2011 01:24 Nuwen wrote: Best bang for buck eh? Well:Heya. I'm looking to build myself a new Christmas present - budget is between 1100-1400 USD, but I'm trying to spend as little as possible while maximizing the performance of my machine (duh). My budget needs to cover a full machine and a new monitor; I plan on spending ~$180-230 on a nice 25-27'' during Holiday sale season. Not sure what native resolution I'll be running at first (1920 x 1200 sounds about right). I will be adding a second monitor to the setup later on. The machine will be used for general gaming (mostly low-spec RTS like LoL and SC2, but should also make eyecandy games like Witcher 2 or Skyrim look like a wonderland), HD streaming, and digital art (Photoshop, some Blender). My upgrade cycle is adaptable. I'm willing to spend a little more on expensive components now if no big upgrades are predicted for ~12-16 months. I'd like my GPU and CPU to be current enough to avoid upgrades for at least 12 months after purchase. I'm buying/building over the next month, hoping to take advantage of holiday sales on newegg-featured GPUs and stuff. I would like to sit down and play with my new computer by December ~20-25. I don't know whether I could overclock or not - I understand how to overclock a component and am willing to do so if it means a performance boost on a less-expensive piece vs. a factory-clocked piece. I have my eye on this GPU, which handily meets all of my gaming requirements. I don't think I need a crossfire setup, but am open to advice - should I be looking for 2 16x PCI3 slots on a mobo for future upgrades, or will the single card be suitable for my needs? I've created a rough wishlist here: https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=22503267 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62249&vpn=GV-N570OC-13I Rev2.0&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1055 330 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57960&vpn=BX80623I72600K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1055 300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251 100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 25 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&vpn=BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1363 40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 16 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59339&vpn=EA650Green&manufacture=Antec 52 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 113 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 26 Costs about 1000$, doesn't include a mechanical hard drive or a monitor. You can change the 2600k to a 2500k if you can find a good deal on one / don't think it's worth it but seeing as you seem to be doing things that could make use of hyperthreading and that the deal is quite good, it might be worth it. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:18 Nuwen wrote: Fixed the link in my post. Should be http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22503267 for the public version, whoops. Your configuration does not make sense if you are trying to maximize performance per dollar. You are wasting an extra $100 on a core i7 2600k for hyperthreading even though the majority games cannot utilize eight threads, most don't even utilize four yet. A core i5 2500k would give you equal performance as a core i7 2600k in probably every game you play. PCI-E 3.0 requires Ivybridge to work so you would need to upgrade to a core i5 3570k next year. So a PCI-E 3.0 motherboard is essentially useless. You probably don't want a Radeon HD6970. I think the new GTX 560 Ti 448 makes both the GTX 570 and 6970 obsolete choices. Spending $50 on memory is stupid when 8gb cas9 1333MHz kits are available for $30-$40. Don't get a GTX 570 as Shikyo suggested. That card is an obsolete choice. GTX 560 Ti 448 performs similar to it and is priced lower. Remain with the Radeon HD6970 or get the GTX 560 Ti 448 instead. Corsair GS600 is a poor choice. A Corsair TX650V2 is basically the same price and performs better. Not to mention there are countless other power supplies that are better at the same price range. You're also missing an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking. I would suggest the Asrock Z68 Extreme3 if you plan on doing CrossfireX, it's simply a better board than the MSI's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:42 skyR wrote: Don't get a GTX 570 as Shikyo suggested. That card is an obsolete choice. GTX 560 Ti 448 performs similar to it and is priced lower. Remain with the Radeon HD6970 or get the GTX 560 Ti 448 instead. Oh man I totally forgot that card <_< Yeah don't get GTX 570, though the general idea about the amount of funds you'd be looking to allocate on the graphics card would be around there. edit: Wait where do you see 560 448s pricing? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:55 skyR wrote: It's MSRP is $289. EVGA and Zotac are both selling for $300. Mmm yeah, 5% less performance for 10% less price, sounds good. I expect GTX 570 prices to drop though. