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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#15461
On November 30 2011 09:46 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 03:01 Shikyo wrote:
Well because they probably want people to buy the card over 560 Ti 448 =) Either that or the 448s price to raise I should have said... actually it's more likely it won't ever reach 289$


MSRP may be $289, but right now the price is massively inflated... on NCIX, none of the models cost less than $329. You can get a Gigabyte GTX 570 Windforce for only $309, so I suppose the prices will have to come down considerably... or they'll jack GTX 570 prices up.

Question is if GTX 560 Ti 448 prices can drop enough to tempt holiday buyers away from a cheaper HD 6950 or waiting for an HD 7000 series card. At current, the price is astronomically high. at $280-$290... it would be a very tempting buy indeed.

Well in europe 560 Ti 448s cost more than the cheapest 570s as well, I was just trying to be diplomatic, actually I was kind of annoyed that skyr just says my advice is wrong and then quotes MSRP -.-
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Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 01:03:29
November 30 2011 01:01 GMT
#15462
On November 30 2011 09:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 09:46 Gara wrote:
On November 30 2011 03:01 Shikyo wrote:
Well because they probably want people to buy the card over 560 Ti 448 =) Either that or the 448s price to raise I should have said... actually it's more likely it won't ever reach 289$


MSRP may be $289, but right now the price is massively inflated... on NCIX, none of the models cost less than $329. You can get a Gigabyte GTX 570 Windforce for only $309, so I suppose the prices will have to come down considerably... or they'll jack GTX 570 prices up.

Question is if GTX 560 Ti 448 prices can drop enough to tempt holiday buyers away from a cheaper HD 6950 or waiting for an HD 7000 series card. At current, the price is astronomically high. at $280-$290... it would be a very tempting buy indeed.

Well in europe 560 Ti 448s cost more than the cheapest 570s as well, I was just trying to be diplomatic, actually I was kind of annoyed that skyr just says my advice is wrong and then quotes MSRP -.-


Well, it appears I was wrong... You can find the GTX 560 Ti 448 on directcanada.com for $300... That's definitely cheaper than any GTX 570. Maybe Nvidia does know what it's doing =P

Although I wonder if the availability issue will drive the prices up, since it is a limited edition card... Directcanada only has 1 560-448 card in stock right now, and I don't mean only 1 brand... I literally mean one (1) card.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 30 2011 01:03 GMT
#15463
On November 30 2011 10:01 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 09:56 Shikyo wrote:
On November 30 2011 09:46 Gara wrote:
On November 30 2011 03:01 Shikyo wrote:
Well because they probably want people to buy the card over 560 Ti 448 =) Either that or the 448s price to raise I should have said... actually it's more likely it won't ever reach 289$


MSRP may be $289, but right now the price is massively inflated... on NCIX, none of the models cost less than $329. You can get a Gigabyte GTX 570 Windforce for only $309, so I suppose the prices will have to come down considerably... or they'll jack GTX 570 prices up.

Question is if GTX 560 Ti 448 prices can drop enough to tempt holiday buyers away from a cheaper HD 6950 or waiting for an HD 7000 series card. At current, the price is astronomically high. at $280-$290... it would be a very tempting buy indeed.

Well in europe 560 Ti 448s cost more than the cheapest 570s as well, I was just trying to be diplomatic, actually I was kind of annoyed that skyr just says my advice is wrong and then quotes MSRP -.-


Well, it appears I was wrong... You can find the GTX 560 Ti 448 on directcanada.com for $300... That's definitely cheaper than any GTX 570. Maybe Nvidia does know what it's doing =P

Now just bring them to europe! =D

Currently cheapest GTX 570 276€ cheapest 560 Ti 448 284€ -___________-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
November 30 2011 01:17 GMT
#15464
On November 30 2011 10:03 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 10:01 Gara wrote:
On November 30 2011 09:56 Shikyo wrote:
On November 30 2011 09:46 Gara wrote:
On November 30 2011 03:01 Shikyo wrote:
Well because they probably want people to buy the card over 560 Ti 448 =) Either that or the 448s price to raise I should have said... actually it's more likely it won't ever reach 289$


MSRP may be $289, but right now the price is massively inflated... on NCIX, none of the models cost less than $329. You can get a Gigabyte GTX 570 Windforce for only $309, so I suppose the prices will have to come down considerably... or they'll jack GTX 570 prices up.

Question is if GTX 560 Ti 448 prices can drop enough to tempt holiday buyers away from a cheaper HD 6950 or waiting for an HD 7000 series card. At current, the price is astronomically high. at $280-$290... it would be a very tempting buy indeed.

