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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 21:57:40
November 29 2011 20:29 GMT
#15441
On November 30 2011 05:12 Panthae wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys! I've just got a nice bonus from work and am thinking of getting a new Gaming PC, as I can barely run Warcraft III on my old one right now. I want to play Skyrim with the graphics maxed, BF3 with the graphics high. I'm not much of an expert in the matter, so I'm coming to the pros for some answers! I'd honestly appreciate whoever is answering to send me the build by PM, as it is I feel lost when I read the thread sometimes because too many people get answered on a page and discussions go off topic into debates and stuff! In agreement with the guidelines here's what I need!

What is your budget?
800 - 900$

What is your resolution?
As I said, I'm not too sure when it comes to comps, but I'm planning on having some full HD, so you guys decide what resolution is best for HD on a 24ish inch monitor.

What are you using it for?
I'm mostly going to use it for gaming. A little bit of 3d and photoshop work is possible, so I'd like that to run decently.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Long. I don't want to screw around with this computer too often. Perhaps once every 12-18 months when necessary to play the latest and greatest games, other than that I'd like something solid off the bat.

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Probably.

Do you need an Operating System?
I do not.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Honestly have no idea what this is, I just want to play Skyrim with all the graphics maxed.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Montreal, so I'll be buying my parts from Canada!

Thanks alot for the answer guys. I've been lurking around ibuypower for a week and most of the stuff on there is way over my head!

<3



Poor timing on your part. You missed a lot of good deals from Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales.

For a new ~24" monitor, you'll want 1920x1080 or 1920x1200.

Here's a configuration for $854 before mail in rebates:

If you want it pre-assembled, you can pay $50: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220 (pricematch with http://www.b-com.ca/product.php?productid=228906&page=1 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962

MSI P67A G43 @ $120 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD2727 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095

GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44267&promoid=1115

Seagate Barracuda 500gb @ $100
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/COOLERMASTER/RR_B10_212P_G1/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337

MSI Radeon HD6950 1GB Twin Frozr III @ $230 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64182&promoid=1115
Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $240 ($220 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58366&promoid=1115


Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1115

Antec Earthwatts 500 @ $50 (you'll need a power cord so you can re-use an existing one or buy one)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=47698&promoid=1115

DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204&promoid=1115
kunstderfugue
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico375 Posts
November 29 2011 20:56 GMT
#15442
Two questions:

1) Is there a chance that a GPU with PCIE 2.1 will work on a Motherboard with a PCIE 2.0 slot?

2) How do i know if a motherboard will be compatible with Ivy Bridge?

Thanks for the support
Old lamps for new!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 29 2011 21:09 GMT
#15443
PCI-E revisions are backwards and forward compatible.

Ivybridge is using the same socket so it's expected that most motherboards will have a bios update to support the newer processors.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 29 2011 21:31 GMT
#15444
On November 30 2011 05:56 kunstderfugue wrote:
Two questions:

1) Is there a chance that a GPU with PCIE 2.1 will work on a Motherboard with a PCIE 2.0 slot?

2) How do i know if a motherboard will be compatible with Ivy Bridge?

Thanks for the support


With exception to 2.1 being incompatible with 1.0 (an old standard) they are all compatible forwards and backwards. And any 1155 socket motherboard is compatible with Ivy Bridge.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
November 29 2011 21:59 GMT
#15445
I've been looking into upgrading my video card for a bit now. I currently have a Geforce 9800GT and it gets up to 70C during Dota2 im looking for a card thats around ~100 and could be able to run skyrim on high or medium settings and a 700w psu not 100% sure on brand.
Is this card any good seems like it has a good deal on it http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133322&cm_mmc=ET2011_listing-_-48-_-N82E16814133322&nm_mc=ET2011_listing
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 29 2011 22:03 GMT
#15446
A GTS 250 isn't much of an upgrade over your current 9800GT. A Radeon HD6770 or GTS 450 for around $110 is what you should aim for if you are seeking an upgrade.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 29 2011 22:09 GMT
#15447
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121479

try this
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
November 29 2011 22:19 GMT
#15448
On November 30 2011 07:03 skyR wrote:
A GTS 250 isn't much of an upgrade over your current 9800GT. A Radeon HD6770 or GTS 450 for around $110 is what you should aim for if you are seeking an upgrade.


On November 30 2011 07:09 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121479

try this


Cool thanks for the help guys.
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 29 2011 22:27 GMT
#15449
wtf when I posted the price was at 90$ now its 110$ lame
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
November 29 2011 22:31 GMT
#15450
On November 30 2011 07:27 Shikyo wrote:
wtf when I posted the price was at 90$ now its 110$ lame


Oh yeah look at that lol.