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 30 2011 02:57 Shikyo wrote: Mmm yeah, 5% less performance for 10% less price, sounds good. I expect GTX 570 prices to drop though. Why would they? GTX 560 Ti 448 is only a limited edition that's expected to be produced for the next two months or so. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On November 27 2011 07:48 Eufouria wrote: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? £600-800 not including money for a monitor or any peripherals. What is your resolution? Well I want a new monitor as well, at least 1680x1050 but I'd prefer 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Gaming will be the only activity that really stresses the computer, I wouldn't mind the capability to stream in the future but if it adds a lot of cost that doesn't really matter. Right now just SC2, Skyrim and maybe SWTOR but I'd like to be able to play new games like Diablo 3 on high, if not maxed, graphics. What is your upgrade cycle? I'm not really sure, it would be nice if all I needed was a new graphics card when my computer can't run the latest games so well any more. When do you plan on building it? I'll be buying the parts within the next week or so. Do you plan on overclocking? I'll overclock the CPU, I don't know about anything else though I'm a nub when it comes to hardware. Do you need an Operating System? Yes, but I can get a student discount. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Probably not, maybe as an upgrade. Where are you buying your parts from? The cheapest place. Since I'm in the UK that's probably UK and maybe Europe based sites. + Show Spoiler [Here is my current plan] + CPU Intel i5-2500k http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NNW/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1322344851&sr=1-2 Motherboard Gigabyte Z68XP-UD3 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-Z68XP-UD3-SKT-1155-Z68XP-UD3-Motherboard/dp/B0055057HG/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1322344898&sr=1-1 RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-Ripjaws-DDR3-1600-Dual/dp/B002V2R8VY/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1322344232&sr=1-5 GPU I'm not sure here, it seems like my choice is between the HD6870, the GTX 560, the GTX 560 Ti and the HD6950 depending on how much I want to spend and which games I want to play. Power Supply Corsair 650TX V2 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-650TXV2UK-Enthusiast-Performance-Supply/dp/B004O0P9TO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322345099&sr=8-1 Case No idea here there seems to be so much choice. HSF Cooler Master Hyper 212+ http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Plus/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322345139&sr=8-1 [HD Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-WD1002FAEX-Caviar-Internal/dp/B0036Q7MV0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322345180&sr=8-1 This might be harder to get because of the floods, I want a big HD but if I can't get this I might have to settle for something else, so other reconsiderations would be great. I'd like an SSD, but I'm not sure if I can justify the price/performance it brings and I'm guessing its not the easiest thing to add in later, other users thoughts on this would be great. So this adds up to £560 excluding a GPU and a case. It seems like its computer problem time for my whole family at the moment, so while I'm posting this I may as well ask these questions. My Dad is looking for a new laptop for work, he's currently got some sort of 15" Dell Inspiron with a Core 2 Duo but he needs an upgrade so I said I'd help him so he wouldn't get stuck with another shitty computer for however long (too long) that he decides to put up with it. He says his 15" is a bit too big so I'm thinking a 13" laptop with an i5 processor, 4GB RAM and at least 500GB of HD space, preferably with at least 8 hours of battery life, but obviously the longer the better. The problem for me is there are so many laptops that fit this description and I have no idea about mobile processors. I was thinking this or this what do you guys think? I didn't get an answer in a few pages, so I'm reposting this. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
SSD is just plug and play like a HDD. It'll just be a little inconvenience as you reinstall the operating system and other things on it. I'm not sure why you are getting a Caviar Black. Other 7200 RPM HDDs such as the Caviar Blue performs similar and you're just paying extra for two extra years of warranty on the Caviar Black - right now, it makes no sense to do so because the premium is huge. Asrock Z68 Extreme3 is similarly priced and would be a better pick than the Gigabyte: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Z68-Extreme3-Motherboard-PCI-Express-ASRock/dp/B005FGQLQQ/ If you're not going to play on max settings (I mean absolute max with AA/AF) or Eyefinity, a multi-GPU configuration is useless. If you do plan on doing either, you'll probably want a Radeon HD6950 2GB. | ||
