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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Gladiator/Gladiator Hellspawn Intel Core i5-2500K @ 4.40GHz DDR3 Gaming PC ?productId=47217 They already offer this for that kind of a price, which is even reasonable. The price of the 8150 rig is just ridiculous. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 16 2011 10:23 Shikyo wrote: SC2 runs on low possibly medium, skyrim might barely run at 30 fps Really? That's disappointing... all the benchmarks have it a bit higher than that. Alright, thanks | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:32 Alryk wrote: Really? That's disappointing... all the benchmarks have it a bit higher than that. Alright, thanks Well, depends on what you think is playable I guess... | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Mordoc
United States162 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591 I can't quite tell if it is supposed to be a SSD or not, which is what I want. However, I only have a budget of $120-250, and most SSDs in that price range give me about 100gb, while I would prefer 400+ (I already have a normal HD for storage, if you are curious). Is this a good deal? Or more of a scam...? | ||
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CharlieBrownsc
Canada598 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:54 Alryk wrote: I was looking at benchmarks on notebookcheck.net mainly (as well as some randomly googled user listed benchmarks) that compared it to the 555m and also mentioned it able to play games decently, medium/high at above 30 fps. Might have been less than what I was hoping for though. I wouldn't trust user submitted benchmarks. A 555m (the good version, there are two) can play sc2 on ultra, and I play skyrim on medium/high on a 1080p screen with it | ||
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CharlieBrownsc
Canada598 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:59 Mordoc wrote: What does anyone think of this hard drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591 I can't quite tell if it is supposed to be a SSD or not, which is what I want. However, I only have a budget of $120-250, and most SSDs in that price range give me about 100gb, while I would prefer 400+ (I already have a normal HD for storage, if you are curious). Is this a good deal? Or more of a scam...? A) You will not find a 400+GB SSD that is remotly reasonably priced B) It it not an SSD, it is a 7200RPM HDD, it says so in the title, and multiple times in the decription | ||
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Mordoc
United States162 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:01 CharlieBrownsc wrote: A) You will not find a 400+GB SSD that is remotly reasonably priced B) It it not an SSD, it is a 7200RPM HDD, it says so in the title, and multiple times in the decription Hmm, then other tahn the increased speeds almost all around, what gives for the massive increase in price from internal HDDs to internal SSD? Do I need to have 200+gb of space on a SSD if I have a storage HDD? Some posts (everywhere) indicate that you only need to have your OS and a few other things on your SSD, and rest can be on HDD with any suffering in the speed department. Is this accurate at all? | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:59 CharlieBrownsc wrote: I wouldn't trust user submitted benchmarks. A 555m (the good version, there are two) can play sc2 on ultra, and I play skyrim on medium/high on a 1080p screen with it Yeah, I didn't use those as my basis for information, they were just kind of an on the side thing. I am fortunate enough to know that users often aren't the best (unless they're from TL here of course  ) but in general I try to stick to the more known sites. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 16 2011 11:59 CharlieBrownsc wrote: I wouldn't trust user submitted benchmarks. A 555m (the good version, there are two) can play sc2 on ultra, and I play skyrim on medium/high on a 1080p screen with it I highly doubt that, 555M is an underclocked GT 440 and that's a piss-poor card that loses to like, 6570. Not to mention it was about 6750 which is far weaker, at the level of 540M | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:05 Mordoc wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 12:01 CharlieBrownsc wrote: A) You will not find a 400+GB SSD that is remotly reasonably priced B) It it not an SSD, it is a 7200RPM HDD, it says so in the title, and multiple times in the decription Hmm, then other tahn the increased speeds almost all around, what gives for the massive increase in price from internal HDDs to internal SSD? Do I need to have 200+gb of space on a SSD if I have a storage HDD? Some posts (everywhere) indicate that you only need to have your OS and a few other things on your SSD, and rest can be on HDD with any suffering in the speed department. Is this accurate at all? Media and documents do not need the speed provided by the SSD. I'm not sure why you think they do as they already open instantly. Only applications that are accessed regularly need to be on the SSD. Flash memory is much more expensive than mechanical parts in the HDD. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:01 CharlieBrownsc wrote: A) You will not find a 400+GB SSD that is remotly reasonably priced B) It it not an SSD, it is a 7200RPM HDD, it says so in the title, and multiple times in the decription It's a hybrid drive, meaning it has a flash memory for cache. So faster than a usual 7200 rpm drive. On November 16 2011 12:05 Mordoc wrote: Hmm, then other tahn the increased speeds almost all around, what gives for the massive increase in price from internal HDDs to internal SSD? Do I need to have 200+gb of space on a SSD if I have a storage HDD? Some posts (everywhere) indicate that you only need to have your OS and a few other things on your SSD, and rest can be on HDD with any suffering in the speed department. Is this accurate at all? For the os + some programs and 1-2 games then 64 GB is enough. I'd go with 120 GB as it gives you a bit more room for non-gaming programs and a few more games (depending on how you use the computer). If you are really concerned about space you might go up to ~160 gb drive. More than that is not really needed and you'd have to pay a small fortune for it. If you have media and other similar files on you hdd then you won't notice any speed loss. As for games and such it depends on what hdd you have. Remember also that in multiplayer games you are often restricted by other players loading times so the beneficial with a ssd gets less. | ||
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
On November 15 2011 22:24 Shikyo wrote: Here's a good and overclockable build for 693,80€ without a hard drive, try to find a cheap one somewhere: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p688677_Intel-Core-i5-2500K-4x-3-30GHz-So-1155-BOX.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p729789_ASRock-P67-Pro3-Intel-P67-So-1155-Dual-Channel-DDR3-ATX.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p701577_1280MB-Palit-GeForce-GTX-570-Dual-Fan-Aktiv-PCIe-2-0-x16--Retail-.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p684665_Arctic-Cooling-Arctic-Freezer-13-Pro-1366-775-AM2-1156-AM3-939-7.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p721602_8GB-Corsair-Vengeance-DDR3-1600-DIMM-CL9-Dual-Kit.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p734345_BitFenix-Shinobi-Midi-Tower-schwarz.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p632644_550W-Super-Flower-Amazon-80--Bronze.html http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p741641_Samsung-DVD-plusmn-RW-SH-S222AB-SATA-bulk-schwarz.html 2500k with a P67 mobo, a CPU cooler, GTX 570. All the components are reasonably silent and shouldn't bother most people, but still I didn't really concentrate on that and went with more of a bang-for-buck approach. Overclocking's pretty easy, and it's completely stable and cool if you just stay below the ~1.35V. That's a super safe point for beginners and still easily capable of 4.5+ Ghz overclocking with that cooler. You have 250€ left in your budget for the hard drive. When bought new, they're currently around 100€ for 500gb and 150€ for 1TB. Their normal values are about 33,50€ for 500GB and 47€ for 1TB. Try your best to find either a used one, or get one for free from like your friends' or parents' work, or just use your old one until the prices go back to normal again. You can also choose to go for just an SSD, and then buy an additional storage drive later on. That still easily fits your budget, and might be the best option. Here's a decent, affordable option: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p740099_120GB-Corsair-Force-Series-3-CSSD-F120GB3-BK-2-5Zoll--6-4cm--SATA-6Gb-s-MLC-asynchron.html If you need an OS it's 73,30€ if you want the german version: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p725312_Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-SP1-64bit-Deutsch-SB-OEM.html Can someone tell me if the "1280MB Palit GeForce GTX 570 Dual Fan" is recommendable or if I should take another GTX 570 or even a HD 6950 version? I've read tons of reviews right now and I am still not quiet sure about the GPU :/ | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
Going with a hd 6950 isn't a bad choice either. They can run most current games at or near max at 1080p resolution. You could either save the money or put it towards something else you want. Since you asked about soundcards maybe getting a good pair of headphones/speakers might be a good idea. If it's the equivellent amd card to the gtx 570 you are after then the 6970 is closer in performance. For 6950 I think I'd go with this one (on that site): http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p746586_1024MB-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-6950-Dual-Fan-Aktiv-PCIe-2-0-x16--Lite-Retail-.html As for the brands of the cards you usually pay for custom heatsinks, factory oc's and warranties. For a single gpu solution the cooling is not really important as the regural cooling works fine and you can easily oc the cards themselves so no need to pay extra for someone else to do it for you. Warranty is up to you. | ||