I thought something was wrong because i checked newegg for other prices (I know the CuCore 5770 was going for 90 dollars earlier in the year) and for some reason i couldnt find your card listed in that price range.
twitch.tv/medrea
RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
November 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#15451
Ey lo, so as my current computer starts to cough a little due to misuse (overclocking and in general it's on 24/7) and I'm starting to get close to 2year mark of it's life cycle. So I would like 2nd opinion from you guys on with what I should go with.

So as my time on home PC is divided by gaming, coding and 3d-modeling/texture editing, I'm looking for good middle ground between workhorse and gaming computer. Also I do like to make fool of my self by streaming my attempts at getting better in SC2 and LoL. Also I do make screencasting of 3d modeling process (modeling, texturing, rigging and animation).

I have 2 options what I've been considering, keeping my current processor i7 940 (which is healthy still) and get new mobo (replacing ASRock x58 extreme) and get faster HDDs and possibly SSD drive for games.

Currently I am running with 12GB (3x 4gb triple channel) of memory, while working on some project my memory usage can peak around 11GB but usually not going past 8gb and not even close when playing something. Which is why I am not sure if I should actually jump from x58 to current chipset yet, and if I do I would be most likely increasing total memory up to 16GB (which in my case wouldn't be too great investment) to take full advantage of dual memory channel. And yeah I am looking for intel based system, have had too many bad experiences with amd products.

What comes to graphics card, my GTX470 is still enough for my usage, as I can live with bit lower graphics quality if needed.
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 29 2011 22:47 GMT
#15452
Unless your motherboard is faulty, there is no reason to replace it. If you want a faster drive, you'll need a SSD - please don't consider a stupid Raptor or Caviar Black.

Going from triple channel to dual channel will be a step backwards - I hope you know this.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 29 2011 22:57 GMT
#15453
huh, you have a i7 940 and 12gb ram... what are you even considering buying to make it worthwhile? 3960X? That should last you like 3 more years easily
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
November 29 2011 23:55 GMT
#15454
so i'm looking to buy a cpu which provides a tremendous upgrade path and can run sc2 low with at least 60fps - during both small and big scale battles in 1v1. and i found a g620 for $53. is it a steal? i already have a 4650 equivalent gpu
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 29 2011 23:58 GMT
#15455
On November 30 2011 08:55 billy5000 wrote:
so i'm looking to buy a cpu which provides a tremendous upgrade path and can run sc2 low with at least 60fps - during both small and big scale battles in 1v1. and i found a g620 for $53. is it a steal? i already have a 4650 equivalent gpu


I'm not sure if I'd call that much off a "steal" but certainly that's a better than typical deal. Go ahead and get it, if you're sticking to that ~$200 total upgrade budget and prefer lowest costs if possible.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
November 29 2011 23:59 GMT
#15456
or should i get a g530 for 45 bucks? using this chart http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html there doesn't seem to be a huge difference. what exactly do these numbers mean anyway?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 30 2011 00:01 GMT
#15457
Passmark is a synthetic bench, a very crap one. Synthetic numbers don't mean shit unless you are doing synthetic benching yourself.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 30 2011 00:06 GMT
#15458
Both are okay at those prices.

Those are just benchmark scores (and sometimes there are weird inconsistencies, leading to incorrect results being posted). It's like looking at cars and sorting them by fastest 0-60 mph times: just one way to look at the performance. Inaccurate results aside, other benchmarks will correlate more with gaming performance.

Like many other benchmarks, that PassMark one has results that scale evenly with the number of cores (most games including SC2 do not). Thus, some processors may have much higher benchmark scores yet run slower in many games than the processors you are looking at.
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 00:52:54
November 30 2011 00:46 GMT
#15459
On November 30 2011 03:01 Shikyo wrote:
Well because they probably want people to buy the card over 560 Ti 448 =) Either that or the 448s price to raise I should have said... actually it's more likely it won't ever reach 289$


MSRP may be $289, but right now the price is massively inflated... on NCIX, none of the models cost less than $329. You can get a Gigabyte GTX 570 Windforce for only $309, so I suppose the prices will have to come down considerably... or they'll jack GTX 570 prices up.

Question is if GTX 560 Ti 448 prices can drop enough to tempt holiday buyers away from a cheaper HD 6950 or waiting for an HD 7000 series card. At current, the price is astronomically high. at $280-$290... it would be a very tempting buy indeed.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
November 30 2011 00:51 GMT
#15460
My friend, who lives in the US, is looking to purchase a laptop which is able to run SC2 on ultra (he plays a lot of 2v2s and 3v3s btw) and possibly Diablo 3 on max settings when its released. His budget is $1300, and he prefers to make the purchase online from sites like Amazon or Newegg. Any idea what he should be getting?

Thanks!
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