Well in europe 560 Ti 448s cost more than the cheapest 570s as well, I was just trying to be diplomatic, actually I was kind of annoyed that skyr just says my advice is wrong and then quotes MSRP -.-


Well, it appears I was wrong... You can find the GTX 560 Ti 448 on directcanada.com for $300... That's definitely cheaper than any GTX 570. Maybe Nvidia does know what it's doing =P

Now just bring them to europe! =D

Currently cheapest GTX 570 276€ cheapest 560 Ti 448 284€ -___________-


http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_wgfx_pcie_puis_ref_est_in10049787.html

gtx570 for 269€ (only for france/belgium though)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 30 2011 01:19 GMT
#15465
missing the point man -.-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
November 30 2011 01:20 GMT
#15466
I know the point just saying you can find them cheaper then that in europe
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 02:41:15
November 30 2011 02:30 GMT
#15467
Is this case decent for an under 50$ case? Just looking at reviews and a brief glance over seems like it has all that I need, but I'd like to double check.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129074

Edit: Fitted in with an i5 2500k and 6870 (http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57118&vpn=AX6870%201GBD5-2DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1055) along with (I think) a P67 Mobo.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#15468
It's mostly the same I think, but the Antec One Hundred is newer and a bit nicer, for the same price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129098

If $50 is okay, there's the HAF 912, which has a better layout and features and a bit different aesthetics (I would say worse, but I'm not the one buying).

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1055

There's free shipping on orders above $50, which that is not...so perhaps you would need filler to bring it to $50 to get free shipping if this is all you're getting? I'm just guessing how it works. Get a cheapo cable or maybe something else potentially useful while you're at it. e.g.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=20770&promoid=1055
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
November 30 2011 02:44 GMT
#15469
It's my friends computer, and he still needs the graphics card as well, so I could probably convince him to buy both of them at the same time. He misplaced a few of the parts in my opinion (Spent more on his CPU than GPU etc.) so I'm trying to help squeeze what he has left out efficiently, but y'all know much more than me ^^
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 30 2011 03:20 GMT
#15470
So apparently AMD is giving up on the losing battle with Intel and will be refocusing its efforts on another lost battle, the mobile front. Shrug... -.-'

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19358655
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 30 2011 05:49 GMT
#15471
Intel has been stepping into anti-trust problems since the 80's.

Intel Fortran compiler intentionally takes terrible code paths when in the presence of am AMD processor. Even AMD's own Core Math Kernel functions better when the CPUID is changed to genuineIntel!

And lets be serious, Fortran is the only compiler out there. Intel and AMD are just way too entangled for AMD to come out ahead. And why not? AMD has been riding Intel's coattails as well. Neither of these two are without blame, and the consumer pays for it. If we had true fair play between these two we would probably in a totally new technological renaissance by now.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 30 2011 06:03 GMT
#15472
Why not? If AMD can't compete with Intel, do you honestly think they have a chance at competing against Nvidia, Apple, Samsung, Qualcomm, and all the other manufacturers? I fear for their survival.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 30 2011 06:20 GMT
#15473
AMD can't compete with Intel because the current technological paradigm relies on Intel to even enter the competition (Fortran Compiler). So yes I think they can if the playing field was more level than it is right now.

At the moment any competitor serious enough to threaten Intel will just be crippled by poor compilation until a new one that is better than Intel's is invented.

ATI/AMD should be competitive with nVidia for awhile. Comparing Apple to AMD is unfair because no one knows what Apple is going to be like without Jobs at the helm.

As for Samsung and Qualcomm, I think direct competition is suicide.
twitch.tv/medrea
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
November 30 2011 06:21 GMT
#15474
Can someone take a look at a build my friend put up for me? Planning to build this soon

Case COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $102.35
Mobo Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 $217.35
CPU Intel sandy bridge Core i5 2500 $282.90
RAM KINGSTON 4GB kit Gaming HyperX 1600MHz x2 $126.50
GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS $429.00
HDD Seagate 1TB Barracuda $194.35
Drive LG GH24NS70 24X $35.00
PSU COOLER MASTER GX 650W $171.35

$1558 NZD total.

Also, I can only get my parts from http://pbtech.co.nz/ as I live in New Zealand, just wondering if this is worth it or not, thanks :D
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 06:51:04
November 30 2011 06:30 GMT
#15475
Comparing Apple to AMD is unfair because no one knows what Apple is going to be like without Jobs at the helm


Don't take a genius to know that Apple is fine without Jobs. Tim Cook or Jonny Ive are more important to Apple than Steve Jobs is considering Tim Cook is like the reason why ultrabooks and tablets can't compete with Apple in an all out price war and Jonny Ive is the main designer of Apple's products.