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CHiPZ
Liechtenstein38 Posts
Country: Australia, sydney. Shops i know to buy so far. http://www.msy.com.au/default.jsp http://arc.com.au/pub.php MSY i7-2600K 1155 G-B H61M-USB3 8G Kit 1333 G.Skill Ripjaws-X 1G GTX560 gigabyte Coolermaster NV-692A-KWN2 Nvidia Edition Advanced II antec Sonata IV Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 1TB ST31000524AS SATA3 7200RPM 32MB 1085 Also if you know any better parts/ more cost-efficient/valuable please suggest. Or if any parts suck, also tell. Thanks! Note: i understand computers very well, just not the hardware specifications in detail as it is first time. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Motherboard Asus Z68-M-Pro Processor i5 2500k HDD 500GB Caviar Blue GPU HIS HD6950 Memory kit Gkill 1333mhz kit Case Fractal Design Define Mini Black PSU Antec HCG 520 CPU Cooler Hyper 212+ Total: $971 AUD from MSY You computer may require an upgrade or two if you want it to stay "relevant" but this should last you a good while. | ||
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Mordoc
United States162 Posts
On November 16 2011 16:49 nam nam wrote: It's a hybrid drive, meaning it has a flash memory for cache. So faster than a usual 7200 rpm drive. For the os + some programs and 1-2 games then 64 GB is enough. I'd go with 120 GB as it gives you a bit more room for non-gaming programs and a few more games (depending on how you use the computer). If you are really concerned about space you might go up to ~160 gb drive. More than that is not really needed and you'd have to pay a small fortune for it. If you have media and other similar files on you hdd then you won't notice any speed loss. As for games and such it depends on what hdd you have. Remember also that in multiplayer games you are often restricted by other players loading times so the beneficial with a ssd gets less. Media and documents do not need the speed provided by the SSD. I'm not sure why you think they do as they already open instantly. Only applications that are accessed regularly need to be on the SSD. Flash memory is much more expensive than mechanical parts in the HDD. Alright, thanks! I guess I still have to choose. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I wouldn't go for 6950, they're overpriced in comparison to GTX 560 Ti and overclock worse. They scale better in Crossfire though. For an alternative to GTX 570, you can consider a HD 6970 but again it doesn't overclock as well as GTX 570. Also yeah, at ~272€ the EVGA GeForce 570 isn't that bad of a deal as the warranty should be really nice and the stock cooler of GTX 570 isn't too terrible(Still worse than the Palit one). I'm not sure if the power phase system in the normal Palit Dual Fan is the same as in Sonic Platinum? As Sonic Platinum has one of the very best for GTX 570s, which is quite important. If the stock Dual Fan doesn't have it and instead has a weaker one, it's probably worth it going for either Sonic or Sonic Platinum. For the 6970, I'd probably go for this: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p746573_2048MB-PowerColor-Radeon-HD-6970-PCS--Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Retail-.html It's a bit costier than the cheapest versions but that version should be able to overclock above 1Ghz and the cooler's quite good as well. Also if you don't like overclocking it's the most factory-overclocked HD 6970 available. The 6950s on the site are overpriced and so I wouldn't go for any of them, except this: http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p754665_2048MB-Sapphire-Radeon-HD-6950-Toxic-Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Full-Retail-.html The only model with the bios switch. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
We still recommending the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus? I do not give a shit about fan noise. I care about money, and I only want to overclock to the point where I can make use of the unlocked aspect of the CPU, I don't wish to make a longevity versus performance tradeoff. Am I making a good assumption here? Any good deals? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 17 2011 01:32 Medrea wrote: Gonna get a CPU cooler. (i5-2500k) We still recommending the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus? I do not give a shit about fan noise. I care about money, and I only want to overclock to the point where I can make use of the unlocked aspect of the CPU, I don't wish to make a longevity versus performance tradeoff. Am I making a good assumption here? Any good deals? location? | ||
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