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Nuwen
United States31 Posts
Talk to me about IvyBridge architecture; I know it's a future upgrade to SandyBridge - I should be looking for a budget i5 2500k w/ Sandybridge and pencil in a CPU upgrade a year down the road? I'll check out all the components listed above and try to come back with more specialized questions. Thanks again, ilu TL. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Check the ultra portable section perhaps? Also with 2500k it's not likely you're going to need to upgrade the CPU until in like 4-5 years. 4 year old core 2s are still pretty good | ||
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Panthae
Canada205 Posts
 What is your budget? 800 - 900$ What is your resolution? As I said, I'm not too sure when it comes to comps, but I'm planning on having some full HD, so you guys decide what resolution is best for HD on a 24ish inch monitor. What are you using it for? I'm mostly going to use it for gaming. A little bit of 3d and photoshop work is possible, so I'd like that to run decently. What is your upgrade cycle? Long. I don't want to screw around with this computer too often. Perhaps once every 12-18 months when necessary to play the latest and greatest games, other than that I'd like something solid off the bat. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? Probably. Do you need an Operating System? I do not. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Honestly have no idea what this is, I just want to play Skyrim with all the graphics maxed. Where are you buying your parts from? I live in Montreal, so I'll be buying my parts from Canada! Thanks alot for the answer guys. I've been lurking around ibuypower for a week and most of the stuff on there is way over my head! <3 | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:02 Nuwen wrote: Thanks for the feedback, guys. I've only read a few articles on Tom's hardware (mostly "best x-component in the $-$$$ range" reviews), so I don't really know what I'm looking for/at. I'll read up a little on hyperthreading - all I know is that it needs OS support (Windows 7 64-bit), and isn't going to be a big thing until DirectX 11 becomes common. I DO play games with DirectX 11 support - just bought Arkham City, for example. Talk to me about IvyBridge architecture; I know it's a future upgrade to SandyBridge - I should be looking for a budget i5 2500k w/ Sandybridge and pencil in a CPU upgrade a year down the road? I'll check out all the components listed above and try to come back with more specialized questions. Thanks again, ilu TL. Well hyperthreading has been around since the Pentium 4 days, the problem is that games simply cannot make use of it. Not at the moment anyway, and it doesn't have anything to do with DX11. And DX11 is fairly common though you would be correct in thinking that DX9 is the ol standby. Ivy bridge is the exact same CPU architecture as Sandy bridge, just with a die shrink and some rearrangements. A die shrink means that the processor will consume less power, and has the potential to be faster, with more overclockability. Intel claims 20 percent increase on Ivy Bridge but I would not bet the farm on it. Mainly you are banking on the fact that Ivy Bridge will consume less power for the exact same performance. So if you bought an i5 2500 now, I think you will be quite pleased as to how well it will hold up for the rest of socket 1155's life. That being said, if you DO decide to upgrade to Ivy Bridge, you totally can. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 30 2011 05:02 Nuwen wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Thanks for the feedback, guys. I've only read a few articles on Tom's hardware (mostly "best x-component in the $-$$$ range" reviews), so I don't really know what I'm looking for/at. I'll read up a little on hyperthreading - all I know is that it needs OS support (Windows 7 64-bit), and isn't going to be a big thing until DirectX 11 becomes common. I DO play games with DirectX 11 support - just bought Arkham City, for example. Talk to me about IvyBridge architecture; I know it's a future upgrade to SandyBridge - I should be looking for a budget i5 2500k w/ Sandybridge and pencil in a CPU upgrade a year down the road? I'll check out all the components listed above and try to come back with more specialized questions. Thanks again, ilu TL. Hyperthreading will never be big for gaming. If in some miracle, the next generation consoles has eight cores in them and developers actually start taking full advantage of it - we'll have affordable hex and octo cores by the time that the market is fully saturated by games that take advantage of eight threads. A core i7 2600k will in no doubt be useless by that time. Ivybridge is a die-shrink to Sandybridge. There is very little point in upgrading from a core i5 2500k to a core i5 3570k. And tomshardware isn't exactly a great website. | ||
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