EPTAnd will there be ram (with heat spreaders) space issues on an ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA for either the Gaia or 212+?
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
And will there be ram (with heat spreaders) space issues on an ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA for either the Gaia or 212+? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 17 2011 02:58 beefhamburger wrote: And will there be ram (with heat spreaders) space issues on an ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA for either the Gaia or 212+? No. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 17 2011 02:58 beefhamburger wrote: So the Gaia > 212 in terms of noise? I was debating which to get and see the Gaia being only $10 after MIR. But then Medrea said they may not pay out? Is that common for MIRs to not honor them? And will there be ram (with heat spreaders) space issues on an ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA for either the Gaia or 212+? As far as I know the MIR offer is pretty new and it usually takes them a while, so the newegg complainers probably just haven't waited enough. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On November 17 2011 02:58 beefhamburger wrote: So the Gaia > 212 in terms of noise? I was debating which to get and see the Gaia being only $10 after MIR. Yes, it's definitely quieter. This is just one source (and btw to others who bash Tom's: give some legitimate reasons or BeQuiet) Compare the 2, the gaia is on the 1st and the 212+ is on the 2nd with the same setup. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-cooler-heatsink-roundup,2788-10.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lga-1156-heatsink,2535-15.html | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Keep in mind that noise is a function of the fan control you set, among other things. CM Hyper 212+ fan goes up to 2000 rpm while the Xigmatek Gaia fan goes up to 1500 rpm max, and they're not extraordinarily different designs on significantly different heatsinks, so of course the 212+ fan is louder when given similar controls. But the results do imply that if you run the Hyper 212+ fan at similar speeds to get similar noise levels, you will get worse performance than the Gaia. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
With data transferred at 64 bits per module DDR3 gives a transfer rate (memory clock rate) × 4 (for bus clock multiplier) × 2 (for data rate) × 64 (number of bits transferred) / 8 (number of bits/byte). I understand the x2 for DDR and x64 as well as the /8 to convert from bits to bytes, but why do you multiple by 4? What exactly is the bus clock multiplier? edit: nvm, I think I've got it. DDR3 just has a x4 multiplier of its base memory clock rate just the way a CPU has a multiplier x 100ish MHz or whatever it is to get the actual effective clock rate advertised, no? When you go from 1333MHz to 1600MHz etc the base memory clock is just being increased, while the clock multiplier always stays at x4? | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Kieru
United States10 Posts
What is your budget? About $800 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming and light photoshopping What is your upgrade cycle? Not for the next couple years When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Nope Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Most likely not Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly newegg.com So far for my computer I’ve been looking at CPU: Intel core i5 2400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 HSF: Cooler master hyper 212 plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500 gb (this comes with a free cd drive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 Memory Ram: Kingston hyperX blue 8 gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231 Motherboard: ASROCK Z68 PRO3-M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157252 PSU: cooler master extreme power plus 700w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171054 Graphic card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 This build is about 700 dollars atm. I know I didn’t include a case but I’m still looking for one. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 17 2011 04:23 Kieru wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey, this is my first time building a computer so I need all the help I can get. Thanks in advance. What is your budget? About $800 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming and light photoshopping What is your upgrade cycle? Not for the next couple years When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Nope Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Most likely not Where are you buying your parts from? Mostly newegg.com So far for my computer I’ve been looking at CPU: Intel core i5 2400 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 HSF: Cooler master hyper 212 plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500 gb (this comes with a free cd drive) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 Memory Ram: Kingston hyperX blue 8 gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231 Motherboard: ASROCK Z68 PRO3-M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157252 PSU: cooler master extreme power plus 700w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171054 Graphic card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 This build is about 700 dollars atm. I know I didn’t include a case but I’m still looking for one. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. If you're not overclocking, you do not need a Z68 motherboard. Just pick a H61 or H67 motherboard such as the U3S3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 You also do not need an aftermarket heatsink as the provided Intel heatsink will be more than adequate. You also do not need a 700w power supply and Coolermaster is also sort of shit. The Antec Neo Eco 520C for $40 (w/ promo code EMCJJJE44, ends 11/21 would be the best choice for new configurations that won't be overclocking or doing SLI/CrossfireX right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030 For memory, these are less expensive and are better (even if you can't use them at its rated speed with the H61 or H67 motherboard though you don't have to worry about this because the difference is negligible): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 | ||
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Kieru
United States10 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Seagate Barracuda 500GB for $90: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468 DVD Burner for $17: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282 As for case, the Bitfenix Shinobi for $60 is a good option: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1363 If you want something less expensive than the HAF 912 for $50 is another good option: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1282 NCIX Orders over $50 and under 200lb will be shipped for free. | ||
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Kieru
United States10 Posts
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Cases (Computer Cases - ATX Form)-_-NZXT-_-11146075&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID= | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Way better than Source 210. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On November 17 2011 04:56 Shikyo wrote: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&vpn=BFC-MRC-100-KKX1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1363 Way better than Source 210. At first glance seems about the same, what makes it "way" better? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:01 Wabbit wrote: At first glance seems about the same, what makes it "way" better? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4913/bitfenix-merc-alpha-how-much-can-39-can/1 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Bitfenix-Merc-Alpha-Case-Review/1413 http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nzxt_source_210/ Basically better features, build quality, and support for larger cards. And looks imo but Merc has black interior, a 2.5" drive bay, supports 320mm graphics cards, almost completely toolless, good cablerouting, good build quality with no sharp edges, interior painted black Especially supporting 320mm cards and being practically toolless and having a 2.5" drive bay are totally sick features for a 40$ case. Also seems to be 2-3 degrees better than NZXT Source 210 in cooling. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:06 Shikyo wrote: Basically better features, build quality, and support for larger cards. And looks imo but Merc has black interior, a 2.5" drive bay, supports 320mm graphics cards, almost completely toolless, good cablerouting, good build quality with no sharp edges, interior painted black Especially supporting 320mm cards and being practically toolless and having a 2.5" drive bay are totally sick features for a 40$ case. Also seems to be 2-3 degrees better than NZXT Source 210 in cooling. Actually both have black interior and the source 210 can also fit up to 330mm GPU if you don't install the 7th hdd that blocks it. Also has cablerouting behind mobo. But it's not like I care about either case. I mean I appreciate your effort and I don't usually question you, and I just asked because I thought you already did the research and knew, but please at least post accurate info  | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
2.5" drive bay, marginally better cooling, better build quality and looks aren't enough? Like if you asked me why I would recommend Fractal Design Core 1000 as the only alternative to BitFenix Merc and you asked me why, what could I say? It has better build quality and imo looks better. It's not like Source 210 is bad, it's totally functional case, but I think it's just not as good. Can Source 210 fit 160mm coolers? | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On November 17 2011 05:28 Shikyo wrote: Those are good features it has, not necessarily comparison. 2.5" drive bay, marginally better cooling, better build quality and looks aren't enough? Like if you asked me why I would recommend Fractal Design Core 1000 as the only alternative to BitFenix Merc and you asked me why, what could I say? It has better build quality and imo looks better. It's not like Source 210 is bad, it's totally functional case, but I think it's just not as good. Can Source 210 fit 160mm coolers? Ah ok, sorry. Yeah, it seems like it can. I misunderstood what you meant. | ||
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