Steve Jobs' existence was to make sure Apple didn't do anything retarded like 90's Apple, 2000's Sony, or Samsung often like to do. Since his life's work was to build a corporate culture to prevent that from happening, I don't see Apple going anywhere. If anything, because all other technology companies are so awful and operate through the Dell model they're going to keep growing.

On November 30 2011 15:30 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 12:20 skyR wrote:
So apparently AMD is giving up on the losing battle with Intel and will be refocusing its efforts on another lost battle, the mobile front. Shrug... -.-'

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19358655


This just makes me worry that AMD is going to spread its limited resources too thin... they're just going to be mediocre and non-competitive in every market - they're making their own RAM now, which isn't exactly a lucrative, high-margin product to begin with.


They're not making their own RAM. Its rebranded Patriot stuff. I think the idea is that they're going to pack high speed memory with their APUs: picking 1600mhz memory instead of the typical 1333mhz memory can improve Llano performance by like 10-20%.
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
November 30 2011 06:30 GMT
#15476
On November 30 2011 12:20 skyR wrote:
So apparently AMD is giving up on the losing battle with Intel and will be refocusing its efforts on another lost battle, the mobile front. Shrug... -.-'

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_19358655


This just makes me worry that AMD is going to spread its limited resources too thin... they're just going to be mediocre and non-competitive in every market - they're making their own RAM now, which isn't exactly a lucrative, high-margin product to begin with.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 30 2011 06:31 GMT
#15477
Those prices hurt O_O but yeah the build is decent I guess, the prices though >_< It'dprobably be cheaper to import
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
November 30 2011 06:35 GMT
#15478
On November 30 2011 15:21 GGitsJack wrote:
Can someone take a look at a build my friend put up for me? Planning to build this soon

Case COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $102.35
Mobo Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 $217.35
CPU Intel sandy bridge Core i5 2500 $282.90
RAM KINGSTON 4GB kit Gaming HyperX 1600MHz x2 $126.50
GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS $429.00
HDD Seagate 1TB Barracuda $194.35
Drive LG GH24NS70 24X $35.00
PSU COOLER MASTER GX 650W $171.35

$1558 NZD total.

Also, I can only get my parts from http://pbtech.co.nz/ as I live in New Zealand, just wondering if this is worth it or not, thanks :D


hehehe... for some reason, it amuses me endlessly that New Zealand has its own currency...
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
November 30 2011 06:44 GMT
#15479
On November 30 2011 15:35 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 15:21 GGitsJack wrote:
Can someone take a look at a build my friend put up for me? Planning to build this soon

Case COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $102.35
Mobo Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 $217.35
CPU Intel sandy bridge Core i5 2500 $282.90
RAM KINGSTON 4GB kit Gaming HyperX 1600MHz x2 $126.50
GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS $429.00
HDD Seagate 1TB Barracuda $194.35
Drive LG GH24NS70 24X $35.00
PSU COOLER MASTER GX 650W $171.35

$1558 NZD total.

Also, I can only get my parts from http://pbtech.co.nz/ as I live in New Zealand, just wondering if this is worth it or not, thanks :D


hehehe... for some reason, it amuses me endlessly that New Zealand has its own currency...


same with me and canada. i mean just use usd amirite
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
November 30 2011 06:46 GMT
#15480
On November 30 2011 15:21 GGitsJack wrote:
Can someone take a look at a build my friend put up for me? Planning to build this soon

Case COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $102.35
Mobo Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 $217.35
CPU Intel sandy bridge Core i5 2500 $282.90
RAM KINGSTON 4GB kit Gaming HyperX 1600MHz x2 $126.50
GPU EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS $429.00
HDD Seagate 1TB Barracuda $194.35
Drive LG GH24NS70 24X $35.00
PSU COOLER MASTER GX 650W $171.35

$1558 NZD total.

Also, I can only get my parts from http://pbtech.co.nz/ as I live in New Zealand, just wondering if this is worth it or not, thanks :D


Get the cheapest memory possible. Unless you really want to support Idra, there's no reason to spend so much some ricer gamer gear.

You can't overclock so just get something like this Asrock H61 motherboard.

Are you sure NZ doesn't have another retailer? The power supply options are...really bad. The Corsair CX500 is an OK choice (you don't need 650W) but I'm surprised there aren't any Antec PSUs in stock.
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